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    Firefox tightens its ad-tracking block credentials, for better privacy and to improve page loading speeds

    Mozilla is to stiffen the privacy controls of its Firefox web browser, and will in future block advertising trackers (ad trackers) by default.Mozilla will start by rolling out a series of initiatives to stop firms tracking the web surfing habits of people to help with their adverts. And by stopping ad trackers, Mozilla also hopes to improve privacy and reduce the loading speeds of web pages.

    https://www.silicon.co.uk/e-marketin...locking-236597


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    Let's hope that sponsors don't solely rely on cookies to track affiliate-referred signups.
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    Quote Originally Posted by sweetbet View Post
    Let's hope that sponsors don't solely rely on cookies to track affiliate-referred signups.
    Hope doesn't pay the bills - we need proper robust solutions.

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    Don't worry nothing bad will happens...maybe nobody understand what Mozilla try to do. Here are no another tracking methods possible... Blocking tracking ads like Twitter and trashbook have nothing to do with a signup cookie... Regards

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progger View Post
    Blocking tracking ads like Twitter and trashbook have nothing to do with a signup cookie... Regards
    Where are you getting this idea from? It's 3rd party tracking that will be blocked by default. A gambling site tracking a users click through to their website is obviously included.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/30/1...ed-ads-cookies

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    Just checked.

    Firefox is 6% of our traffic.

    Can't wait to see the business drop off ;(

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    Quote Originally Posted by GG-US View Post
    Where are you getting this idea from? It's 3rd party tracking that will be blocked by default. A gambling site tracking a users click through to their website is obviously included.

    https://www.theverge.com/2018/8/30/1...ed-ads-cookies
    Tracking...yes...let me repeat it - tracking. A affiliate link don't track until u click on it.
    This are two different pair shoe's.



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    Firefox also only takes up a small percentage of our traffic. Most of it is from the Google Chrome web browser. What a terrible decision on Mozilla's part. It makes no difference to them anyway
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    Quote Originally Posted by Progger View Post
    Tracking...yes...let me repeat it - tracking. A affiliate link don't track until u click on it.
    This are two different pair shoe's.
    It's still a 3rd party tracker....it wont track when they click it now...

    Future versions of Firefox will automatically block tracking codes placed by so-called third parties, advertisers or other firms that are not the website publisher; users won’t need to take any additional action. Firefox already allows users to block tracking altogether, but the feature isn't switched on by default unless you open a "Private Browsing" session. The new features are more granular and switched on by default.
    There is an obvious tracking string in the URL's, it isn't like the browser will track some and not others.

    Quote Originally Posted by vtyunby65 View Post
    What a terrible decision on Mozilla's part. It makes no difference to them anyway.
    They have nothing to LOSE by doing this, the privacy sensitive will probably head back their way a bit. Plus Brave browser is from one of the Mozilla original founders and that has a few million users after only a few months.

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    I have read a another article,but let me try this crap out.



    1.Here are the default settings, the block list is from https://disconnect.me





    2. I try now one from gooners pages and check what is going on.




    3.Bet365 failed...all other works fine + cookie.




    I can only repeat....relex

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    Bet365 is on a lot of lists - thanks to the pop up ads found on pirate movies and tv sites few years ago. Not sure, if they still allow that kind of advertising considering their massive attack on affiliates.

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    Over the next few months, we plan to release a series of features that will put this new approach into practice through three key initiatives:

    Improving page load performance

    Tracking slows down the web. In a study by Ghostery, 55.4% of the total time required to load an average website was spent loading third party trackers. For users on slower networks the effect can be even worse.

    Long page load times are detrimental to every user’s experience on the web. For that reason, we’ve added a new feature in Firefox Nightly that blocks trackers that slow down page loads. We will be testing this feature using a shield study in September. If we find that our approach performs well, we will start blocking slow-loading trackers by default in Firefox 63.

    Removing cross-site tracking

    In the physical world, users wouldn’t expect hundreds of vendors to follow them from store to store, spying on the products they look at or purchase. Users have the same expectations of privacy on the web, and yet in reality, they are tracked wherever they go. Most web browsers fail to help users get the level of privacy they expect and deserve.

    In order to help give users the private web browsing experience they expect and deserve, Firefox will strip cookies and block storage access from third-party tracking content. We’ve already made this available for our Firefox Nightly users to try out, and will be running a shield study to test the experience with some of our beta users in September. We aim to bring this protection to all users in Firefox 65, and will continue to refine our approach to provide the strongest possible protection while preserving a smooth user experience.

