View Poll Results: Do you use flash on any of your websites?

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  • I have never used flash on my websites.

    17 47.22%
  • I have used flash on my websites in the past, but don't now.

    11 30.56%
  • I currently use flash on my websites and plan to stop using it soon.

    2 5.56%
  • I currently use flash on my websites and plan to stop using it eventually.

    3 8.33%
  • I currently use flash on my websites and have no plans to stop using it.

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    Question Do you use flash on any of your websites?

    Universal4 recently posted an article on actions Google is taking to block flash in the following thread: The days are numbered for Flash. With Google's Chrome being such a popular browser, their decision to block sites using flash means there is a good reason for webmasters to stop using it so their sites remain accessible to those who use Chrome.

    Do you currently or have you ever used flash on your websites? If you currently use flash are you likely to stop using it as a result of Google's plans? Do you agree with Google's plans?

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    Have been phasing it out over the last 12 months - as 50%+ of our visitors are from mobile devices.
    Of course with 30,000+ pages there might be the odd flash banner or two - but we are definitely migrating away from it.

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    Nope...no flash.!

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    I have never really used flash except the odd flash image here or there but have always tried to stay away from flash.

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    Always avoided flash banners unless it was the only option.

    Google has been advocating changing Adwords flash ads for a while now.

    Update your Flash ads to HTML5 ads

    Starting in July 2016, you’ll no longer be able to upload display ads built in Flash. And, starting in January 2017, AdWords will stop running display ads in the Flash format. If you use Flash ads in your AdWords campaigns, there are 2 ways to switch to HTML5 ads:

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    you might not use flash for building your website but the majority of igaming affiliates embed flash slots/casino games from operators and many of those are still flash. Will those stop working all together when Google chrome pulls the plug?

    we have been looking for HTML5 slots substitutes to replace the flash games on our sites but even if a free-to-play flash slots game is also available in HTML5 mobile friendly version it is unlikely that it will work well when putting it in an iframe and trying to embed on the desktop version of the website.

    what are your strategies for overcoming embed flash game issues presented by Chrome updates?

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    I wouldn't know for what to even use Flash besides some useless free games but flash never worked smooth on any browser or website and has always been the prog to crash any browser, in my opinion flash is trash
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    useless free games? haha
    you are clearly missing out some great conversions if you haven't implemented embed free games on your affiliate site.

    we have proven on dozens of sites that adding free-to-play casino games increases engagement and visitors are more inclined to click through affiliate links onto your promoted operators and play on for real cash once they tried a demo game for play money on your site.

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    visitors spend more time on site when we place demo versions, also the majority of visitors come back to play again when you have exclusive or popular demos...so why should I stop using it if it helps to improve my traffic and conversion...
    P.S. For example, I removed all demos from one source for 2 weeks and my page views go down from 15k to 3k...then my traffic and positions go down too.. You know what? I put all demos after this "awesome" experiment and I got lost views, positions and traffic=)
    Last edited by AlexTu; 19 May 2016 at 2:15 pm.

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    Quote Originally Posted by petimi View Post
    useless free games? haha
    you are clearly missing out some great conversions if you haven't implemented embed free games on your affiliate site.

    we have proven on dozens of sites that adding free-to-play casino games increases engagement and visitors are more inclined to click through affiliate links onto your promoted operators and play on for real cash once they tried a demo game for play money on your site.
    But what about your mobile visitors? I deleted all (hopefully) free2play games. Because you have no chance to deliver the major brands like NetEnt, Microgaming etc ... in a responsive website. More then 50% of my traffic using phones and pads.

    Additionally, i love traffic on my sites, but the users they playing at casino after leaving my site i love much more

    I try to avoid any kind of flash and iframes.

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    So you can simply remove demos for your mobile version=))

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    Flash banner ads have never appealed to me, but I do have free flash games on my site that I plan on keeping.

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    you can easily detect mobile devices and desktop PCs with scripts. If you use Wordpress it's even easier via plugins and shortcodes so you serve the right game content to the right device.

    many game providers offer pure HTML5 games such as Betsoft and Playson etc. that look and work great on both desktop and mobile/tablet.
    you may need to tweak and compromise for now with a couple of game providers but it won't be long when they convert their most successful flash game titles to mobile supported versions.

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    many of the casinos now have free games on the home page and tracking is suspect at best, imo

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    In the igaming industry the only reason to use flash is to offer free games to your visitors and some banners. But there is a problem that eenzoo already pointed out - your mobile users will not be able to display the games. In my opinion there is also no real value in offering free games because you want to generate high converting traffic and free games wont do the job. Sure there is a chance that free games players will convert to depositors but if you target real money players your convertion rates will be higher. In the beginning I wanted to integrate free games but after thaughts I decided not to...

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    Only use flash when it's served as the only option for a banner although that's now the exception to the rule thankfully.

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    Never used flash banners but do have free games. Actually need to solve it somehow: both for mobile traffic and due to google change.

    What I am mainly worried about is that as usual, most online casinos will respond only after the crush. Most of their games are flash and the conversions and deposits are going to drop. Then it will take most of them a year to readjust. (or 3 years in some cases )

    P.S. Alextu, do you have recommendations on how to show something different for mobile users with WP site?
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    Slowly phasing out flash banners

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    I have never used flash on my websites.

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