Abuse Bestpaypartners.com

[casinosenlinea]

"Below this post there is written in the original Spanish, Does anybody I can translate into good English so they understand ?.

English Google Translator:

Hello to all members of GPWA,
My complaint is it given to Bestpaypartners long, steady decreases in commission "Rev Share," went on to explain:
- Some time ago 50% Rev Share agreed with the account Uriel (just include advertising) without guaranteed or anything players.
- Once Bestpaypartners.com Uriel left of me under the 25% commission, John relented and put to November 40%.
- At the time I ordered 100 records per month, an abusive amount as I'll ever get to that amount or even 50%, this agreement was never accepted (only answer email asking banners).
- Currently nearly $ 40k Rev Share I have 30%, the argument is only sent one player.
- If I complain threaten me with me down over 20% Rev Share.
From my point of view, never accept work with any sponsor that rise and fall commissions, or to force me to ensure players, is this a game? It's not a job !.
There are many casinos in the industry and I do not have to accept these policies, I seem unfair and creates anxiety, surely any webmaster.
I am not a webmaster to do many players, but that sent high-quality players, other casinos rewarded with higher commissions without scaling without disturbing each month with lower commission, here are some examples:
Whilliam Hill:
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con.../12/affutd.png
Casino Extra:
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...asinoextra.png
Finally I call add in the top positions and maximum visibility, because I have to put 1 on my website that pays 30% Rev Share casino and also wants each month down more and more commissions?
I do not think that's fair.
Tried every means to add at least 40% without guarantee anything and it does not bother me each month with lower commissions game is impossible, does not yield because there is money to be 30% to 40%.
December Stats account (unused for new platform for them):
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...diciembre1.png
December 2 Stats account (new platform for them):
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...-cuenta-21.png
Rev Share declined to about 30% for December:
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...e-comision.png
"In this email is not intended disrespect to the company Bestpaypartners.com only one view of disagreement occurs with fixed commissions".
Best Regards.
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Spanish:
Hola a todos los miembros de GPWA,
Mi queja viene dada desde hace tiempo con Bestpaypartners, bajadas constantes de comisión “Rev Share”, pasó a explicar:
- Hace tiempo se acordó el 50% Rev Share con el account Uriel (solo por incluir la publicidad) sin jugadores garantizados ni nada.
- Una vez Uriel se marchó de Bestpaypartners.com se me bajo la comisión al 25%, John cedió y puso para el mes de noviembre el 40%.
- En ese momento me pidió 100 Registros por mes, una cantidad abusiva pues nunca llegar yo a dicha cantidad ni tan siquiera al 50%, este acuerdo jamás fue aceptado (únicamente contestar correo solicitando banners).
- Actualmente con casi 40k$ de Rev Share tengo el 30%, la argumentación es que solo envié un solo jugador.
- Si me quejo encima me amenazan con bajarme al 20% Rev Share.
Desde mi punto de vista, jamás aceptaría trabajar con ningún sponsor que subiera y bajara comisiones, ni que me obligara a garantizar jugadores, ¿esto es un juego? No es un trabajo!.
Hay muchos casinos en la industria y no creo que tenga que aceptar estas políticas, me parecen abusivas y crea ansiedad, seguramente a cualquier webmaster.
No soy un webmaster de hacer muchos jugadores, pero sí que envió jugadores de alta calidad, otros casinos premian con altas comisiones sin escalado y sin molestar cada mes con bajar comisión, aquí algunos ejemplos:
Whilliam Hill:
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con.../12/affutd.png
Casino Extra:
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...asinoextra.png
Para finalizar me exigen agregarlo en las primeras posiciones y con la máxima visibilidad, porque tengo que poner el 1º en mi sitio web a un casino que paga 30% Rev Share y además quiere cada mes bajar más y más comisiones?
No me parece nada justo.
Tratado por todos los medios de que agregue como mínimo 40% sin garantizar nada y que no me moleste cada mes con el juego de bajar comisiones, es imposible, no cede porque hay dinero de por medio de un 30% a un 40%.
December Stats account (sin usar por nueva plataforma de ellos):
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...diciembre1.png
December Stats account 2 (nueva plataforma de ellos):
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...-cuenta-21.png
Rev Share bajado hasta el 30% para Diciembre:
http://www.casinosenlinea.net/wp-con...e-comision.png
“En este correo no se pretende faltar el respeto a la compañía Bestpaypartners.com únicamente se da un punto de vista de disconformidad con las comisiones fijadas”.
Best Regards.