    Mitigating harmful practices

    Deceptive practices that invisibly collect identifiable user information or degrade user experience are becoming more common. For example, some trackers fingerprint users — a technique that allows them to invisibly identify users by their device properties, and which users are unable to control. Other sites have deployed cryptomining scripts that silently mine cryptocurrencies on the user’s device. Practices like these make the web a more hostile place to be. Future versions of Firefox will block these practices by default.

    You might get different results once the new releases roll out over the next few months.
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    Looks like this is affecting our website too. I'm not sure how to go about figuring out what exactly is being blocked though...

    Here is just one page that gets the new warning.

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    And here is what happens when I click on a BettingPartners / Ignition Casino link!

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    FML if this starts affecting conversions

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    Quote Originally Posted by Progger View Post
    Tracking...yes...let me repeat it - tracking. A affiliate link don't track until u click on it.
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    Relex...
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    Point in question...


    Here's the rub...On closing Firefox (and all browsers) I delete cookies etc.

    However, that hasn't stopped websites who use google ads, adclicks etc., etc., from throwing up ads for products I've either purchased or associated sites I've visited seeking out said products.

    Reiterating, cookies are deleted on every browser close.... So how the hell are my surfing-habits still being tracked? MAC address, clearly some nefarious and or intrusive means (other than cookies), it seems so.

    I've been using speedtest (dot) org a lot lately. And, they've now started showing these tracked ads. The site can take up to 10 sec to fully load with these invasive ads. Previously, the site loaded in under 3 sec.

    I dare say Firefox's aim is to stop the above invasive ads, and the methods these marketing companies use to track surfing habits, which to me, seems like an invasion of privacy. I highly doubt affiliate links will be affected. Unless of course the gambling site your promoting, is also using marketing companies who employ nefarious tracking methods.

    Heads up warning... A lot of larger gambling sites like Bet365 use adclicks etc., etc.
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    Reiterating, cookies are deleted on every browser close.... So how the hell are my surfing-habits still being tracked? MAC address, clearly some nefarious and or intrusive means (other than cookies), it seems so.

    For sure not a MAC address (or just that). There are other cookies like LSO cookies. There are html storages (which btw bettingpartners already is using to track affiliates and it is working flawlessly during last months).

    There are also complex methods like device fingerprint, that combines a lot of factors like screen resolution, browser, installed system etc. But I do not think this is being used on massive scale. You can see this at some sportsbooks as security measure.
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    Yeah you are almost certainly being tracked through browser fingerprinting. It is in fact used on a massive scale by ad networks. Every request you make to a web server sends a bunch of info about your browser through the request headers. It is then logged and the data is analysed to create a fingerprint. When you take into account stuff like browser version, OS, timezone, language, fonts and plugins installed, accept headers, do not track header (yes, the irony), and various other bits of data it is surprisingly easy to identify individual users. Cookies are irrelevant because they just analyse you on each request over and over again.

    Some browsers are starting to catch on and looking at not sending little used data points to servers to try to reduce the amount of data the ad networks have to assemble a fingerprint.

    Try this site out. It will analyse your browser and tell you whether you are unique in their database.
    https://amiunique.org

    For me... "your full fingerprint is unique among the 868136 collected so far."

    On a positive note, I have used that site a few times and have been unique before. So browser and OS upgrades do have the effect of producing a new fingerprint. Maybe you could get a plugin for your browser that randomises some of that data on every request, or even spoof it with data that is the same for everyone using the plugin, to mess with the fingerprinting code.

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    I would like to know whether the ad networks really use it. In future they will. I just guessed it is not based on my experience with ad networks. Nobody from them ever told me they use it. It is definitely a walk on thin ice. If cookies are breaching someones privacy, then fingerprint is something by orders of magnitude worse. The hunt against cookies might change a lot, because there will be 2 kinds of adnetworks: the rogue and more effective ones and the legal ones, which will be less effective.

    Sadly for me I do not see any ad network paying even close numbers to Google. So I do not think anyone is really good at fingerprinting ads. But I may be wrong and I would like to hear who is using those new methods.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muppet View Post

    Try this site out. It will analyse your browser and tell you whether you are unique in their database.
    https://amiunique.org

    For me... "your full fingerprint is unique among the 868136 collected so far."
    Cool thing. Well, i am not unique. "only
    2 browsers out of the 868203 observed browsers (0.00 %) have exactly the same fingerprint as yours."
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    I tried a different browser that I use rarely
    However, your full fingerprint is unique among the 868210 collected so far.

    To use a site that checks finger print, if they didn't have it before they do after you run the check.

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