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    Hello,
    this is my first time on this forum, and I know I'm off topic, but I need your help, and I'll accept if you suggest me the topic where to go and speak about the problem we have.
    My husband Djordje owns company “Limessoft.com” which developed internet sites Freebetting.net and Kladionicar.com, as its Serbian version They were doing the affiliate marketing business, sites were GPWA and CAP approved, but since 23rd February this year Djordje and his partner Dusan are imprisoned under suspicion that they were organizing illegal gambling on mentioned sites. As you know, and as anyone who ever visited these sites could see, this is utter nonsense because gambling was not possible on these sites. But, the thing is that legal system in our country doesn’t know anything about affiliate marketing and since they are uninformed about it, my husband and his partner are imprisoned 8 months now an as the things go, they’ll be kept there for more.
    What I need of you who knew them and who were their affiliates, is to send me (via e-mail) a document from your betting company which will show exact number of active users from Serbia, who were brought to your sites through freebetting.net and kladionicar.com. We need this as soon as possible. Police has confiscated our computers, blocked Djordje’s e-mail address, and this is the only way I could contact you and ask you for help.
    I’d appreciate it very much. Nobody in our country can help us. Sites are on the servers in USA and are not under the jurisdiction of our country, yet Djordje and Dusan are still imprisoned. If you are willing to help it would be of great importance for your partners with whom you had excellent cooperation. I repeat, they were doing ONLY affiliate marketing, they had links toward the worlds biggest gambling portals.
    Our sites are down, our business is failing and your help is much needed.
    I expect to hear from you soon!
    Maja

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    I know that there may be privacy issue and stuff like that, I'm not in that business, and I do not know how exactly the things work within your companies, but I do not need the identities of your active users, only percentage of active users form Serbia.
    Thanks a lot again!
    Marija

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    I tried to contact some people via facebook profile, because I couldn't do it in any other way since I didn't have access to Djordje's or Dusan's maiboxes, but only few saw my message and contact me. If they are on this forum, thanks a lot again!

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    Why I can't post my e-mail?? I'm trying, but sth is blocking me

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    Now I see

    My mail is: marija@limessoft.com

    Anyone who can help, please contact!

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    This is a tough one. I can't see how anyone would contribute this information to an annonymous email. You should get a good attorney to handle this. Your attorney can then request information or collect proof for you.

    What you are asking is for unknown operators to incriminate themselves? you should try to contact these programs individually.

    I wish you well with your case.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LiveCasinoPartners View Post
    This is a tough one. I can't see how anyone would contribute this information to an annonymous email. You should get a good attorney to handle this. Your attorney can then request information or collect proof for you.

    What you are asking is for unknown operators to incriminate themselves? you should try to contact these programs individually.

    I wish you well with your case.

    wow...
    incredible threat..., but maja, when is the trial? Because I don`t see any prove from the police, how can they prove that they where making illegal bets in the sites???
    Nicolas O., Online Casino Expert for Chile

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    Maja - I suggest you contact each Affiliate manager whose contact details are on this site and also post in their forum section asking for help - It might not help because as LivecasinoPartners says they need some proof you are connected to the sites and owners but you never know - If there is anyone not on this site let me know and I will see if I have the contact

    Using Wayback machine I see these companies listed on freebetting.net

    Bet-At-Home
    Bet365
    BWin (BetAndWin)
    BetCris
    BetSafe
    Canbet
    Eurobet
    Expekt
    Gamebookers
    Interwetten
    Ladbrokes
    MyBet
    Paddy Power
    Pinnacle Sports
    William Hill

    And these on Kladionicar.com

    iGB Affiliate - The biggest magazine and events for affiliates in igaming

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    I know this is an old thread but is there any more news on this?

    If a cigarette company advertises on a billboard and then someone dies of smoking would they sue the billboard company - of course not. Affiliates are only in essence advertising billboards but unfortunately many people do not understand that

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    Hi guys,

    I will try to give you more details about whole case. First of all, important thing is that 10 months after Serbian police arrested us, we finally got a chance to defend ourselves on release. We have spent 10 months in Belgrade county jail, and I guess you can imagine that it was not easy to survive there. But there is no use of talking about that now.

    We had two hearings till now. The first one was on Oct 25th when Dusan and me talked about our sites (freebetting.net and kladionicar.com), and we had second one on Dec 20th when 3 witnesses have been talking about the case. As you probably know (you have more about it at http://globalvoicesonline.org/2010/1...without-trial/) the whole process is a joke, but not a funny one, at least not for us and our families. Serbian prosecutors are not very well educated when it comes to Internet (or anything else to be honest) and they are treating affiliate marketing as organizing illegal gambling. I am sure that all of you will say that this is stupid and that it can not be done, but in Serbia everything is possible.

    We have next hearing on Feb 23rd, and will see what will happen next. Our sites are down as Serbian police deleted all files from the server, so all our hard work in last 10 years on creating thousands of pages of content for our visitors have been destroyed. Unfortunately, we have bigger problems at the moment.

    I would like to thank you on your help and your suggestions and kind words during all these months.

    If you have any questions regarding this case, I am willing to answer.

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    Hi Djoca,

    Extremely sorry to read about this, it is shocking that something like this can happen under a 21st century judicial system.

    Although I doubt there is, if you can think of a way that my team can help then don't hesitate to send me an email.

    All the best,
    Dave

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