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    Quote Originally Posted by ocreditor View Post
    I'm joining you here, working with bet365, started working with them since 2009 and still rev-share is there for old players and their affiliate team is the best!
    I emailed jpjgroup too. I'm not signing the new contract. It effectively kicks myself off. They mention lifetime commissions in the new contract and that it is now rescinded, so a good solicitor and got them bang to rights. I will look for one today and see how much it will cost to draft a letter to threaten legal action.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    That is quite **** from LM. I would not expect that from them.

    Big affiliates deliver a lot of players and to keep riding this for years is hard for everyone. They are in even greater risk once they start to underperform than small affiliates.
    Not typically a thing unless the super affiliates overall business completely crashes, as the operators can't afford to;

    A: Alienate future business with a powerful affiliate
    B: Do not want their sites blacklisted in retaliation by an affiliate who ranks for massive keywords

    It happens occasionally but it's very rare, basic business principle - leverage, which is also the reason for the dissatisfaction of the majority of the smaller affiliates, it's understandable why they are aggrieved but it's all down to leverage.

    Even SkyBet supposedly kept a dozen major partners on board out of sight of what else was going on.

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    I just do not agree based on personal experience. As I wrote the biggest affiliate that ever existed was shown door by bewinners.

    A, B make sense, although many big affiliates are just media buyers, who do not rank or blacklist anybody.

    There is also contradictory factor C. 1000 angry small affiliate who are jobless can cause much more negativity than 1 big guy/company, who has limited time.

    Also D: % of drops of media buyers can be even higher than drops of classic affiliates.

    E: media buying can and is done by the bookies itself. They can get to this traffic and it is cheaper for them than through middlemen. But they can not get to the private affiliate websites if they make affiliates upset ever.

    Who knows what happened with Skybet. I was very small with them, they competed with Bet365 and I always felt confident about 365. But Executable for example I think was fairly big at sky.... he is not happy now.

    I of course do not know where the truth is. Just do not think for granted the big affiliates have some extra protection. Expressing that on forum will just cause that the bigger affiliates will not post here and we lose opinions. I admit I did such a mistake once with the big affiliate on my own forum. I admit was my (and his) ego, but the result was that valuable insights were lost.

    The same and much bigger problem IMO is that some subpar affiliate programs were allowed to post here. They occupy the space, they spam my inbox, and the A+ affiliates like bet365 (yes, some will not agree) or bettingpartners are not present.
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