Power Generation - Magnetic Generators

[universal4]

On the off chance anyone knows about this, has anyone here ever researched or investigated Magnetic Generators?

I have been reading a bit about them but I am sure I have only scratched the surface, but it sure looks promising as form of clean power on smaller scale.

It looks like the payback time for break even on a 10K unit averages around 2 years or less and is one fifth the time frame of solar.

Here is one of the companies I have read about
https://infinitysav.com/magneticgenerator/

I am not sure how practical this is on larger scales, but it does look like they can handle at least some scaling up and most likely will become more efficient with more time and development.

Rick
Universal4

[Sherlock]

I am more interested in hydroenergy.

What you posted above is crazy. I would say it is perpetuum mobile, but you are not stupid, hence I am missing something.

Where do the magnets take the energy from?

[PROFRBcom]

What you posted above is crazy. I would say it is perpetuum mobile, but you are not stupid, hence I am missing something.

Where do the magnets take the energy from?

I was at first thinking that somehow they interacted with Earth gravity in some new way in order to function. Now, after reading more on the website, I discovered that they do not even know how it works:

The problem is not the fundamental laws of physics. The problem has always been engineering. Magnets last a 100 years, and don’t wear down like batteries – they don’t store energy; they’re a quantum mechanical force. We believe magnetism can be harnessed to create an endless supply of clean energy, just as we have already demonstrated with our working prototype. Our generator driven by magnets does work and does produce energy. It will be up to physicists to explain why our generator works. Great inventions don’t appear out of nowhere. They are a series of incremental steps.

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[DanHorvat]

Long story short, it's fake.

[Sherlock]

I stopped reading 2 sentences above you and asked here, because it stopped making sense. Now it makes sense...
Last month one woman that seemed sane in the beginning, tried to convince me how great is to eat hydrogenium.

[PROFRBcom]

I stopped reading 2 sentences above you and asked here, because it stopped making sense. Now it makes sense...
Last month one woman that seemed sane in the beginning, tried to convince me how great is to eat hydrogenium.

I have read about people drinking hydrogen peroxide/hydrogenium. I'll bet it could work for certain conditions, in reasonable quantities. Healing the gut perhaps by killing off some bad things that have taken to living there? Providing H and O for chemical reactions in the body? All of this is because a problem exists already however.

The most healing, and preventative, thing one can actually do is to not eat at all. For a few days a month anyway, though longer fasts of up to and over 30 days could easily be done by most human beings if they tried!

[Sherlock]

The fasting makes sense. Also not eating sugars, even when you are not fat. Sadly I need sugars when working with computer, it starts the brain fast, saves time. Well everything comes at a cost.

For the hydrogen: I did not study it a lot, but I doubt what they eat is hydrogen or that it even releases hydrogen. It were some pills. Probably placebo. Those chemtrail/ezoteric things are like mental cancer. I am trying to stay away even when some are maybe somehow right.

Hydrogen peroxide is H2O2. It is releasing Oxygen and the rest is water. Not the hydrogen. The oxygen is being used to clean things. I would not swallow that ****. Peroxide will first destroy the mouth, tongue and esophagus. Then it will hit the HCl in your stomach, where is the end of the route. The chemical reaction will release some pure Chlorine. You will be blurping it or it will clean the guts. You know how Chlorine cleans things... I read about people who drink things like NaClO to get the Chlorine for cleaning themselves... Why not to drink H2SO4 and be clean, because then there is a hole in the middle of body. One perfectly sterile hole.

[universal4]

The batteries are used to get the generator started and up to an operating rpm, after that the motor can draw from to generator and capacitors I supposed to get to maximum needed rpm. After that the batteries are then recharged (likely a trickle charge) from power generated.

They do have switches and the system built for connecting to the grid to sell back to the grid during low consumption times and draw from the grid during high consumption when needed.

One of the original prototypes I saw being used and tested actually used standard outside sourced electric to start up.

they are looking for distributors, and in case anyone is wondering, this company is in South Korea. Whether any of this can be sustained, or can work over the long term I do not know, but am very intrigued by a system that for 10 grand or so could provide 10k of power for next to zero cost. 10k is not near enough, but the info on their site does say that some tests have been performed and the software can handle 10 chained together and they theorize more.

I am guessing they need more time and funding for more larger scale development. I would love to see Microsoft, Google, Amazon or other large scale data center operator test this. (the largest single expense any data center has is power and cooling, and of course power is part of the cooling piece of the equation) Or maybe Musk/Tesla since they are leading the development edge in battery tech and have expressed an interest in power generation and storage for the home.

Hydroenergy improvements are also very promising for the future as well, but that is much more hard to scale for what would be considered small needs such as datacenters or a small or mid size factory as an example.

Interesting thoughts above so far, and certainly there are more ways to cleaner and cheaper energy now that science and development has less restrictions worldwide for the exchange of thoughts and ideas.

Rick
Universal4

[Sherlock]

So you say it works like a giant battery, where the energy from off peaks are released during peaks. That would make sense, although I am really not so sure that even offpeak energy is next to nothing (yes sometimes in uk or germany occur even sub zero prices of energy, but that is rare).

So the battery is the moving rotor? And it has to store so much energy? I somehow have a problem to believe in it. If true it would be clearly marketed as such. Have you seen that thing?

[universal4]

No the way I understand the battery does not consistently move the motor, only for startup.

Here is a youtube on one if the early prototypes, you can clearly see they unplug the power source once the rpm's pick up. That prototype does not have a battery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hT1hNAIMk7U

I am not completely sold yet either, but it does at least appear to work.

Rick
Universal4

It does have a few capacitors, but looks like is all, and it appears to put out 50 amps.

[Sherlock]

I am not asking what the battery does. I am asking whether this thing has to work AS a battery? But forget it.

But after I saw the video, geez man, it is a cheap scam. I can not believe my eyes. Now my evening is ruined, because I can not stop think about this bullshit This world is hilarious, we just keep reselling bullshits one to each other.

[TheGooner]

Life fact :
When someone promises something amazing for "almost" nothing on the internet ... you'll generally get nothing for the something you paid.

Once you accept this fact then most of these websites make sense.

[TheGooner]

This is my favourite weird science video - about the E8 object (theorising an 8-dimensional structure of matter) mainly because the presenter looks good and approaches the subject in an off-beat way. I'd have gone to lectures if she was teaching science ...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w0ztlIAYTCU

Also this as a follow up :
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vJi3_znm7ZE

They may be right - there are some elegant facts and potential solutions in their theories that work far better as predictors and models for matter than the absolutely bat-sh!t idea of "string theory" - but we are NEVER going to find out in our lifetimes.

[Sherlock]

Life fact :
When someone promises something amazing for "almost" nothing on the internet ... you'll generally get nothing for the something you paid.

Once you accept this fact then most of these websites make sense.

Exactly.
We can start with our websites.

[Sherlock]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=15V0gUXUPko