Spam emails to my specific addresses, im puzzled

**Boris303** · 22 July 2009, 2:59 pm

Hello, i have for years been playing at casinos online, and now im an affiliate and im still confused about this spam thing and the reason is this.

I set up a unique email with each and every site/casino i sign up with, this serves two purposes.

1). Monitor which casino sells/gives away my email address.
2).Allows me to blackhole those unique emails to stop spam hitting my mail box.

Today i received 3 identical emails to my 3 of my email addresses.
The spam says $26 no deposit, and redirects to slotocash and does offer $26 no deposit, the aff id for the spammer is 352501, the email says its from CasinoJack and Email: bonus@vip-bonus.net

The email address that were used to send me this email 3 times are:
alljackpotscasino@my domain.com (email i used to sign up with alljackpots casino)
allslots@my domain.com (email i used to sign up with allslots casino)
INTERTOPSCASINO@my domain.COM (email i used to sign up with intertops casino)

I have only used these email addresses to sign up with those casinos and that's it, so how do these email become available to a spammer targeting casino players?

Your thoughts please, im only highlighting these here, but this has happened to a vast number of my unique signing up email addresses i have used. And up until now i just decided to blackhole those addresses, but it becomes a pain in the ass when you still play at a casino and are recieving spam to the email you used to sign up with.

Do these casino's sell my details? Because they include my real first and last name.

**Chips** · 22 July 2009, 4:37 pm

Looks that way, either that or an email harvester has hit those sites and captured your email address(es).

I gave up trying to battle spam and just click delete or add them to the junk mail filter. Actually got a phone call from gambling wages today trying to recruit me and laid into him for all the spam I get for cool cat casino. Told the fool I would not list their brands as they take no action on spammers.

He did offer to tell the affiliates to not spam me. HAHA, put a band aid on a gaping wound.

Just like junk mail, spam will never go away. Just stick to your guns and refuse to stoop to their (the spammers) levels.

One thing you could do though, is if you have set up seperate emails for each brand, set the brand up on a white list, this way any mail not coming from them is trashed.

**Boris303** · 25 July 2009, 4:56 pm

Thanks for the reply, to date i now have had the exact same email sent to 7 different email addresses all with my first and last name included, so it looks very unlikely be an email harvester.

The 7 email addresses have only been used to sign up with 1 casino establishment each, i never sent an email from the addresses. So in my opinion the only way these idiots are getting my details is by someone offering to buy or sell them from someone.

**matted** · 25 July 2009, 7:28 pm

This is quite strange... I highly doubt all those places (some high quality names) sold your name at the same time...

It's a longshot - but do a thorough check of your computer to ensure there isn't a keylogger or some other backdoor.

**Boris303** · 25 July 2009, 7:59 pm

Im certain my security is ok, but i am aware that casinos do sell their old emails on to others, and i presumed other casinos.
For instance i had an old Ladbrokes account that i hadn't used for about 3 years, the email address was as usual ladbrokes@my domain.com, now for all that time i didn't receive anything via that address from anyone, not even ladbrokes, and then all of a sudden i start receiving emails from Casino Rewards for all of their casinos to that address (ladbrokes@my domain.com), so i just black holed that address as i didn't want the emails from them and im already a member of everyone of their casinos, but registered under a different email address (casinorewards@my domain.com).

Now if Casino Rewards can get my name and email from Ladbrokes, whats stopping a professional spammer doing exactly the same thing and buying them?

Im lucky i have unlimited email addresses, and can use a different one for every place i sign up to, so black holing the addresses is easy for me, if i stopped black holing all those email addresses my mail box would be overwelmed with spam thats for sure.

**matted** · 25 July 2009, 8:46 pm

I used to do the same thing... I set up a catch-all email address, so it was a piece of cake...

And then, the spam to the catchall was so bad I had to shut it off.

**boozaa** · 26 July 2009, 2:58 am

I think i read somewhere that casino's sometimes pass your email details to 3rd party marketing firms so that they can email you about certain promotions with that perticualr casino, (saves the casino all the hassle)
but what happens to your email adresses after that is anyones guess,

I dont know how true that is, but it may explain why your suddenly receiving spam, if the 3rd party has sold or passed your info on.

