Republishing YouTube Videos created by others

[Mrmork.Jarttu84]

this new YouTube copyright tool is very effective it lets you send an email straight to the ppl who are stealing your content and request video removal. Straight away I sent over 150emails and a majority of the cases are now solved

[ukfootie]

Yes definitely not stealing.
YOUTUBE videos are there to be used openly and legally.

[Mrmork.Jarttu84]

there is a thing called Intellectual property. Youtube videos are there for everyone to see and watch not to re-use commercially

[ukfootie]

that sounds fair

[El Padre]

It's not stealing, it's sharing, big difference!

[universal4]

Sharing videos of others is one thing,

Taking videos of others, then republish on your own website and dressing them up as your own in order to exploit their work to your own advantage are two different things.

Rick
Universal4

[Top Domains]

Well I happened to be here today and saw some new action on this topic, so I'm a bit interested again.

People obviously don't all agree, but this is how I view it.

If you're going to embed someone else's video, then you want to go about it with conscience and conscientiousness. Obviously some people don't care about that though, and some would just say it's all wrong period.

So you go about it with this in mind. But even if you don't accept the reality of that then you go about it as if it is true regardless.

So with the above in mind, I would say that while people can be incredibly clueless about many things, especially tech, nonetheless people nowadays are generally aware and savvy enough to realize that if an obviously YouTube based or embedded video appears on your website there's a good chance you have simply embedded it from some other source. They are very familiar with that already.

If you deliberately represent it as being your own, however, then sure that's wrong. And clearly if you do something like edit it without some kind of permission or privilege and present your edited copy.

But merely embedding a video is not necessarily wrong. Furthermore, strictly speaking it's allowed by the platform and those who upload do so under such terms unless they want to disable embedding. But I guess some want to have their cake and eat it to, ie they don't want to disable embedding so they can embed it themselves, but want it to be "verboten" and considered wrong for others. Well, that's what alternative services like Vimeo are for. People who feel this way, however, are certainly not complaining about all the free bandwidth and storage they are helping themselves to from YouTube which expects them to allow embedding if it is enabled.

So if some are really very concerned about this, some of the onus should really be on them too instead of demanding that everyone else let them have their cake and eat it too. What a I mean is, there are some well known ways of addressing this concern; ie, you have some kind of watermark or visible url showing throughout the video, for instance. Then you might even wind up much better off than you were before when people embed it.

But this is all only for people who care about this. No doubt many people are happy to have their videos embedded all over the place, and happy for the potential benefit it can bring, especially if they do have their own info showing.

[DaftDog]

The eyes of the Lord are in every place,
Watching the evil and the good.

Why would you need a some imaginary being to tell you right from wrong? And, by the way, which Lord / Deity are you referring to?

[Mrmork.Jarttu84]

I think embedding videos are all fine. and share it as long as you do not alter it in any way. but if you cut a clip from a video and add it to another content then it is not fine since the context changes.

[Top Domains]

Why would you need a some imaginary being to tell you right from wrong? And, by the way, which Lord / Deity are you referring to?

"But even if you don't accept the reality of that then you go about it as if it is true regardless."

It's extremely tempting (pun intended) since it's a thousand times more interesting and important than the subject of gambling, but I'm not going to get into that debate here. I also doubt most would even want to, and I actually don't have the time lately. But since you did make a comment like that I will leave you with some "truth bombs" to contemplate at your leisure:

"For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse." - Romans 1:20

"The fool has said in his heart, “There is no God.” Proverbs 14:1

I always like to joke and say that it takes a whole lot of faith to be an atheist.

Some have well made statements to the effect that true morality includes when you do the right thing even when (you think) no one is looking.

Oh and PS: in case anyone was wondering, no gambling is not a sin, not intrinsically. It's not even a "vice." It's only evil or not in context on an individual case by case basis, not by itself, though it is certainly extremely prone to evil being easily added to it. So if any have been enjoying the idea of feeling like they were being naughty or walking on the wild side just because of being involved with gambling, I hate to break it to you but you've been deluding yourselves and you'll have to find something else to enable you to feel that way honestly, lol.

[universal4]

Please let's try to keep this thread topic on track and about youtube videos, the re-publishing of such and thoughts and ideads surrounding that topic.

The GPWA is not the place for Theological or religious debates.

Rick
Universal4

[carllindth]

Funny facts for those interested. This thread started from this thread: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/high-pote...le-247024.html. And now I have been contacted by CasinoGrounds to remove all the videos from streamers under their organisation, else they will send their legal team my way

[AussieDave]

I have been contacted by CasinoGrounds to remove all the videos from streamers under their organisation, else they will send their legal team my way

Sounds like a BIG bluff to me...

If you obtained these Vids from YouTube, and they're feed/embedded from YT, then CasinoGrounds needs to contact YouTube, not you.
Until you actually receive a formal cease and desist letter from their lawyer, I'd be telling CasinoGrounds to 'take a loooong walk on a short pier!'.

[ddm]

I think embedding videos are all fine. and share it as long as you do not alter it in any way. but if you cut a clip from a video and add it to another content then it is not fine since the context changes.

^ This, and only this.

[Top Domains]

Without question, depending on exactly what you do it can certainly become a clear case of stealing. But even if not, if someone were to actually ask me to stop embedding their videos, I don't think I would ever say "sorry, tough luck Charlie." I'm pretty sure I would usually just honor their request regardless of whether I really had the right to do it lawfully. For something like gambling, sure. The only way I think I would ever say no is if it were some great important social cause and I felt there was some overriding reason to not honor a request like that. But I doubt even that would occur. Seriously, does anyone really want to refuse if someone actually asks you? If it were a gambling site and someone like Michael or Rick or J. Todd asked you to stop embedding their videos, for instance, do you really want to just thumb your nose at them? The "letter of the law" is one thing, and then there is the real world and relationships and the better part of wisdom and discretion and the Golden Rule and so forth, yes?

[universal4]

Thanks Top, I like the way you said that, and certainly intent is a big portion of the underlying issue here.

I had not stopped to think about it possibly being a viral social issue or the like, but agree in some cases I could see where it might seem more reasonable to decline a remove request in some cases.

Rick
Universal4

[Mrmork.Jarttu84]

Funny facts for those interested. This thread started from this thread: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/high-pote...le-247024.html. And now I have been contacted by CasinoGrounds to remove all the videos from streamers under their organisation, else they will send their legal team my way

having our vids embed that way in your site is fine. totally fair use.

[carllindth]

having our vids embed that way in your site is fine. totally fair use.

Thanks! Btw,me personally really enjoy you videos! Keep up the good work! Btw, can't you use our "Slot Session Generator" in one of your streaming sessions? Would be fun to see it in action https://www.superbigwins.com/slot-session-generator

[AussieDave]

underlying issue here.

How's it an underlying issue, Rick???!!!

Seem the only issue here is, you don't agree with the YouTube T&C's. While that's your prerogative to do so. Fact remains, that every publisher who uploads their video(s) to YouTube, have the readily accessible option, to deny sharing (other parties embedding) their uploaded Video(s).

It's not scraped or stolen content - that's totally different!

I can't believe this topic is still being banged on by some people. It's 2019 and any savvy, clued up webmaster, knows the YT drill.

2 pages in. Surely the GPWA isn't this desperate for posts!

[universal4]

Wrong Dave,

The issue as was stated earlier, was when someone takes someone else's work, republishes on their own website and dresses it up as their own, then it is WRONG.


Rick
Universal4