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    Question Tell me your thoughts?

    I decided to take a browse around google and ran accross this.

    Keyphrase: online+gambling+poker

    xxxwww.78y.net/nph-6.cgi/001000A/http/www.onlinegambling.com

    I am pretty sure we all now this site? But I am wondering who did it?

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    oh my God!!!What should we do? We should report to Google or to tell the owner of xxxonlinegambling.com about this?

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    No reason to tell the owner of onlinegambling.com...

    You can put any sitename you want and it will pull the content down. This is a script only, not content theft.

    I fail to see the reason for the script, but it WILL pull any site if you put that site's URL in.

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    Question

    I realize this is automated script pulling the content. On site all the aff tags are different? but why and who did it? Would this site be classified as a mirror site? Does google look at this as acceptable?


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    This stuff has been around for some time. I have no idea what the purpose of the exercise might be.

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    I agree Dominique this stuff has been around for a long time. The purpose seems quite apparent. Two indentical sites with different aff tags, source, both sites ranking in Google? I have seen this sort of thing before.

    Guess I just want to know how other webmasters feel about it.

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    I didn't realize the aff tags were different - last time I saw one of these they were the same. That is really ****** and I would say that we should cull their afflinks and submit them to every affiliate program they represent.

    Nearly all programs have spam guidelines in their Terms and Conditions now... This would shut down these idiots for good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by kwblue View Post
    I didn't realize the aff tags were different - last time I saw one of these they were the same. That is really ****** and I would say that we should cull their afflinks and submit them to every affiliate program they represent.

    Nearly all programs have spam guidelines in their Terms and Conditions now... This would shut down these idiots for good.
    Couldn't agree more Kwblue.

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    Hi all,

    burn baby burn! this is out and out theft.

    no two ways about it. one thing if the aff links aren't changed ....... another otherwise.
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    Based on the opinions thus far something is just not right. Aksana suggests reporting it to google, Kwblue suggests contacting the programs because accordingly this is considered spam, BB1 this is out and out theft.

    Not speaking gospel here but what if some webmasters are using this tool as a marketing strategy? Or maybe it could be just another scammer? How would this make the one’s amongst feel in respect to both questions.

    Anyone else care to share his or her opinion?

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    Hi All,

    This has just happened to one of our sites.

    These are the three sites that are doing it to us:

    xxxhttp://www.78y.net >> 208.53.138.133
    xxxhttp://www.surfindark.com >> 72.232.194.66
    xxxhttps://securebar.secure-tunnel.com >> 38.119.107.81

    I believe there are hundreds of these sites (too many to list).

    We have been doing some research and found some information at the link xxxhttp://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=288955. It calls this issue "Proxified Versions of Site". It says to block the IP's from accessing your server. It also says you can do a full search to see which sites have proxified yours by searching Google with "yourdomain.com" nph-

    We have blocked the IP's above from accessing our site and we are currently contacting the hosting companies of these sites. As we find the IP addresses, we are going to be continuing to block the IP's from our servers.

    This is early in the game for us and we really do not understand it 100%.

    All of the sites that have proxified ours still have our affiliate tags on them.

    I wonder how many other things our out there that we do not know about that are trying to hurt us?
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    How exactly are they hurting the site owners and what is their reward?

    Does google see them as duplicate content?

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    I suggest that anyone be careful about going to the root site of these places.

    I did a quick search using the above parameters and went to the root of the first one....shortly after getting there an exe attempted to run and access the internet (norton caught it)

    I dug through my temp and got the exe (it's tiny) but I didn't get the html associated with it...After manually cleaning my cache....(I don't like dumping cookies from some places) I may visit again.....

    I know what your gonna say Greek ....yes I saved the exe for you if you want it drop me a line and I'll email it to you zipped....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dominique View Post
    How exactly are they hurting the site owners and what is their reward?

    Does google see them as duplicate content?
    It would be site hijacking to a certain extent. The real problem lies with the fact everything link, content has been duplicated and indexed by google. The google bot cannot distinquish between the two.

    For your site Dominque

    xxxhttp://www.78y.net/nph-6.cgi/001000A...mesandxxxx.com It appears your aff tags have not been changed.

    Universal thanks for thinking about me. Zip that thing up a throw it my way.

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    I took a look at the page Greek listed.

    Yes the tags HAVE been changed.

    Example, on this page
    xxhttp://www.78y.net/nph-6.cgi/001000A/http/www.gamesandcasino.com/tournaments/slots-tournaments.htm#ss the affiliate tag for superslots is xxhttp://www.78y.net/nph-6.cgi/001000A/http/www.superslots.com/=3fc=3d27794&s=3d1001

    and on the actual page at xxhttp://www.gamesandcasino.com/tournaments/slots-tournaments.htm the affiliate tag is xxhttp://www.superslots.com/?c=27794&s=1001

    So although the changes are subtle, they have been changed....

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    Universal I think there is the reward. They highjack the site insert their own aff tags and reap the rewards.

    Thanks Universal I will PM you asap.

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    If I could figure out under what searches these show up I would file complaints with google for every site I can find that does this.

    If you have google searches for your sites that bring any of these up, list them and I'll take care of it.

    What I need is the search result URL and which listing is the problem for each site I complain about.

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    Dom,

    The search is as follows....use it exactly as I type it.

    "gamesandcasino.com" nph-

    Some of what comes up in some searches I have done are link exchanges...although may be questionable...in your case not many came up but many of those that did were suspect...

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    I will do some searches either tonight or tomorrow if it is not too
    late Dominique. In the meantime here some partial information regarding this.

    http://72.14.205.104/search?q=cache:...lnk&cd=2&gl=ca


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    WARNING!

    Like I stated earlier, do NOT visit the home domain of these sites (those doing the bad stuff like the 78y . net domain)as we have found so far what we think toi be a possible bad exe dropped in your temp when visiting...so be warned and be careful.

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