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    Yikes! what is wrong with this? I found this advertised on http://xxx.seochat.com/. Out of all places I would not expect to find this BS here.

    Here's the link http://xxx.blackhatseotools.com/mbs/...FQ6kWAodaHf-kg

    "New SEO Tool Makes It Super Easy To Capture Top Search Rankings In Potentially Thousands Of Niche Markets... Forget Lifting A Finger Or Paying A Dime To Get Fresh, Relevant Content!"
    No wonder I am so against blogs. There are spam machines. No sense in writing original content with this on the market.

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    I too am shocked to see that seochat is condoning this type of advertisement.

    Further investigation reveals this site has a blackhat forum too.

    xxxhttp://www.blackhatseotools.com/forum/


    Looks like the same A hole who is promoting (owns) the above own this too:

    xxxhttp://www.rssgmai.com/

    Sounds like a serious casino spammer?

    How the f#ck are honest webmasters supposed to compete against these crooks who use this crap



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    Wow! I use SEOChat ALL the time! I'm amazed that they are actually promoting anything blackhat. I always thought of them on the up and up. I think this will just get a lot of users POd.
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    Thumbs up Dave

    Good question Dave, these junkies really drive me nuts. I know few gambling webmasters who actually sell this stuff. I believe one is here at the GPWA, but lacking concrete proof I dare not say. Another has been in this business for years but agreed to actually stop. The are some others, the temptation of greed is their only aim in life.

    I often wonder what they are like outside cyberspace. I would be curious if these degraded morally deficient greed head scam artists would steal from anyone. These are the type of people so self centred they would be hard pressed to save a life. After all doing the right thing is not on the agenda. Their motto “if you have any morals don’t come here”.

    How would one compete? Well there are several ways. Back in October 2006 some three Russians were nabbed and jailed for this kind of conduct. I guess being a little more proactive against this stuff would make a difference. Most just turn a blind eye until it actually affects them. Then its’ “ah my site has been scraped now what?” Report the buggers to the right agencies. Google apparently doesn’t like the buggers nor does the FBI, spamhaus, Zone-h, domain host, server etc…. Believe me after all the hard work is done and you actually catch one of these buggers the reward is well worth the effort.

    In regards to reporting them to the server might work. Spamhaus has a list of non - compliant servers Godaddy happens to be one of them. All too often they have the blinders on.

    I was rather shocked as well seo chat would endorse such a product. I guess they wouldn’t mind me doing some content theft. They have fallen off my list of reputable sites.

    This is huge subject but there are solutions more that what is being mentioned here. But I certainly share your concern.


    BTW Dave this link xxxhttp://www.rssgmai.com/ I find very interesting. Maybe this will give me something to do while our industry is in shambles.

    Here is the one I am currently persuing. Be sure to use the scroll bar, check it out.

    1. online gambling - online gambling resource ... xxxxx - 23k Online Gambling Online gambling site, Online roulette ...
      xxx1858.hard2.info - 21k -

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    Quote Originally Posted by greek39 View Post
    xxxhttp://www.rssgmai.com/ I find very interesting.
    Indeed, quite interesting.

    Scrolling down to the screenshots of casino earnings and clicking through to the larger shot it becomes visible that the stats indicate "Casino Classic." I don't do the stats for the programs we have relationships with so I can't tell whether this is in fact the Rewards Affiliates/Casino Rewards interface. If someone can confirm that this is the interface I'll be happy to follow up with them to make sure they investigate this case. With the revenue data down to the penny for that period of time it may be feasible for them to track down the affiliate whose account information that is. Now the ad is just a hair short of a confession to content theft since it is talking about RSS feeds and they can be used if the reprinting criteria are met, but I suspect if they identify they affiliate and check out the affiliate's sites they is a good chance there is more going on here than simply reprinting freely reprintable materials.

    I've saved a hard copy of this page and the images in case they are removed.

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    Quote Originally Posted by greek39 View Post
    Yikes! what is wrong with this? I found this advertised on http://xxx.seochat.com/. Out of all places I would not expect to find this BS here.

    Here's the link http://xxx.blackhatseotools.com/mbs/...FQ6kWAodaHf-kg



    No wonder I am so against blogs. There are spam machines. No sense in writing original content with this on the market.

