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    Playshare,
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    Any Villa Fortuna!

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    You can not expect Alex to drop 3 companies from events due to retro changes.

    So if you want Alex to take a moral high ground he should not allow any operator that has ever changed there T&C and he should not allow any site that allows US players or players from Turkey, should he also stop black hatters content theifs ect ect.

    So events in the future will be very boring with about 6 stands and 20 affiliates......

    Come on.

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    Is anyone as angry as I am right now?

    I will do all I can to make sure rogues are NOT allowed at Conferences!

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    So events in the future will be very boring with about 6 stands and 20 affiliates......
    Boring it is! Or else subprograms get your act together because CONFERENCES are the next uneasy feeling.

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    So Mojo should operators that are breaking the US law be allowed at events????

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    Boring it is! Or else subprograms get your act together because CONFERENCES are the next uneasy feeling.

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    So Mojo should operators that are breaking the US law be allowed at events????

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    Yes. Of course.

    However, the rogue rip offs should not!! I am going to be very loud on who should go to conferences!

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    I am sorry to say but I think you have double standards.

    Think aboutthings another way lets say Playshare did not attend Buda they would not have had the chance to sit down with the GPWA or APC i dont see that they would have flown to South Africa to meet them.

    I think Alex should allow them to keep comming.

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    Yes. Of course.

    However, the rogue rip offs should not!! I am going to be very loud on who should go to conferences!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill View Post
    Mojo

    I am sorry to say but I think you have double standards.

    Think aboutthings another way lets say Playshare did not attend Buda they would not have had the chance to sit down with the GPWA or APC i dont see that they would have flown to South Africa to meet them.

    I think Alex should allow them to keep comming.

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    You know what shaun? I am tired of this. What results did we get from Playshare going to a conference. They still kept my 10K!!!

    Look at their response. Just go ahead and KEEP my money. This conference did nothing for affilaites!

    Bull!

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    Shaun, if you think what Playshare did was ok, I will not be visiting Nordic!

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    Why dont you just calm down for 1 second.

    PLease tell when i have stated Playshare's action are okay????

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    Shaun, if you think what Playshare did was ok, I will not be visiting Nordic!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaun O'neill View Post
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    Why dont you just calm down for 1 second.

    PLease tell when i have stated Playshare's action are okay????

    Shaun
    Sorry, deep breath.

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    Thanks Mojo, I understand you are pissed but do calm down.

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    Sorry, deep breath.

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    Up untill now its been a private argument between the both of you.

    It will be impossible to prevent companies or individuals from going to the conferences. We can only take heed from what is posted here and then make our own decisions on which companies to promote or take action and not to promote.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ironman2000 View Post
    Up untill now its been a private argument between the both of you.

    It will be impossible to prevent companies or individuals from going to the conferences.

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    I disagree keith. We, as affiliates, have a say in who goes to conferences. You don't want Madoff going to a wall st. conference do you?

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    OK Mojo some of the team from CAP attended the Budapest event should they be allowed to attend?


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    I disagree keith. We, as affiliates, have a say in who goes to conferences. You don't want Madoff going to a wall st. conference do you?

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    Not sure what CaP has to do with the current affairs Shaun?

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    Mojo

    It has a lot to do with the current situation.

    Simple question should the CAP team be allowed to attend events?

    Yes or No

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    Not sure what CaP has to do with the current affairs Shaun?

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    LOL. I think you are trying to egg me on Shaun. Not biting here.

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    Outright banning is definitely not the way to go in my opinion because as Shaun says you then lose an opportunity to sit down with these guys and talk things through which is exactly what J Todd and Michael did in Budapest. I think we can also all agree that based on pas experiences banning is not a solution that helps anyone

    Restricting sponsorship or expo opportunities could be an option - If the operator is genuinely rogue and unethical I would be happy to assist in using the platforms we have for leverage but I will only do this if they are 100% doing something wrong and if I have some solid concrete changes that need to be made rather than simply "they stole my player" etc etc as I need this to be solid and clear.

    Another more simple idea is that if programs are AGD certified we could put the logo on their badge and on their stand shell scheme signage really big and in colour.

    Mojo - Could you drop me an email (alex AT igamingbusiness.com) or PM me the details of any programs you feel shouldn't be at the conference and why and I will discuss with Michael, J Todd, Casinomeister, AGD etc. about what will be the best way forward as they may well be already in ongoing conversations with them
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    Does it make any difference if they are there or not?

    Thing is, affiliates have their own mind on who to deal with and who not to deal with. If they are there, simply dont go talk to them.

    Another thing on this, if they are banned a large chunk of revenue would be removed which in turn would cause prices to increase, which Alex would not want to do (right Alex?), and attendance would be lowered as a result.

    It's already expensive to get to these things when you consider travel and hotels and the rest of it, but the success of the trip all depends on what you make of it.

    Mojo, I am not in any way stoking the fire here but if you attend these then the argument would be stronger but my point still stands....don't visit their booth, don't arrange a meet with them and tell your affiliate friends your experiences. Just because they are there doesn't mean you can't avoid them.

    If noone visits their booth then I am pretty sure they would get the message in the long run anyway.

    Like I say, this is in no way personal here or sticking up for any shady operation, just a few points I thought I would share.

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