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    What are you think about Edward Snowden case?

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    Edward Snowden just told the US people that their own Government had been spying on them, and hiding it. What the Government is doing is wrong, but its doesnt matter, theyre the government they'll just brand Snowden as a traitor, catch him, and sweep it under the rug.

    Nobody will make a stand! Everyone will forget about it a week after hes caught, and the Government will have a lot more free time and resources to spy on you again

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    It didn't realy surprised me that the US Gouvernement is spying on the whole world thru Facebook, Google etc. What did surprise me was that Facebook, Google and others just let them do it on their company servers.

    But what Snowden did was good. Tell the people the truth. The gouvernement is still elected by the people, so people should know what they do.

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    I dont think that surprises me at all, no doubt google will be selling on info/services to authorities across the globe, just like Facebook does.

    its the 21st century where humans are saleable commodity.
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    I agree with Chris hedges comments; free press is important and the way the government is handling this issue gives the impression that nobody really should point out any wrong doings.

    Not only in America politicians do whatever they want, if we knew what they are doing behind the public’s back, then we would all be shocked.

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    What the US is doing here is most definitely wrong and I wonder sometimes who actually controls the US, the President or the CIA?

    But that said I would also like to point out that all countries, with the capability to do so, spy on their own countrymen and where possible foreign countries. Take this news article from the Mail & Guardian in South Africa: Spy wars: South Africa is not innocent.

    The US is trying to lable Snowden a traitor when in actual fact he is a whistle-blower. If anything, secretly spying on your own citizens is traitorous.
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    I agree that Snowden is a whistle blower, and he should be protected because of it, but likely will not be.

    It is also fairly obvious that the US is certainly not the only country that spies on it's citizens as well as other countries, although we probably have better resources to do so then some other countries.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat View Post
    What are you think about Edward Snowden case?
    Without your fellow-countryman Stanislaw Petrow you would have had no opportunity to ask this question today and nobody exist to give a response.

    Petrow was one of the greatest heros of the Cold War, and the most important spy ever was the Polish colonel Ryszard Kuklinski.

    Without these guys there would have been a nuclear war.

    Now the Cold War is over.

    Snowden revealed the attempt to achieve not only the military autocracy after the Cold War.

    The European Union governments are afraid for the United States.
    Vienna speaks for itself.
    What happened to Mr. Morales is a shame!

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    Snowden's heart is in the right place, but a single person going up against world governments probably is not a good idea.
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    Snowden's e-mail provider shuts down amid court battle

    A pro-privacy e-mail service long used by NSA leaker Edward Snowden abruptly shut down Thursday, blaming a secret U.S. court battle it has been fighting for six weeks — one that it seems to be losing so far.

    Read full article: http://edition.cnn.com/2013/08/09/te...-email-lavabit



    German companies to automatically encrypt emails


    Two of Germany's biggest Internet service providers said Friday they will start encrypting customers' emails by default in response to user concerns about online snooping after reports that the U.S. National Security Agency monitors international electronic communications. [...] Germans are deeply unsettled by the latest reports on the potential interception of communication data [...]

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    There's no surprise that the US government spies... I think its totally wrong, but need to be realistic... probably all countries with resources do.

    I think he did the right thing to uncover it... and sadly he will pay a high price for it.

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    +++ Breaking News +++

    MEPs call for suspension of EU-US bank data deal in response to NSA snooping


    The EU should suspend its Terrorist Finance Tracking Program (TFTP) agreement with the US in response to the US National Security Agency's alleged tapping of EU citizens' bank data held by the Belgian company SWIFT, says a non-binding resolution voted by Parliament on Wednesday.

    Read more: http://www.europarl.europa.eu/news/e...o-NSA-snooping



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    NSA Allegedly Spied on Merkel's Cell Phone for Over a Decade

    Hoo boy, this one's going to be difficult to explain. A new document leaked to Der Spiegel by former NSA contractor Edward Snowden indicates the NSA had taps on German chancellor Angela Merkel's phone for over a decade.

    Read more: http://www.theatlanticwire.com/globa...-decade/70972/

    "spied on [...] German chancellor Angela Merkel [...] for over a decade"

    German chancellor Angela Merkel says "Friends don't spy on friends".

    And she's right!

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    Edward Snowden got a job in Russia. Presumably, it will work in vk.com - the largest Russia & CIS Countries Social Network.

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    NSA tracking cellphone locations worldwide, Snowden documents show

    The National Security Agency is gathering nearly 5 billion records a day on the whereabouts of cellphones around the world, according to top-secret documents and interviews with U.S. intelligence officials, enabling the agency to track the movements of individuals — and map their relationships — in ways that would have been previously unimaginable.

    Read more:http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/...fac_story.html

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    Infrared images show conspicuous heat sources in the top of the U.S. Embassy in Berlin.
    NSA documents shows, that the elite unit "Special Collection Service" (SCS) is operating in Berlin.
    This can be the way they spied on Merkel, our free and democratic elected Federal Chancellor, and her cell phone for over a decade.



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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixian View Post
    What the US is doing here is most definitely wrong and I wonder sometimes who actually controls the US, the President or the CIA?
    The president is just a puppet, I think its the federal reserve that controls the US.
    Have any of you ever watched Zeitgeist ? You can also watch them on youtube in sizeable chunks. The one of religion , politics and money is great (unless you are very religious - if so, don't watch it).

    If you like this stuff, Wikileaks etc I can recommend more
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    Snowden's public Russian refugee document:



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    Former special forces Pentagon official: "I would love to put a bullet in his head.
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    "I would love to put a bullet in his head."

    Violence fantasies in a bizarre juxtaposition to his explicit despotism.

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    Whistleblowing for Dummies

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