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    Default Top 6 UK bookmakers?

    Hey,

    Please tell me your opinion on the 6 best UK bookmakers, taking into account player retention etc.

    From what I know, Bet365 is definitely number 1?

    Please share your top 6...

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    Bet365 are a great online bookmaker, I personally use Betfair as they do seem to care about retaining your business with regular incentives to keep your account ticking over. Previously bet on Paddypower and they too were decent with offers but let them go over them screwing me over in the casino. A lot of the others seem more geared up to getting new business and don't care about you afterwards very much. Corals tend to have the best sign up offers of the lot although Betfair have some decent promotions too. Struggling to find six that are good in keeping you business though!!!
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    Best what?

    Best conversion rates?

    Best retention rates?

    Best commission structures?

    Best terms?

    It's very hard to pick the 'best' bookmakers, it depends on what you're looking for and of course personal preference!

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    Best overall

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    I couldn't recommend six though I do promote more than that, most of them have serious issues. Bet365 . . after that I begin to struggle.

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    I am thinking of promoting the following:

    Bet365
    Paddy
    Betfair
    Hills
    Corals
    Betfred

    I was stung with the Skybet 5% con, and was also deleted from BetVictor since I never promoted them for 3 months, which lost me almost 100 players, so won't touch either of them with a barge pole.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YerMaw View Post
    I am thinking of promoting the following:

    Bet365
    Paddy
    Betfair
    Hills
    Corals
    Betfred

    I was stung with the Skybet 5% con, and was also deleted from BetVictor since I never promoted them for 3 months, which lost me almost 100 players, so won't touch either of them with a barge pole.
    Will Hill will also drop you to 5% if no referals in 3 months. But I agree with the rest

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    Excellent, thanks for the heads up. Hills are out!

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    Definitely avoid William Hill!

    Ladbrokes are are a good alternative. Market saturation is a problem but my affiliate manager has been great and really supportive despite me being a small affiliate.

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    Quote Originally Posted by YerMaw View Post
    I am thinking of promoting the following:

    Bet365
    Paddy
    Betfair
    Hills
    Corals
    Betfred
    You might want to read this excellent post by TheGooner about deductions before getting too involved with one of those firms (I too have seen the deductions columns when they 'accidentally' appeared):
    https://www.gpwa.org/forum/new-netre...tml#post807858

    Also, no matter how many players I refer to Betfair it makes no money.

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    Your q was about bookies, but now you are asking about affiliates.
    There is no doubt bet365 is nr.1 in both categories, but the places after will be different.
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    Pinnaclesports is not allowed in UK?

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    In terms of player retention then Bet365 are miles ahead of anyone else. Betfair seem to run an honest ship and player retention is ok. These are the only two that I bother working with on a rev share model. I work with a fair few more on a CPA and if your going to take a CPA deal then from my point of view Will Hill are the best by a mile, decent conversion and have paid me on time, no questions asked for the last 18 months.

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    Quote Originally Posted by alin04 View Post
    Pinnaclesports is not allowed in UK?
    no, they are cowards nowadays
    We are all bloodsucking ticks, hungry, devious
    each one latched on to the ass of the previous
    when the last and the first latch on it can be shown
    ass-blood sucked by the first from the last is his own

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    Quote Originally Posted by alin04 View Post
    Pinnaclesports is not allowed in UK?
    Correct. PinnacleSports do not accept UK players - since 1st November 2014.
    They need a proper license (not something on a piece of paper from Curacao) if they are going to accept UK players.

    Pinnaclesports's owners got a big scare after continuing to accept US players either on the quiet or through agents ...
    Rumours of arrest, confiscation of funds and other things were rife :

    And they now follow nearly EVERY North American / European jurisdiction restriction.

    From Their Terms and Conditions ... the following are restricted ...
    // i. the United States of America and its territories;
    // ii. the French Republic and its territories;
    // iii. United Kingdom;
    // iv. Netherlands (including Curacao and other countries and territories that form part of the Kingdom of Netherlands);
    // v. Spain;
    // vi. The German state of Baden-Württemberg;
    // vii. Singapore;
    // viii. Democratic People’s Republic of Korea (North)
    I am not sure why they cannot be bothered to get licensed and serve the UK market?
    Perhaps it's just not profitable to pay the extra taxes / fees given their generally higher odds ?

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    Don't know about 6 UK bookies...

    I found just 3 that are worth promoting heavily:

    Coral - no negative carryover, a HUGE plus for any affiliate, no other decent bookie offers this. Shares casino profits and those can be very good at Coral.

    Bet365 - great, but with negative carryover; a bit scared to take on big bettors and sharps. The casino is wonderful, though, high rollers seem welcomed

    Betfair (the exchange) - "unlimited" bet size, solid company, doesn't care about arbing.


    You want to give your players more options, I suggest adding Bookmaker, 5Dimes and Bovada. All work with UK customers and are not scared to take any size bet from anyone

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    Quote Originally Posted by ogpaper View Post
    Betfair (the exchange) - "unlimited" bet size, solid company, doesn't care about arbing.
    You want to give your players more options, I suggest adding Bookmaker, 5Dimes and Bovada. All work with UK customers and are not scared to take any size bet from anyone

    Betfair only pays for 3 years on exchange. I'd love to know the deductions because there is no way I can make this firm pay.

    5Dimes blocks UK IP addresses (as they don't accept UK) and Bovada has only ever accepted Americans and no other country. Bookmaker are, in my view, crooks.

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    You may be right about 5Dimes, I've seen them peppering La Liga games with banners, I was thinking maybe they lifted restrictions in UK

    Bovada (habit) - I meant Bodog, they are both under Betting Partners, so they will move your traffic accordingly, even if you advertise Bovada.

    Bookmaker - most solid sportsbook, period. I know what kind of bets they take - there is absolutely no reason for them to be crooked.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ogpaper View Post
    You may be right about 5Dimes. I meant Bodog, they are both under Betting Partners, so they will move your traffic accordingly, even if you advertise Bovada.
    Bookmaker - most solid sportsbook, period. I know what kind of bets they take - there is absolutely no reason for them to be crooked.
    5dimes - there's no 'maybe' about it. If you are in the UK now then try going to 5dimes.eu and see how far you get.

    Bookmaker may be fair with players, but they can be wankers with affiliates. Either way they are a poor suggestion for a top 6 UK bookmaker to promote from scratch because of their active players term and they don't appear to take on new affiliates any more.

    Bodog - Don't take UK at all.

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    Pinnacle - it is said they sold it right before the bitcoin era. Pinnacle now is not the bookie as before. I think no bookie now can legally operate on main markets, because yes, the taxes and fees are too high for low margin bookies. I would bet here will start the real bitcoin gambling around the world, because pros and arbers will have a problem to get the low odds.

    I have a feeling Nitrogensports.eu might be the new Pinnacle. They even look a little bit like a Pinnacle. I would like to know more about the bookie.

    US bookies in the UK: it was nonsense to promote them there even when there was no licencing. No Britons will bet at bookie who does not have £ and fractional odds. I suspect even Unibet is not very good in the UK, partly because their fractional odds look retarded when derived from decimal odds.

    The UK market is well developed, the money that flow from bookies into advertisement and the market saturation, are second to none. It is a hard market with huge barriers of entry (deep pockets for marketing are needed). For now we have to stick with the big brands. They know it. So they can afford to steal from us, that is the game. (Bet365 is for me simply a miracle, if I were a Christian, I would pay a mass for them every Sat 3PM).
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