**casinojack** · 26 July 2009, 10:59 am

Not sure how I missed this thread, but I can tell you,in case you wonder, is not me.

Kep in mind also, another way your email can get out i the most simple of solutions:

Database gets sold,most times without owners knowledge

**boozaa** · 26 July 2009, 11:35 am

Originally Posted by casinojack

Not sure how I missed this thread, but I can tell you,in case you wonder, is not me.

Kep in mind also, another way your email can get out i the most simple of solutions:

Database gets sold,most times without owners knowledge

i also received spam from a casino jack promoting slotocash

"CasinoJack" bonus(at)vip-bonus.net

his aff id is

http\\ wvw.slotocash.com/lp/index300+26.html? id=352501

**casinojack** · 26 July 2009, 1:12 pm

Wow, damn this sucks

Well, Please understand is not me.

I chose casinojack as my handle a long time ago, for seo reasons (first part of casinojackpot)

This is not mow, I'm not an affiliate of this program in any way...

**Boris303** · 26 July 2009, 1:41 pm

Originally Posted by casinojack

Wow, damn this sucks

Well, Please understand is not me.

I chose casinojack as my handle a long time ago, for seo reasons (first part of casinojackpot)

This is not mow, I'm not an affiliate of this program in any way...

Hey, i was aware of you having the same name as the spammer who sent me the emails, but that wasn't the reason for me posting, but i think if it was you (which by the way i don't) i think you would have some front to use the same name you use here. lol

I think your right about the unknown buying and selling of this information, from what im starting to understand about this, there must be some serious money involved for people to sell/buy that kind of information.

**universal4** · 26 July 2009, 1:43 pm

My guess is it is an affiliate that Knows CasinoJack and chose that as a sender so that he would be accused.

Rick
Universal4

**mojo** · 26 July 2009, 2:07 pm

Originally Posted by universal4

My guess is it is an affiliate that Knows CasinoJack and chose that as a sender so that he would be accused.

Rick
Universal4

That would be pretty diabolical. Or perhaps (s)he saw the name around and pulled it out of the hat.

However it happened, I don't believe it's 'our' casinojack for a second.

Pehaps through the aff id we can find out.

**matted** · 26 July 2009, 2:11 pm

Upon checking my spam folder I found the same emails... so I'm getting them too.

At the very least the aff program should be willing to shut down the affiliate account... Just about every aff program SAYS they have zero tolerance when it comes to SPAM.

**Boris303** · 26 July 2009, 2:24 pm

Originally Posted by matted

Upon checking my spam folder I found the same emails... so I'm getting them too.

At the very least the aff program should be willing to shut down the affiliate account... Just about every aff program SAYS they have zero tolerance when it comes to SPAM.

Perhaps we can invite Slotocash to give us their opinion on this?

**casinojack** · 26 July 2009, 2:29 pm

Yeah we cool Boris, just thought i should post it official

I guess i'm flattered they would use my name

**boozaa** · 26 July 2009, 3:42 pm

Originally Posted by Boris303

Perhaps we can invite Slotocash to give us their opinion on this?

I used to report spam and i would get the usual reply from a casino that they have asked the affiliate to take me off there mailing list, which leaves them to spam anyone who doesnt complain, so in the end i didnt bother, it was a battle i wouldnt win, after all the spammers are bringing them customers, im sure they would have a quiet word with the affiliate but thats as far as it goes,

**Boris303** · 26 July 2009, 3:53 pm

Originally Posted by boozaa

I used to report spam and i would get the usual reply from a casino that they have asked the affiliate to take me off there mailing list, which leaves them to spam anyone who doesnt complain, so in the end i didnt bother, it was a battle i wouldnt win, after all the spammers are bringing them customers, im sure they would have a quiet word with the affiliate but thats as far as it goes,

Yeah your right, money talks at the end of the day, they have to spout all that anti spam stuff because everyone else does, but really they couldn't give two hoots, as long as they keep getting players.

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