Go Daddy Dedicated Servers

[Topboss]

I have raised this question on the freshman forum as I feel like a newbie asking this .....
I have a lot of websites which I am trying to split up amongst many different servers. I currently have dedicated servers in Germany, JHB, Cape Town and the States and am happy with my existing facilities, but I am considering moving some of my sites off my JHB and CT servers to Go Daddy, purely to have another set of IP's. Go Daddy is one of the options that has come up as they have reasonable monthly pricing, but I have a few questions I am hoping GPWA members can help me with:
Does anyone have any experience with Go Daddy dedicated servers?
What is the difference between a Virtual Dedicated Server and a Dedicated server? ( they don't explain it in layman terms )
Does Go Daddy accept casino portals?
Is their service any good?

[baldidiot]

From what I understand a virtual server relates to a dedicated set of resources on a server, rather than the whole server itself. They're usually split into nodes, and each node gives you X amount of processing power, ram, bandwidth etc..

So your site should be unaffected by anything else happening on that same server. The benefit, other than the cheaper cost, is the ability to scale your site up and down as needed - adding nodes as you get more traffic. Some places even do this automatically.

Does that sound about right?

I haven't actually used any virtual servers yet, but I am planning on buying one soon.

[Topboss]

Thanks for this info, so would I be correct in saying that in essence it is a shared server but you have your own little section on it.... or am I way off the mark?

[GFPC]

Good question TopBoss. I spoke to them around 3-4 months ago asking something similar. I am having a similar request. I would like separate IP addresses as well.

I think I may call them back again. Would you like me to ask them some questions? Like a list of questions? And report back?

I have a toll free number so it would be easy for me to call. Maybe for you as well but just in case i thought i would offer.

[Topboss]

Thanks Steve, If you do happen to speak to them, I would be very grateful if you could just ask them the questions I have raised above.
I actually did try them yesterday but I don't think their toll free number works from South Africa...

[GFPC]

Thanks Steve, If you do happen to speak to them, I would be very grateful if you could just ask them the questions I have raised above.
I actually did try them yesterday but I don't think their toll free number works from South Africa...

OK will do!! Give me a couple days. I will see what I can dig up. If by chance I do not report back say by Monday throw me a PM. I am getting forgetful in my young age.. LOL

xo

[universal4]

A virtual server, or virtual private server is basically what has been explained by baldidiot.

Let me explain further and try to keep it in easy to understand terms....

A VPS is a server install that runs in a virtual environment (almost always VMWare) on a piece of equipment or in a cloud environment that shares multiple pieces of equipment.

VMWare actually keeps all resources of the environments they host completly seperate from each other. It is actually a normal occurrence for a Linux and a Windows install to sit on the same piece of equipment running side-by-side within vmware since each server is "virtually"a seperate server and treated as such and only vmware and it's management tools see it as anything other than a seperate server.

A VPS itself should by definition never be shared with more than one client, although there could in fact be more than one VPS on a single server.

When a client is given access to a VPS they have access to all resources they should need in a similar fashion as they would a dedicated server.

Many hosts can offer a VPS for a lower price than a dedicated solution since they can rent a single server out more than once if multiple VPS's share a single piece of equipment.

Since the VPS runs in a virtual environment that is unaffected by other VPS's on the same server, even when the vps is rebooted only the vps experiences the 2 to 3 minutes of downtime and only a reboot of the "host" environment changes that.

The drawbacks can be if a vps on the same server suddenly experiences extreme traffic loads and eats up high amonts of bandwith or if there were an application with a problem that suddenly ate up all available memory or server overhead then the other vps's on that servcer could be slowed down.

If or when that would ever happen, the offending individual which caused the problem should be forced to a dedicated server in order not to affect other vps clients in the future.

For specifics of how GoDaddy or any other host treats a vps you should direct specific questions to that host. Maybe some of the above info will help you define the questions more thoroughly.

Rick
Universal4

For the other techs out there, yes I did take a little creative license in my explanation above but only did so in an effort to explain it in easier to understand terms.

[livecasino]

I am at Godaddy and went from a shared to a VDS then a to a DED all i n one years time. I was looking for faster uploads. I was disapointed in the VDS. I had some slow uploads in certain times of the day with the VDS. I have way too many graphics and am cutting them back. But in any case i would like to give the visitors more for their money. I need more power to do that. I am now going from a DED economy with 2G ram and a Single to the UK (closer to my market) and looking for a 4GB ram with a Quad (if I can afford it) at 100Mbgs. I hope that will give me the upload speed I dream about.

I think the big thing at Godaddy is to get you on a DED with ASSISTANCE. The assisted server cost more money. Thes eguys owrk on commision and although I lke their Co....well! if your not accustomed to DED Servers and migrations then just get the assisted program for the Min 3 months. DED's fly on there own so unless you are really complicated you don't need much help after you get her up and going. There is always assistance by the hour latter on for about 100$ . Migration will cost you one hours time.

