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    Question questions about this industry

    so are gambling portals == gambling affiliate sites ?

    is this community dedicated towards building of gambling affilaite sites from partypoker and etc ?

    Is this industry oversaturated like porn ?

    Is there still opportunity for the little guys ?

    What kind of traffic is good for gambling ? adult traffic ?

    I come from the adult industry and run a few adult sites, and have programming background.

    Thanks for reading!

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    Hey There,

    Correct portals = gambling affiliate sites

    In terms of your other questions I wouldn't say its over saturated - It is definitely not easy and some keywords (the obvious ones) are extremely competitive. My advice is go after a niche in the traditional gambling such as a specific slot or type of slot, approach it from a different angle e.g. what the poker training sites have done, or go after one of the newer games /genres such as Rummy or dominoes and become the best at that. There are also a large number of long tail key words that can deliver extremely good revenue.

    With regards to Adult taffic, this has been mentioned a few times in various forums and tyhe general consensus is that the traffic doesn't really cross over - They are certainly a smilar demographic but the user is involved in a different thouht process if they are looking for porn or looking for gamble, you aren't normally looking for one and then switch to the other I say normally

    There is a lot of help here so ask away and look around - Your background will definitely help you and once you get going you will soon be hooked especially with the levels of revenue in this market
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    Thank you very much for a warm welcome.

    I am glad to be part of this community.

    I also specialized in web scraping, web automation, building search engines. would these type of things be of any use in this industry ? ex) liquidity pool for spread bets

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    web scraping
    The above equals stealing content.

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    May I jump on a soap box to say this:

    This most common mistake, in my opinion, is not doing enough research on who you will promote. Any program you join, look to see how is active, see who pays late etc etc.

    I feel so bad when I see some one join this industry and then not get paid.

    You will names, like Renee. Shawn O'Neil, etc etc pop up all the time. These are really good people.

    Unlike many, I feel this industry has some GREAT companies to work for. So skip the looser scumbags out there, don't take chances, work for the good guys. Help us turn around the impression of the industry.

    Being I have also spent some time in the adult side of things, is tricky to get them to gel. Some folks are good at one and not others. I will get some time later today, and post a few tips for you.

    Good luck
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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    The above equals stealing content.

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    Thank you Rick. Saved me from being the one to say it. I have had enough (too much) drama in my life this week, didn't want another go round with someone.
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    Quote Originally Posted by yuriyuri View Post
    so are gambling portals == gambling affiliate sites ?

    is this community dedicated towards building of gambling affilaite sites from partypoker and etc ?

    Quote Originally Posted by alexpratt View Post
    Correct portals = gambling affiliate sites
    Portals is similar to affiliate sites but I'd say it is slightly broader. Affiliate means a specific revenue model (based on performance) rather than other media-based revenue models such as a flat fee for specific coverage or other coverage-based models such as CPM.

    In the gambling industry many people use affiliate site and portal interchangeably, even applying to webmasters who stick specifically to the media/publisher model rather than the affiliate model, but some people who use the media/publisher model don't identify with the term. Alex's company even recently opened up his conferences' promotional literature to clarify that their free admission applies to online publishers in general (rather than affiliates specifically), and I'm guessing it was for the same reason -- although often used as meaning the same thing, some people are a little more comfortable referring to themselves using the broader term.



    To the second question, whether this is a community dedicated to promoting online gambling -- absolutely! Our aim is to help webmasters learn from one another, grow their businesses, and enter into successful partnership with gambling operators. If you're looking for a place to start in terms of deciding who to promote, I'd recommend checking out our sponsors directory (here) or our search tool aimed at finding partners that fit specific criteria (here).
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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    The above equals stealing content.

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    that's quite interesting. im not going to get into politics here, but I had a good laugh from your ignorance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yuriyuri View Post
    that's quite interesting. im not going to get into politics here, but I had a good laugh from your ignorance.
    Hey buddy, sorry if I also seem ignorant, but rather than insult one of the GPWAs long standing members, could you perhaps explain a little about and give examples on what you refer to as web scraping?

    I'm hoping you are calling something totally different what Rick, Terry and a few of us think you mean.

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    yuriyuri,

    Trust me on ONE THING....

    Your statement above is a number of strikes against you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by yuriyuri View Post
    Thank you very much for a warm welcome.

    I am glad to be part of this community.

    I also specialized in web scraping, web automation, building search engines. would these type of things be of any use in this industry ? ex) liquidity pool for spread bets
    I think you in the wrong area of expertise. Go with the Black Hat Seo people make some phony phishing pages and scam relief donations.

    Sorry but what a joke. I see you come from a programming background like what Unix, linux, cobalt, c, c+, eiffel, php(lol), java(lol), cobal, algol,univac, stimila, basic, what are we talking here. name your code.

    Build search engines too! like those phony malware ones that many believe are useful. Those fake Google ones, like what?

    pgaming/ shaddy
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    thanks for the ideas.

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