USA Market - player value

**canaryjohn** · 26 October 2017, 5:46 pm

Yo guys,

I'm not exactly a freshman, however, for the USA market I am.

Recently I've been starting to create a few USA focused projects.

I'm finding a few things immediately.

1.) Competition is insanely low

2.) Player value is extremely high

3.) Most USA facing programs are reluctant to work on RS and instead want to work on high CPA (for reasons above)

Are you USA guys finding the same things?

How do ya'll feel about the Curacao based programs taking US traffic nationally?

Overall it seems like a market on the cusp of being incredible.

I think it's a great place to start focusing now.

And Japan - obvs

**Martyn** · 27 October 2017, 4:51 am

Personally I'd rather work on rev share as it's a fair plan for both parties. You earn more long term and if you're working with the right partners you see that long term value.

If I were allowed I'd let you know who I worked for, but I've already been told off as we're not yet a sponsor of GPWA.

You should take a look at Australia too.

**PromoteCasino** · 27 October 2017, 5:44 am

If I were allowed I'd let you know who I worked for

We all know who you work for Martyn

**Martyn** · 27 October 2017, 6:16 am

Originally Posted by PromoteCasino

We all know who you work for Martyn

Oh yeh, who?

**PromoteCasino** · 27 October 2017, 6:39 am

From what I hear a top bloke

**Jokerman99** · 28 October 2017, 1:57 pm

Yup, bit of a legend.

**mgaming** · 11 January 2019, 3:17 am

Anyone heard about any legal actions vs affiliate site who promotes gambling to US citizens without a license? What are your thoughts regarding the legal point of view of advertising gambling to US citizens?

**Cardy007** · 11 January 2019, 4:26 am

Seems like "playing with matches" targeting american players.

**Mario The Gambler** · 11 January 2019, 8:36 am

Originally Posted by mgaming

Anyone heard about any legal actions vs affiliate site who promotes gambling to US citizens without a license? What are your thoughts regarding the legal point of view of advertising gambling to US citizens?

No. Webmasters have never been sued in the US for placing links or casino / sportsbook / poker banners on their website. But gambling operators (websites that accept bets) ... yes! The list is so long that I can not mention them all.

The legal question in the US is complex but I will try to summarize it simply:

There is no US federal law that prohibits online gambling. UIGEA (a 2006 US federal law) prohibits financial transfers for bets that are already illegal under state laws.

One exception, however: The Wire Act (a federal law) prohibits sports betting on the internet. But only sports betting.

There are also US states that prohibit online gambling. In alphabetical order, here they are:

Illinois
Indiana
Louisiana
Montana
Nevada
Oregon
South Dakota
Washington
Wisconsin

And there are also three American states where online gambling is perfectly legal:

Delaware,
Nevada,
New Jersey

To summarize, if your website does not accept bets (if you're only an affiliate) and if you do not target specifically and blatantly a US state that prohibits gambling online, I do not see why you would worry.

To my knowledge, no affiliate has ever been prosecuted in the United States.

If you want to deepen your knowledge of gambling laws in the USA, I suggest you read the articles by I. Nelson Rose in Casino City Times.

However, I am NOT a lawyer. What I just said is just my opinion. And GPWA forum members are not necessarily all lawyers specialized in gambling... So If you need legal advice, I suggest you pay a lawyer specialized in gambling who can give an advice perfectly adapted to your situation. (Lawyers who are NOT specialized in gambling will give you irrelevant opinions)

Good luck!

**Sherlock** · 11 January 2019, 9:30 am

Originally Posted by Cardy007

Seems like "playing with matches" targeting american players.

Us grey market is the only market for affiliates that has some future. Maybe will be bad as well, but all other markets are just going underwater.
Just at US grey market scams are not the norm.

**sportsbookcop** · 14 January 2019, 10:12 am

IF you have an NJ vendor licence to promote legal casinos/bookies, then keep away from offshore. Otherwise you risk losing the vendor licence:

"According to the DGE, affiliates that are licensed in New Jersey, or future applicants, that promote or market illegal gaming or sports-betting sites that are not licensed by the DGE can be charged with criminal violations under:

NJSA § 5:12-95.26 (offering of internet gaming without approval)
NJSA § 2C:37-2a(2) (a person is guilty of promoting gambling when he or she engages in conduct that materially aids any form of gaming activity)
Affiliates that are licensed and that engage in illegal activity or promote illegal gaming sites may be subject to enforcement actions by the DGE. This may result in revocation of a license or registration and/or the imposition of a fine."

Alternative - run one site with offshore offers and another with legal offers.

**Malikbhai** · 14 January 2019, 10:20 am

Originally Posted by canaryjohn

1.) Competition is insanely low

For a second, I thought you were being sarcastic.

**gil.langelaan** · 14 January 2019, 4:11 pm

Originally Posted by canaryjohn

1.) Competition is insanely low

Is this because online gambling is in the grey area there?

**PROFRBcom** · 14 January 2019, 4:25 pm

Originally Posted by canaryjohn

1.) Competition is insanely low

LMAO, you got them good judging by the fact this has been dredged up over a year later.

**canaryjohn** · 15 January 2019, 6:40 am

Update - competition is not low. It's actually extremely competitive.

Don't promote USA.

LMAO

**Martyn** · 16 January 2019, 11:54 am

Did you change your mind then?

**BestBonusBets** · 17 January 2019, 1:33 am

Can't imagine anywhere where there's money to be made to have low competition

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