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    I got this email from Bet Victor.

    We are contacting you with regards to the chosen method of payment on your affiliate account which will no longer be a viable method for receiving affiliate commissions from us in the future.

    As of January 1st 2014 Skrill/Moneybookers will no longer be operating in Canada. Therefore we require you to log into your affiliate account and change your payment method to either Neteller, Bank transfer or BetVictor Player account before December 31st 2013.

    May we remind you that the threshold for payment to Neteller and BetVictor player account is £50 or equivalent, for player account an invoice is also required before payment can be processed. For payment via Bank Transfer the threshold is £500 or equivalent.

    For reasons of security please do NOT respond to this e mail by sending us your payment details.


    Anyone know if this is factual for the Canadian market? Any other programs following?

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    Is it possible to make this thread only viewable to people who are logged in?

    If so, then I will be happy to post here.
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    I do not think it can be restricted while it is in the public area...
    As a private area thread it would automatically require a valid private member login - but then AMs can't see it ?

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    Hmm ...

    Combined with the prospective Europartners pull out of Canada it appears that several organisations believe offering gambling to Canadian residents will not be legal in 2014.

    I cannot find any analysis on impending law changes though ... anyone able to shed some light on what's happening?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    I do not think it can be restricted while it is in the public area...
    As a private area thread it would automatically require a valid private member login - but then AMs can't see it ?
    You could be right about that. I just thought there was a way to make certain forums viewable to logged in members only as I know Casinomeister has that option.
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    Renne I think you can start a thread in your rewards affiliates private member section if you want.

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    I got the same email...
    The email recommended that I use Neteller...
    Now, I haven't used Neteller in a while because I thought THEY TOO don't allow gambling related payments to Canadians...?
    Can anyone clarify this?
    ( I would love to be able to use Neteller again )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Renee View Post
    Is it possible to make this thread only viewable to people who are logged in?
    This will be a nice readers potpourri. They are of three kinds: Private members, public members and now the non logged-in audience, that is not allowed to read all public topics.

    Quote Originally Posted by edgarf76
    Renne I think you can start a thread in your rewards affiliates private member section if you want.
    Exactly!

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    Quote Originally Posted by daweller
    Can anyone clarify this?
    ( I would love to be able to use Neteller again )
    I have no Neteller account but called them a few minutes ago.

    It's easy: http://www.neteller.com/support/

    If you enter for the 12 digit account number the computer voice is asking when you call, 000000000000 then you will redirected to a real person who answer some questions without having an account.

    The lady told me, that people who are living in Canada, are welcome to open an account but it's restricted. The verification process is harder, and you are not allowed to transfer money to online casinos.

    I think, if the 3rd party payment processor of Victors Affiliates is not known as a casino processor then the email from Victors Affiliates ("change your payment method to either Neteller") is right, but for a detailed and correct answer you have to contact your affiliate manager or better two of them.

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    One of my programs sent me similar email this morning.I live in Canada and can't see anything changing here in terms of making it taxable and outlawing online casinos.

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    I too cannot see any changes. I searched made calls went to Ottawa legislative building and found nothing new. I did find this long boring article interesting link below.

    http://dspace.ucalgary.ca/bitstream/...1/4/lipton.pdf

    Neteller or Skrill was never a viable web wallet from my province.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    Hmm ...

    Combined with the prospective Europartners pull out of Canada it appears that several organisations believe offering gambling to Canadian residents will not be legal in 2014.

    I cannot find any analysis on impending law changes though ... anyone able to shed some light on what's happening?
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    I wonder if it has to do with being able to offer services in USA maybe they have to let go of all unregulated markets.Just throwing it out there...

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    Quote Originally Posted by casinobonusguy View Post
    I wonder if it has to do with being able to offer services in USA maybe they have to let go of all unregulated markets.Just throwing it out there...

    I have heard something similar. Some sources say it is all about protecting citizens from fraudulent practices where there is no legal recourse. In this sense regulation maybe around the corner for Canada, however, this would be a provincial matter. So no real answers yet. Personally I doubt much will change.

