Programs Not Allowed at Conferences!

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 3:14 am

Playshare,
Rome,
CPays,

Any Villa Fortuna!

**Shaun O'neill** · 18 September 2009, 3:21 am

Mojo

You can not expect Alex to drop 3 companies from events due to retro changes.

So if you want Alex to take a moral high ground he should not allow any operator that has ever changed there T&C and he should not allow any site that allows US players or players from Turkey, should he also stop black hatters content theifs ect ect.

So events in the future will be very boring with about 6 stands and 20 affiliates......

Come on.

Shaun

Originally Posted by mojo

Playshare,
Rome,
CPays,

Any Villa Fortuna!

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 3:21 am

Is anyone as angry as I am right now?

I will do all I can to make sure rogues are NOT allowed at Conferences!

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 3:24 am

So events in the future will be very boring with about 6 stands and 20 affiliates......

Boring it is! Or else subprograms get your act together because CONFERENCES are the next uneasy feeling.

**Shaun O'neill** · 18 September 2009, 3:25 am

So Mojo should operators that are breaking the US law be allowed at events????

Shaun

Originally Posted by mojo

Boring it is! Or else subprograms get your act together because CONFERENCES are the next uneasy feeling.

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 3:36 am

Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill

So Mojo should operators that are breaking the US law be allowed at events????

Shaun

Yes. Of course.

However, the rogue rip offs should not!! I am going to be very loud on who should go to conferences!

**Shaun O'neill** · 18 September 2009, 4:03 am

Mojo

I am sorry to say but I think you have double standards.

Think aboutthings another way lets say Playshare did not attend Buda they would not have had the chance to sit down with the GPWA or APC i dont see that they would have flown to South Africa to meet them.

I think Alex should allow them to keep comming.

Shaun

Originally Posted by mojo

Yes. Of course.

However, the rogue rip offs should not!! I am going to be very loud on who should go to conferences!

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 4:20 am

Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill

Mojo

I am sorry to say but I think you have double standards.

Think aboutthings another way lets say Playshare did not attend Buda they would not have had the chance to sit down with the GPWA or APC i dont see that they would have flown to South Africa to meet them.

I think Alex should allow them to keep comming.

Shaun

You know what shaun? I am tired of this. What results did we get from Playshare going to a conference. They still kept my 10K!!!

Look at their response. Just go ahead and KEEP my money. This conference did nothing for affilaites!

Bull!

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 4:22 am

Shaun, if you think what Playshare did was ok, I will not be visiting Nordic!

**Shaun O'neill** · 18 September 2009, 4:26 am

Mojo

Why dont you just calm down for 1 second.

PLease tell when i have stated Playshare's action are okay????

Shaun

Originally Posted by mojo

Shaun, if you think what Playshare did was ok, I will not be visiting Nordic!

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 4:27 am

Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill

Mojo

Why dont you just calm down for 1 second.

PLease tell when i have stated Playshare's action are okay????

Shaun

Sorry, deep breath.

**Shaun O'neill** · 18 September 2009, 4:50 am

Thanks Mojo, I understand you are pissed but do calm down.

Shaun

Originally Posted by mojo

Sorry, deep breath.

**ironman2000** · 18 September 2009, 4:55 am

Up untill now its been a private argument between the both of you.

It will be impossible to prevent companies or individuals from going to the conferences. We can only take heed from what is posted here and then make our own decisions on which companies to promote or take action and not to promote.

Keith

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 4:58 am

Originally Posted by ironman2000

Up untill now its been a private argument between the both of you.

It will be impossible to prevent companies or individuals from going to the conferences.

Keith

I disagree keith. We, as affiliates, have a say in who goes to conferences. You don't want Madoff going to a wall st. conference do you?

**Shaun O'neill** · 18 September 2009, 5:00 am

OK Mojo some of the team from CAP attended the Budapest event should they be allowed to attend?

Shaun

Originally Posted by mojo

I disagree keith. We, as affiliates, have a say in who goes to conferences. You don't want Madoff going to a wall st. conference do you?

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 5:04 am

Not sure what CaP has to do with the current affairs Shaun?

**Shaun O'neill** · 18 September 2009, 5:06 am

Mojo

It has a lot to do with the current situation.

Simple question should the CAP team be allowed to attend events?

Yes or No

Thanks

Shaun

Originally Posted by mojo

Not sure what CaP has to do with the current affairs Shaun?

**mojo** · 18 September 2009, 5:09 am

LOL. I think you are trying to egg me on Shaun. Not biting here.

**alexpratt** · 18 September 2009, 5:28 am

Outright banning is definitely not the way to go in my opinion because as Shaun says you then lose an opportunity to sit down with these guys and talk things through which is exactly what J Todd and Michael did in Budapest. I think we can also all agree that based on pas experiences banning is not a solution that helps anyone

Restricting sponsorship or expo opportunities could be an option - If the operator is genuinely rogue and unethical I would be happy to assist in using the platforms we have for leverage but I will only do this if they are 100% doing something wrong and if I have some solid concrete changes that need to be made rather than simply "they stole my player" etc etc as I need this to be solid and clear.

Another more simple idea is that if programs are AGD certified we could put the logo on their badge and on their stand shell scheme signage really big and in colour.

Mojo - Could you drop me an email (alex AT igamingbusiness.com) or PM me the details of any programs you feel shouldn't be at the conference and why and I will discuss with Michael, J Todd, Casinomeister, AGD etc. about what will be the best way forward as they may well be already in ongoing conversations with them

**AE-Martyn** · 18 September 2009, 7:30 am

Does it make any difference if they are there or not?

Thing is, affiliates have their own mind on who to deal with and who not to deal with. If they are there, simply dont go talk to them.

Another thing on this, if they are banned a large chunk of revenue would be removed which in turn would cause prices to increase, which Alex would not want to do (right Alex?), and attendance would be lowered as a result.

It's already expensive to get to these things when you consider travel and hotels and the rest of it, but the success of the trip all depends on what you make of it.

Mojo, I am not in any way stoking the fire here but if you attend these then the argument would be stronger but my point still stands....don't visit their booth, don't arrange a meet with them and tell your affiliate friends your experiences. Just because they are there doesn't mean you can't avoid them.

If noone visits their booth then I am pretty sure they would get the message in the long run anyway.

Like I say, this is in no way personal here or sticking up for any shady operation, just a few points I thought I would share.

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