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    Default Where will we be in 2008?

    Hi everyone. I know some webmasters have asked me to ask managers where they think the industry will be around this time in 2008. I am wondering what your thoughts are. I will also ask Affiliate Managers to post their thoughts as well.

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    There is a McDonald's about 1 mile down the road from where I now live. They always have vacancies

    Seriously I hope to be here, doing what I am doing. I also believe there are going to be some strong challenges to the UIGEA this year.

    In any industry you have to adapt to change. That is what I plan to continue doing.
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    I think the US government will have to put in place measures to research the viability of legislating online gaming in various forms.

    I don't think we'll see the door opening in 2008 though. This process will take some time. During this period, companies will continue to consolidate and land-based groups will start seeping into the online industry pre-empting the move of the US government to legalise certain forms of online gaming.

    I think the industry is still in for a proper shake up and we'll see less cowboys and more business-oriented people in the industry (hopefully more women). This will most definitely be an interesting few years so buckle up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by simone
    Well I think the US government will have put in place some measures to research the viability of legislating online gaming in all forms.

    I don't think we will see the door opening in 2008 though. This process will take some time. During this period, companies will continue to consolidate and land-based groups will start becoming involved pre-empting the move of the US government to legalise certain areas of online gaming.

    I think the industry is in for a proper shake up and we'll see less and less cowboys and more business-oriented people in the industry. This will most definitely be an interesting few years.
    I agree but I think for a while we are going to see the re emergence of some old cowboys and some new ones,

    With all and sundry pulling out of the US, some peopel are just going to be too tempted to make hay while they can.

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    Well if the current negative trends keep up I will be back programming. I hate the thought of those long boring hours. But then again maybe I will get a paper route instead. Pay isnít all that bad.

    I wouldnít mind doing some freelance Seo work. Seriously what would be my dream job if things donít improve? I have two radio helicopters both fitted with sky cams. My brother in law is in the commercial business. He has been begging me to come work for him. This would be a perfect replacement.

    Kinda just stuck not sure what to do. Stay in the game or pursue other avenues. I really havenít made a dime so realistically I wouldnít be losing much. But wait I would be losing something, all the good people in this industry. This I would surely miss.

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    Well, I have a full time job that I am fortunate to call a career. The American population is aging fast, and need lots of medicines we are busy researching. Talk about a US approved occupation...

    I actually think the industry will be significantly better in 6-12 months. While some may think I am delusional, I dont think courts are going to uphold the Neteller arrests. That will throw legal question back in the industry. Secondly, I think someone in the world will see a HUGE financial opportunity to pick up the financial transactions. With financial processors, it is just about business as usual, right?
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    Before the US situation the industry have had very few major setbacks. I think something good will come out of the US ban and all companies working in the industry will have to step up a couple of levels and this will in the end be great for the end consumer who will get a better product as the competition is increasing.

    Since only a very small percent of the total gaming is today taking place online I see huge opportunities for most of the companies out there. I believe the industry will be more diversified with fewer but stronger real brands. So far there has been a very limited focus on branding. Gnuf among some other brands are some of the very few that actually tries to focus on building a website with a design positioning itself among the other crowd.

    Regarding the affiliate side of this industry I believe customization is key. Affiliate must be able to choose between more options in terms of payments methods, marketing material, statistical reports. Affiliate programs that find helpful tools to let their affiliates get involved in CRM and other value adding activities will have a huge advantage towards their competitors.

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    On a beach i hope - lol

    Seriously though , i agree with what the vast majority have stated . I see a few other things happening . I see further consolidation in other areas besides Casinos . There is the up and coming bingo environment and skill gaming sectors that are becoming a lot more popular .

    I think that a lot of people are tired of the traditional Casino and Poker gaming scenarios and are now looking to play more fun games with more social interaction .

    I do belive that we will start seeing fewer software companies on the Casino front . This US ruling will cause casualties in my opinion.

    All in all it is going to be an exciting vibrant time and i am happy to still be a part of it. The challenges will be there to be met but i think that we will see a continual interest in gaming on the web and that can only be good for us as an industry.

    Have a great day.

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    Hi all, just wanted to add my 2 cents...

    I believe that with a little investigation by the US government and possibly some education on how this bill actually effects the countries own citizens then there will no doubt be changes in the pipeline.

    I cannot see the ban lasting permanently as it negatively affects too many people who either enjoy gambling or rely on it for business/income. from the recent peak in online gaming in the US to the depths that we are in now I believe that this is the start of something better, even if it is more regulated I believe at some point things will get back to some kind of "normality"!

    Timescale on this....no idea?

    I am willing to fight for it as I love my job and this industry.

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    John from 24hPoker passed along his thoughts:

    Consolidation is the keyword here and my guess is as good anyone else's. 2008 isn't really far away and perhaps we will still be going through the phase of companies with similar goals getting together. I donít really see a change of stand in the US which only means that we will be looking to explore new markets and perhaps a few of the points listed below might take place by the same time 2008.

    From a company's perspective, we will see almost all the products being served under one umbrella and also the concept of skins might take priority since local knowledge of the markets will play a very important role, which quite often is hard to reach. Market expansions will also be on the cards and the lessons learnt from the US will only mean that the new markets will be approached with a lot of careful thinking and perhaps some intelligent marketing tactics as well. Payment processors will be one area where a lot of research and development will go in to provide a stable, credible and a strong payment processor.

