My patience is about to run out

**PhilIveysCar** · 6 November 2010, 3:17 pm

Hi guys,

i am also an affiliate of bwin, brought them around 1000 active customers in 2010....and lost in october 50 % of my "normal" earnings, which is (for me) way to much, because i am not (yet) affected of the scandalous 5%-rule.

If there will be no modification in november i will promote them only very restricted.

The launch of bewinners reminds me really of a start-up company, but we are talking about one of the biggest players on the market. Sad!

**EugeneK** · 8 November 2010, 7:06 am

It looks like big companies are enemies for affiliates

**GFPC** · 9 November 2010, 6:51 pm

As it stands yes Bewinners is certainly showing how much they respect the GPWA and affiliates in general. They do not respect or care at all about us.

Its time we go big now - and seriously consider large scale action!

**Anthony** · 10 November 2010, 2:36 pm

I was really hoping for some progress to made by now.

I do believe bewinners genuinely wants to get to a better place, but their actions are not moving us in that direction.

**GFPC** · 10 November 2010, 3:31 pm

I agree. Were basically being treated like fools. Refusal of terms and conditions. ASked to hold off changes will be made. All that stuff 2 weeks ago all in vain.

No intentions of doing right by affiliates.

Originally Posted by Anthony

I was really hoping for some progress to made by now.

I do believe bewinners genuinely wants to get to a better place, but their actions are not moving us in that direction.

**webmacho** · 11 November 2010, 6:55 pm

Wait 5% rule? Does this mean they put all ernings for old customers to 5% or what? Is that so?

**GamTrak** · 11 November 2010, 7:38 pm

Originally Posted by webmacho

Wait 5% rule? Does this mean they put all ernings for old customers to 5% or what? Is that so?

If I'm not mistaken the answer is YES. Your old player revenue percentage drops to 5%.

**GFPC** · 11 November 2010, 7:49 pm

It sure does!! In actual fact you can only consider as theft! Bwin is stealing from affiliates period. They have turned Predatory and Rogue IMO.

I once had allot of respect for Bwin - but they turned into the rotten apple at the bottom of the barrel.

Between ripping off affiliates to hiding terms and conditions - what they stand for now is theft and lack of business ethic.

They became to powerful and like all powerful tyrants they will fall!! Mark my words!!!

To me they are just like Grand Prive in some ways.

Shame on you BWIN

**webmacho** · 12 November 2010, 1:48 am

OMG, this is the biggest fraud in the industry.

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