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    Hi guys,

    I'm hoping the GPWA community can help me out with a translation question that I have.

    I'm planning to build to very similar websites on the same topic, one in English and one in my native languages. Naturally, there will be a lot of overlapping content. Thus, I thought it would be a good idea to have content written in English and publish it on the English website, then translate the content and publish the same content on the other site, rather that writing an entirely new article on the same topic for the native language website.

    I just interested in how this can affect SEO? Would the search engines be able to identify that these are "the same" articles in different language? If so, could that potentially harm both sites?

    From an ethical standpoint I would never consider translating content from other websites, but given that both sites are mine, with my content, I figured it would be a cost effective thing to do.

    Do you have any thoughts on this?

    Thanks!

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    I'm not sure about using them on another domain but you can tell Google that the content is the same and translated by using the href lang code.

    Read more here and here.
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    No, they can't detect such things.

    And there is no engine in the world that can.

    What pinkytoe is saying is correct, but that option is used when you have a single site with mutltiple translations and want each translation to be considered "domestic" by Google.

    Interestingly, Google don't use hreflang on the page where they're explaining hreflang is the way to go.

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    Thanks for your responses! To clearify, these sites are two separate websites on different domains, not a translated version on the same site, or sub domain.

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    You can use the hreflang tag to interlink the local version of various websites themselves. i.e. www.randomcasinosite.com, www.randomcasinosite.no, www.randomcasinosite.es, etc.

    You can check how 99designs.com does it, for example. They even have exact 100% copies of their English sites in .com .co.uk .ca .com.au etc. - Just interlink them with the hreflanf tag on every page individually, as stated by the Google guide and you will be fine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastlane View Post
    Hi guys,

    I'm hoping the GPWA community can help me out with a translation question that I have.

    I'm planning to build to very similar websites on the same topic, one in English and one in my native languages. Naturally, there will be a lot of overlapping content. Thus, I thought it would be a good idea to have content written in English and publish it on the English website, then translate the content and publish the same content on the other site, rather that writing an entirely new article on the same topic for the native language website.

    I just interested in how this can affect SEO? Would the search engines be able to identify that these are "the same" articles in different language? If so, could that potentially harm both sites?

    From an ethical standpoint I would never consider translating content from other websites, but given that both sites are mine, with my content, I figured it would be a cost effective thing to do.

    Do you have any thoughts on this?

    Thanks!
    Hello there fastlane, I hope you don't mind me asking why would you want to have a separate site on this when you can have it on one site?

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    Quote Originally Posted by DanHorvat View Post
    No, they can't detect such things.

    And there is no engine in the world that can.
    This basically. Not going into too much detail about theory of translation and such, the source text and translation are not really "the same" text.
    You have nothing to worry about.

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    Quote Originally Posted by sampendleton View Post
    Hello there fastlane, I hope you don't mind me asking why would you want to have a separate site on this when you can have it on one site?
    Yes, absolutely. I have a very strong domain in my native language for this project, that would make no sense for the English site and vice versa. Also, these sites won't be exacly the same, but have a lot of overlapping content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Casino Online Rating View Post
    This basically. Not going into too much detail about theory of translation and such, the source text and translation are not really "the same" text.
    You have nothing to worry about.
    Yeah, thanks. Also, the translation will have to be a bit creative, as the English site will be more general and the native needs to be a bit more specific to that country.

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    As Fastlane said, use hreflang link to Translated page (on another domain) and vice versa, and everything is gonna be alright in terms of Google policies.

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    Do you translate the content by yourself or by software? If you translate by yourself, I guess search engines will not detect that your translation is the same as your original content.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Fastlane View Post
    Would the search engines be able to identify that these are "the same" articles in different language? If so, could that potentially harm both sites?
    I use one article in many different language sites. For google this is 100% ok. Different language - this is means different
    articles from Google point of view. Becouse they contain different symbols, different words, another word order e.t.c.

    But for one exception: Text must be translated by native speaker.If you use automatic translate - this is 100% penalty from google.
    Automatic translated text is usually unreadable.


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    Quote Originally Posted by john08 View Post
    Do you translate the content by yourself or by software? If you translate by yourself, I guess search engines will not detect that your translation is the same as your original content.
    Human translation of course! No Auto-translate crap here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Moonlight Cat View Post
    I use one article in many different language sites. For google this is 100% ok. Different language - this is means different
    articles from Google point of view. Becouse they contain different symbols, different words, another word order e.t.c.

    But for one exception: Text must be translated by native speaker.If you use automatic translate - this is 100% penalty from google.
    Automatic translated text is usually unreadable.


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    Thanks for your post, as mentioned above, I, or another native translator will do the translation, no automated translation. Sadly, I see a lot of this in my language, unreadable content. I suspect many of the sites are owned by foreigners who are unaware, thinking the ordered cheap quality translation.

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    I would also recommend not to write a new article. A translation is totally fine but I would use a professional translation. As said before an automatic translation tool can definitely cause some problems.
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    As per your original question, it's fine to take an English article and translate it. Out of curiosity, what is your native language? Are you interested in more translation work?

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