I have Skype and call them internationally when ever.

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[Topboss]

Thanks for this info LiveCasino. Its very helpful

[Topboss]

Thanks Rick
I was hoping you would respond too. between you and Baldidiot I now know what a virtual server is - Thanks very much. It is a great help!!

[DaftDog]

I have a two sites at TMD hosting on shared servers. I must say their customer service is a lot superior compared to GoDaddy and a lot faster too. GoDaddy offer you the basic service at a discounted rate but then charge you for all the extras. On a shared server account, at GoDaddy, you only get like 1MB webmail account and if you want a POP3 account it's an extra cost.

I would not recommend GoDaddy at all.

[livecasino]

I would not recommend GoDaddy at all.

I second that.

David

[livecasino]

Universal,
You seam very well informed.
I have been looking to get a faster upload Server in the UK. I was hoping to get some advice as to which specification to look for that will give me the fastest uploading speed for the least cost. As far as I see there are a few things that are related to speed:

1. GB of Rams
2. Core
3. Mbps connection speeds

When I am shopping which is more important.
I believe I could find a

1. 2 to 4 Gb ram
2. duo or quad Core
3. 60 to 100Mbps connection speed

Within these ranges the fastest would be:

1. 4GB Ram,
2. Quad core with
3. 100 Mpbs connection speed.

But if I could not get all of these in my price range of 120$/ month which of the specs should I keep. Which is more important for upload speed?

I hope I am not speaking out of topic here. Perhaps topboss would be interested when he goes shopping as well.

Regards
David

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[universal4]

livecasino,

The amount of ram in the server has very little to do with upload speed... (within reason)

A 100 meg network card will not perform much faster with 4 gig's of ram then if it had 2 gigs of ram.

It has more to do with the nic itself, the switch it's plugged in to, the route taken once in the noc, number of hops etc....etc....etc....

You ask about upload speed, in reality upload speed is how fast you can push stuff up to the server when in reality you want the best "outgoing" speed the host can provide, and a server that is powerful enough to handle the amount of traffic you throw at it.

If you are using a dedicated server, and you are experiencing delays or what you feel is lower performance then what you think you should be seeing, you have to take a look at the total amount of traffic the server is handling and determine if you have too many sites doing a high volume of traffic to make sure it isn't overloaded. (my guess is it is NOT due to overload)

Also, what many gambling webmasters fail to consider, is the type of sites their dedicated servers may host. If the server also hosts a site that is used for downloading and uploading of files (such as torrents, pics, movies or music) then you have to take a serious look at how much bandwith that type of site is utilizing.

A 100 Meg network card will NEVER transfer more than 100 megs...(and the formula to use is to never use more than 80% of the card) but it is rare for ANY server to hit that kind of capacity....

Most servers that follow the kinds of standards you listed above should be able to handle 100 sites even if some of them have a fair amount of traffic.

If you are seeing tremendous slowdowns you may want to look closer at some of the applications being served also.

If you have a very high use of php and databases you need to determine if the db calls are where the bottleneck is, or a php application that is placing a higher load on cpu power or ram resources....

The more applications that a site runs, the lower total number of sites should be placed on a single server.

Another thing to consider is to move databases off of the web server and have all database calls to a server dedicated ONLY to that function.

When that is done, it is recommended that the web server should talk to the database server on a private nic and not on the same class as the public traffic uses.

I do not mean to make any of this more confusing, but it is meant to show that when trying to debug speed issues, there are MANY factors to consider, my first thought is that (it must be hosted at GoDaddy)....lol sorry I couldn't resist....lol

Rick
Universal4

[pgaming]

Making it short and sweet throwing in my 2 cents. I offer no real explanation, other to say stay away from Godaddy. They can tarnish your reputation.

greek39

[jctroy440]

I have four sites with Go Daddy and have had no problems

Their navigation is a pain in the ass but after you learn it, you can get around alright

[universal4]

Well said Peter,

I am now sitting back laughing to myself that your insightful post probably generates more pm's asking....

Hey why did you say that....?



Thanks for the first laugh of the day....

Rick
Universal4

[pgaming]

Well said Peter,

I am now sitting back laughing to myself that your insightful post probably generates more pm's asking....

Hey why did you say that....?



Thanks for the first laugh of the day....

Rick
Universal4

Realized the situation I put myself in after posting my very vague thoughts towards Godaddy. Had no PM's so far lol.

Good to see I still have some sense of humor.

Maybe I will try this...Godaddy is cheap and one gets what they pay for.


Nice to have u around again Rick

greek39

[universal4]

Cheap Bas***** oops.....

Rick
Universal4

[AussieDave]

IMO I don't know why anyone would choose GoDaddy. Bad neighbourhoods - a breeding ground of trouble for the unsuspecting.

Far better shared, VPS and Dedicated hosting out there in safe neighbourhoods people.

As greek said...

Godaddy is cheap and one gets what they pay for.

Cheers



Dave