    No patriot act in Canada lol

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    I'm having problems with wires from MB to canada right now....maybe this is to blame.

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    Won't post complete email from Skrill here but we just got confirmation indeed.
    "effective 2nd January 2014, with outgoing payments (withdrawals) being discontinued from 31stJanuary."
    Last edited by louie.wilson; 11 December 2013 at 9:09 am. Reason: Display issue

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    Quote Originally Posted by daweller View Post
    I got the same email...
    The email recommended that I use Neteller...
    Now, I haven't used Neteller in a while because I thought THEY TOO don't allow gambling related payments to Canadians...?
    Can anyone clarify this?
    ( I would love to be able to use Neteller again )
    You are correct. Neteller do not allow Canadian gambling payments.
    Kristal Camilleri Murison

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    Neteller pulled out years ago and to a point I understand it as they were operating from Canada.Probably same reason every software or Casino with offices in Canada(not on a Indian Reserve) don't accept Canadian players.

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    De : Skrill [mailto:skrill @ news.skrill.com]
    Envoyé : 11 décembre 2013 13:03
    Objet : Changements importants chez Skrill

    Cher(e) ******* ******,

    Nous tenons à vous informer que, suite à une évaluation de ses activités, Skrill a pris la décision de cesser le traitement des paiements liés aux jeux au Canada. Les paiements aux commerces de jeu ne seront plus traités à compter du 2 Janvier, tout versement cessant à partir du 31 Janvier.

    Les commerces ont déjà été avisés de ce changement et nous vous invitons à retirer les fonds que vous possédez encore dans les systèmes marchands avant le 31 Janvier.
    Skrill voudrait vous remercier de votre confiance et espère que vous continuerez à faire usage de ses services à l'exception du jeu.


    Vous pouvez continuer d'utiliser votre porte-monnaie Skrill pour effectuer des paiements en ligne rapides et sûrs, au moyen de votre compte bancaire ou de vos cartes de débit ou de crédit sans avoir à entrer de données sensibles en ligne. Vous pouvez également télécharger et envoyer de l'argent à toute personne disposant d'une adresse électronique.


    Cordialement,
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    Translated from the French email above:
    Nous tenons à vous informer que, suite à une évaluation de ses activités, Skrill a pris la décision de cesser le traitement des paiements liés aux jeux au Canada. Les paiements aux commerces de jeu ne seront plus traités à compter du 2 Janvier, tout versement cessant à partir du 31 Janvier.

    Les commerces ont déjà été avisés de ce changement et nous vous invitons à retirer les fonds que vous possédez encore dans les systèmes marchands avant le 31 Janvier.
    Skrill voudrait vous remercier de votre confiance et espère que vous continuerez à faire usage de ses services à l'exception du jeu.


    Vous pouvez continuer d'utiliser votre porte-monnaie Skrill pour effectuer des paiements en ligne rapides et sûrs, au moyen de votre compte bancaire ou de vos cartes de débit ou de crédit sans avoir à entrer de données sensibles en ligne. Vous pouvez également télécharger et envoyer de l'argent à toute personne disposant d'une adresse électronique.


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    Anyone have ideas how Canadian Affiliates will get commissions? Can some Ams post what their programs plan to do?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GFPC View Post
    Anyone have ideas how Canadian Affiliates will get commissions? Can some Ams post what their programs plan to do?
    I think I've seen Instadebit available at a few programs, that's the only wallet I've used other than Skrill. The only reason I switched to Moneybookers was the fact that Instadebit isn't accepted at all casinos, and even less affy programs pay to it.

    Is there a decent option for us that's already available at most programs? Should we all start pushing them to get Instadebit?

    There are a few advantages to us if we can use Instadebit. When withdrawing money from the wallet to your bank, it comes from a Canadian bank so it's not an international wire transfer. And if they ever pull out of Canada, that would be the end of their business because they only serve Canadians.

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