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    Greek can you please point out where on seochat.com you find this link. I don't see it anywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CityGuard View Post
    ...visible that the stats indicate "Casino Classic." .... I can't tell whether this is in fact the Rewards Affiliates/Casino Rewards interface.
    Just had a quick IM exchange with Renee and it looks like this is not the stats interface from RA/CR. Reference to "Classic Casino" also comes right after reference in CPA and it looks like it is referring to a type of revenue, so it seems to be referring a revenue type as "classic" rather than referring to the classiccasino.com site. I have a possible lead on whose stat interface that is, but again I don't do the stats for Casino City so I'll have to run it by someone in the morning or have someone reading this thread take a look.
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    Good day Renee the link was located at the bottom right of the front page. It has now been replaced with another advertiser. When it was up it pointed to this site http://xxx.blackhatseotools.com/mbs/...FQ6kWAodaHf-kg.

    If you go there now this add has taken its' place.

    "Web content management, analytics, business blogging, e-mail, and more

    xxx.marqui.com"

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    Quote Originally Posted by greek39 View Post
    Good day Renee the link was located at the bottom right of the front page. It has now been replaced with another advertiser. When it was up it pointed to this site http://xxx.blackhatseotools.com/mbs/...FQ6kWAodaHf-kg.

    If you go there now this add has taken its' place.

    "Web content management, analytics, business blogging, e-mail, and more

    xxx.marqui.com"

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    Hmmmm I see. Well I can't comment because I didn't see it there but if it was there I'm very disappointed in seochat.com

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    Well I saw it, perhaps a screen shot would have helped. I think some members hear saw it as well. I am rather disturbed seochat would run such a add.

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    Yeah I agree. It's disturbing.

    I guess the main thing is that they took it down.
    The other question is how long was it there for.

    If you see anything like this again can you take a screen shot? I always seem to miss out on stuff like this.

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    I sure will Renee. I saw the add on February 23 and casually thought to myself "it figures whats next?". I think the add was up for a good day or so. Maybe a cache version may show up in a couple of days.

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    That program was Referback.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Spearmaster View Post
    That program was Referback.
    I agree an old referback screen shot. Just never know if the screen shot is real or fake? But it is still interesting anyway. A couple of hunches come to mind. Nothing with 100% accurancy which is pretty darn hard to acheive.

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    ...and I got to say I think you guys are way off base - I use and sell RSSGMAI and I can tell you honestly - I don't scrape anything. I use it to run proof of concept traffic studies for future projects - its a really great installer and rssgm is a teriffic program for integrating different affiliates etc

    Also, i think its a little highminded of you to pretend like SEOchat shouldn't advertise a program that, at its worst, makes it easy to create the equivalent of cheap junk mail

    They probably wont put this in their testimonials, but seochat likely has plenty of viewers who make their living making websites in ways that would benefit from RSSGMAI. What in the world is wrong with targeted advertising? I bet many of you depend on it, pay your mortgage because of it..

    I'd post a link to my site but I've found that people like you turn in fake spam reports. well, you have my ip address


    PS this looks like a really informative web site!

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    cant believe it? seo chat I use them all the time take their seo info very seriously. That is unlike them.
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    I have been a reader of seo chat for several years and used to post there quite regulary, until the split on the board a couple of years ago, when the likes of Dazzlin Donna and Randfish left their posts as mods.

    I can say though, it used to always be frequented by some of the more proficient black hat seos, as I am sure it still is. Indeed Mick Sawyer/Earl Grey was a prominent poster on SEOChat prior to starting the black hat forum syndik8.

    Here is a link to Rand's blog on seomoz where he actually debates white vs black hat with EarlGrey

    http://www.seomoz.org/article/white-hat-black-hat

    Anyhow my point is that seochat is an seo forum and all shades of SEO frequent there. DevShed who own the site and forum, probably do not care what is advertised on there, as long as it makes the company money. Which rightly or wrongly an advert for RSSGMAI would do.
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    Wow quite the statement leftsans. There is no need to post your links because I have them already.

    Well if you think RSSGAMI is a good program all the power to you. After all no moral fibre required or intelligence to run this program.

    "this looks like a really informative web site!" With respect to what? I wonder what motivated you to show up here?

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