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    "Q. Is 5Dimes closing permanently for U.S. players? If not, are there plans to come back to the U.S. market and when approximately?
    A. No, we will be back, better than ever and hopefully very soon!"

    Wonder how this effects Affiliates? If they do come back, can we keep our players, start over, or will they even have an affiliate Dept. ?

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    Quote Originally Posted by johns1124 View Post
    "Q. Is 5Dimes closing permanently for U.S. players? If not, are there plans to come back to the U.S. market and when approximately?
    A. No, we will be back, better than ever and hopefully very soon!"
    Wonder how this effects Affiliates? If they do come back, can we keep our players, start over, or will they even have an affiliate Dept. ?
    We can only guess. My guess is they won't be back.

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    A more plausible theory is that the Costa Rican government or the local banks may have given them two weeks to suspend US operations. No more. Which is why they are passing the buck to "third-party administrator" after the time expires.

    5dimes wasn't doing small amounts. Transferring over a billion dollars a month, of gambling money, in and out of the US, isn't easy. No government or bank can take that kind of sustained pressure.

    5dimes is gone, but what is more important is finding an alternative book for whales in the US.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Malikbhai View Post
    5dimes is gone, but what is more important is finding an alternative book for whales in the US.
    That's the question. What book is good for Whales?

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    Thanks. Good article on what is happening.
    Seems to me like the owners of 5dimes decided to divide the assets up.
    The new site for profitable customers.
    Then shop around the database to US bookmakers.

    That would work. Skim off the top 10 or 20 percent of players and then sale the rest.

    I have taken down the links and placed it as a do not recommend.

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    If true, then they did exactly the same thing as Bwin with premium.com (and they stole from affiliates during that even when they told they did not).

    I still have some hope that we will be retagged. If yes, I am good with them.
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    on chat
    after looong delay
    At first we were offering customers to be transferred to BAS but I'm afraid we are no longer offering that.
    ok, i am still the old naive idiot
    but i am getting better
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    Lots on SBR saying they cannot migrate to betanysports. Apparently, BAS stopped taking 5 dimes customers. The thinking is BAS does not trust 5d. It would be interesting to see, from an Aff. stand point. If any of our customers went there. So far, I don't know of one and I had some pretty good bettors in my package. Personally, my account is not being transferred.

    I have another question: Has anyone hears directly from the Affiliate Dept at 5 Dimes since this all broke Monday / Tuesday??
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    Not heard from affiliate department, but wouldn't expect to. What can they say? They have jobs to lose and the chief concern will be themselves.

    My hunch is US authorities are involved in all this. The timings, the short deadlines, the fact it is US only . . . it would make sense of what otherwise seems nonsensical.

    Betanysports may have been a way to scam the authorities' shutdown of 5dimes.

    I had thousands of referrals at 5Dimes. I wont be seeing any of that action again.
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    Lets not forget that William Creighton was killed about a year ago. Could just be that the new owners want to cash in and get out of the business entirely. It doesn't have to involve the US government of anyone else. Just some guys looking to cash in and spend more time with their teenage hookers.

    On the affiliate side. Even if they said they were back in business. Could you really trust them?

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    The main hole in that theory is this is "US only". They also have major history with US authorities confiscating bank accounts. They already had their teeth into them.

    Easiest way to sell is to do just that - sell. They haven't. They are literally closing down.

    Another thought, which may be complete rubbish, is if they need any US help with the murder. You can't run 5Dimes on one hand and ask for US assistance on the other.

    Of course you could never trust them on the affiliate side but that is 100% over. I don't trust any affiliate program. It is more a matter of which you trust more than others. The trust lowered further when the guy was murdered. Things were always likely to unravel at some point as it was one man making all the decisions.

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    Ok this is what I have gathered from Twitter and other media:

    - The US shutdown was a surprise to all the employees.

    - The decision was made by the Costa Rican widow of late Tony.

    - Talk within the company is that she has decided to wind up the business. But, not to set the alarm bells, telling everyone that everything is fine and that the book will keep holding on without the US, and that no one will lose their jobs. This perception is being spread to keep the employees from quitting, or stop working before she gets everything settled on her end.

    - She's done, and apparently no other sportsbook wants to buy off the risk from her. Doesn't make sense either to pay for players that would anyways have no choice but to flee to others in the industy.

    - 5dimes would be shutting down soon. This is now established within the Twittersphere and the leaks from employees.

    - The owners of Betanysports.eu share the same software (don't know the history, probably the guys behind it worked within Tony to develop it in the first place) but the ownership is different.


    The widow has enough money in the bank, and wants a quiet stress-free life for herself without being hounded by the Feds.

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    Good to know.
    All of my customers with them are located in the US.
    Will I still get my commission when if they move to the US?
    I already know the answer to that one.

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    This doesn't make any sense to me.

    Why close your site in all 50 states, only to apply for licenses in a handful of states and maybe operate in a few of them in a few years? I mean, my understanding is that US was by far their main market.

    Even with a "bad actors" clause, it would make more sense to start a separate business if they somehow want to enter regulated states.

    For me it rather sounds that the business just became too big of a hassle for the widow, see the comment from Malikbhai above.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Strider1973 View Post
    This doesn't make any sense to me.

    Why close your site in all 50 states, only to apply for licenses in a handful of states and maybe operate in a few of them in a few years? I mean, my understanding is that US was by far their main market.

    Even with a "bad actors" clause, it would make more sense to start a separate business if they somehow want to enter regulated states.

    For me it rather sounds that the business just became too big of a hassle for the widow, see the comment from Malikbhai above.
    Completely agree. I think the calvinayre article is taking things at face value and believes the lies and spin being put out by 5Dimes as they close the firm down. I think it's the end for 5Dimes, but time will tell.

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    They have given / sold their affiliate database to betanysports - now been spammed / contacted by them. Telling me to sign up as is same backend. Yet more evidence 5D has no use for it.

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    Telling you to sign in to BetAnySports (BAS) backend with your 5Dimes affiliate number? Or a new BAS affiliate? If 5D has given BAS, there database data why not just import the current users over? Maybe, even give them back to you.

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