[CoopersPick]

I am sorry it doesnt translate over to english properly. If you can ask them to send it in English I will be glad to read it for you and help out.

[Roulette Zeitung]

"Below this post there is written in the original Spanish, Does anybody I can translate into good English so they understand ?"

Sometimes one single word or the meaning of a single word can change everything. Google Translator is everything but a translator who meet the high requirements for a thread with the word "Abuse" in the title. Only people having knowledge of Spanish and (!) English language, are able to translate properly.

"Some time ago 50% Rev Share agreed with the account Uriel (just include advertising) without guaranteed or anything players.
Once Bestpaypartners.com Uriel left of me under the 25% commission, John relented and put to November 40%."

Uriel is no longer working for Bestpaypartners. Perhaps deals had to be renegotiated under this view. That are internal decision making and no unusual practice.

Leopold

[wonderpunter]

I'm not going to translate it all because it's too long, But in Laymans terms, He had a deal with Uriel, 50% Revshare with no minimum player requirement, Then his comission was lowered to 25% then john gave in "Whoever he is" mejor explicar quien son ellos? Dueños? gerentes etc? gave in and put his comms back to 40% for the month of November, I assume this was after some discussion? as the OP does not say, ..

Then at the same time he Asked for 100 registrations per month "i assume this is to get the 50% revshare?"
with $40k of rev share he has 30% the problem is he has only sent one player.
He then said if he keeps complaining he will lower the rev share to 20%
He Does not send many players but what he has are high paying ones,

My thoughts on this are, 1st what do your terms and conditions say? what ever deal you had by a handshake can easily be cancelled,

O.k just read their program and they do state clearly that revenue share is dependent on traffic,

CPA, HYBRID and PREPAYMENT’s:


Once your traffic reaches a high and stable pattern, you will be introduced to you our Custom Rates for CPA, Hybrids and Prepayment Deals, where your improved commission rate or payment model will be negotiated with you based on the number of players you can send every month to our casino online.

[casinosenlinea]

To what do I need a casino paying 30% Revshare? if I have casinos paying 50% - 45%.
Above force me to have the best positions.
Does this look right? I see abuse.
There are many casinos in the industry and because of these policies sponsors other casino affiliate webmasters never going to get it no longer fian not trust.
I never accept 100 records per month because I do not do, if it would leave me 40%, as I reach the top 30% and the uncertainty that may even go lower the Rev Share.


The terms come and go each month are modified in many affiliate programs, is this a game? or is it a business ?.

[casinosenlinea]

Bestpay Partners (I always pay) in that no complaints and it is not a fraudulent sponsor in general.
I only complain of Rev Share and conditions because it seems unfair.
But overall GPWA community looks normal, I do not I will discuss more. But I will never work with any other casino sponsor (for fear returning to do the same).

[ocreditor]

To what do I need a casino paying 30% Revshare? if I have casinos paying 50% - 45%.
Above force me to have the best positions.
Does this look right? I see abuse.
There are many casinos in the industry and because of these policies sponsors other casino affiliate webmasters never going to get it no longer fian not trust.
I never accept 100 records per month because I do not do, if it would leave me 40%, as I reach the top 30% and the uncertainty that may even go lower the Rev Share.


The terms come and go each month are modified in many affiliate programs, is this a game? or is it a business ?.

I totally agree with you on this point. Its twisted...
but I think you need to re consider this quote ...

...I will never work with any other casino sponsor (for fear returning to do the same).

After so many years I know there are some programs which are doing abuse, that is true, and also deals closed with people which are no longer working in the company are being ignored by new management also true and wrong ! I lost lost of money during the years... which is a shame

But I still would check each program seperatly without any relation to the fact if they are sponsors or not because good people to close deals with are hiding where you less expect them to be and these people understand the affiliate needs and respect deals !

[casinosenlinea]

Ocreditor personally do not return to work with anyone without prepayment.
I can already do all the ball they want and tell me which are the best in the universe.