    What the players will see would be a more focused acquisition & retention strategies which would mean that the usual bonus offers, etc. that now exist will be improvised and as is the case already VIP/Loyalty programs will be much more customer/player focused.

    Affiliate marketing, which has always been a strong support channel to this industry, will get more competitive and perhaps we will see this industry adopt the most up-to-date marketing tools. Payments, which have always been the priority in this industry, will still continue to play a major role, however new and innovative marketing activities will make all the difference.

    Lastly, this industry is never short of excitement and we are known to adapt to the changing circumstances, which only translates to some really exciting and innovate times ahead.

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    There was a conspiracy theory going on a few months ago saying that the land casinos were lobbying for the US bill. It wasn't true.

    However, what I do see happening is the US market being regulated in a few years time. Maybe in 2008 we will see some concrete evidence to that.

    Meantime, we must remember that last year online gaming penetrated only around 8% of Europe - so we all still have a lot to do. And I didn't even mention the far east...

    I agree with Matt that what we will be seeing is consolidations with Land Casinos. We are going to be seeing a lot of Ladbrokes, and I presume the US land casinos will also want their share.

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    My hope is that things will change in the near future that will allow US players to enjoy a pastime that they are passionate about while also allowing the US Gov to get their cut of the action. I mean, that's what it's all about. The US wants to get their hands on the $$$ generated from this industry. It's not about the "gambling" side of things... if that were true there wouldn't be state-sponsored gambling and legal land casinos.

    I see my site in 2008 (probably sooner) being an info only site... no links to casinos at all! Just some info on gambling and casinos, but not much else. Luckily this is a small side-gig for me. I wish all the best though.
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    Well I have to say that my thoughts (and hopes) are that there will be accurate measures taken by the proper authorities to look further into this bill and how it is wrongfully affecting US citizens.

    I do firmly believe that there will be changes...for the better - I don't see it happening too soon but sometime in 2008, although i've been known to be an optimist. There is a lot of gossip and "hear say" about what will happen or what could possibly happen but in the end I think this industry is here to stay. We have to keep our chins high and keep truckin' through this mess.

    There is a light at the end of this tunnel.

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    At this point I've been doing my small part to inform some of the "masses" who are unaware, like posting on political blogs, both dem and repub, stressing how it's an attack on everyone's freedom. And how sneaky and suspicious the whole passing of the legislation was handled.

    May not be much, but it's something. Makes me feel better anyway.

    My next move is sending emails and letters to news sites and newspapers. No one will know unless they are informed. I'll be calling in on CSPAN soon, also.
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    This is an excerpt from the Affiliate Manager Interview with Martin from CostaDelPoker:

    In 2008- where do you see this industry?
    Given the state of affairs right now, I feel that 2008 will be a year to consolidate ones place in the industry and develop new customers in the non traditional markets, such as Eastern Europe, Asia and Africa. We have been very lucky in this as we are currently in the top 5 poker rooms by traffic for Poland and Romania, both massively expanding markets at the moment!

    We also plan to launch another poker brand during the course of 2007, and also we are in negotiations with several software suppliers regarding US market entry as well.
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    This is an excerpt from the Affiliate Manager Interview with Oren from Cpays:

    In February of 2008, where do you think the industry will be?<o></o>
    I hope the <st1:country-region w:st="on"><st1><st1><st1:country-region u1:st="on">US</st1:country-region></st1></st1> </st1:country-region>government will change its mind or make some arraignment with the affiliates and players in this industry. Itís too much money they donít want to loose so Iím hoping for a positive future.<o></o>

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    Quote Originally Posted by Amateur View Post
    My next move is sending emails and letters to news sites and newspapers. No one will know unless they are informed. I'll be calling in on CSPAN soon, also.
    Amateur - I've been tempted so many times to get in with NPR. Actually, NPR would be a great move for APCW to discuss the alignment with the VFW. I have heard quite a handful of stories here and there about online gaming - but it is rare they discuss anything other than poker.

    I haven't done it simply because I dont want to draw any additional attention to my business right now.
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    Default Positive thinking,

    The times over the past 5 years, previews the US low, was kind of euphoria and as long as the big money kept coming everyone was happy.
    We are still licking are wounds after the new US low so I think 2007 will be a though year to all webmasters and affiliate programs and only the strong ones will survive.
    BUT, the new situation in the industry shook us up and forced us to wake up and make the right adjustments.
    Therefore I think the online gambling industry in 2008 will grow slowly but in the right direction. Itís too much money for the governments to loose and they wonít let it slipped out of their fingers that easily.
    Bottom line Ė the world of internet is getting bigger and bigger and the online gambling industry is and will play a major roll in it. Keep believe.

    Best regards,
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    We are all taking a hit right now, but in 2008 we will bounce back
    p.s. thanks Affiliate Reps/Managers for your postings!!

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    I see two matters.

    Regarding regulations I think that the times are accelerating. Too much money in dance and the black market allways there.

    Now, the Neteller's indictment IMO is a clear attempt to discourage any kind of financial products to target the legal US market.
    Depending of how this process finish, there is a lot of expertise in Europe to provide bank instruments to the American gamblers.
    Online gambling is still legal in the US.

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