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    Default Affiliate Lounge scam!! WARNING !!

    I received this message from Affiliate Lounge
    Dear Partner,


    We are writing to notify you that your account has been inactive for the past 6 months (has not generated a minimum level of activity / new depositing players).


    Under rule 7.9 of our terms and conditions the Company reserves the right to set limits for a minimum level of activity on Affiliate’s accounts and to terminate any agreement not reaching the limit.



    Consequently our Affiliate Agreement is now being terminated. Your March and remaining unpaid commission will be paid out in early April 2014 and your account will be permanently shut down after this process. You will not be eligible to earn or receive Commissions after the effective termination date.




    I'm working with them since 2006,at this time I sent 1000 + new deposit players.When 2006 I started to promote them ,they promised a lifetime commission,but now are retroactively changed the terms and conditions and put unacceptable rule 7.9

    In February, I've 4 new registered players and 1 new deposit player .For the last 6 months 32 new registered players and 7 new deposit player..Every month I got one new deposit player but they decided to close my account
    WARNING !! They are fraudsters
    Inform all my players and visitors that they are fraudsters


    rule 7.9
    7.9 The Company reserves the right to set limits for a minimum level of activity on Affiliate’s accounts. Such minimum activity levels will be continuously reviewed and the Company reserves the right to terminate any agreement not reaching the limit. Such limit shall not be unreasonably high and reflect the intention of avoiding accounts where the revenue does not cover the Company’s internal costs for maintaining the account and the payout procedure.

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    I got the same message, I really hope this is a mistake. I have several thousands of players tied to my accounts. Granted, I havn't sent as much players as I used to but last month I made over 6k rev share. Only explanation would be if Betsson is in trouble.

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    enforcing quotas is really shortsighted and bad for biz. And those programs that do this retroactively are shooting themselves in the foot.
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    The same for me. They take money from affiliates who have players who deposit and they pay nothing.
    It is fashionable now to add in the terms and conditions, to stop paying and close accounts if there is no depositors players.

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    We need to make sure affiliates understand how bad quota terms (of all kinds) are, and make it "fashionable" to exclude programs that have them from our sites.

    I am really fed up hearing the "but we would never use that term" or "but program x is the best even with that term" etc etc etc.

    I was very strongly opposed to quotas many years ago (no matter how many told me we would never see the days we are seeing now) and I am actually disgusted with myself for putting a few of the groups I work with on my sites, but I rarely ever get involved with groups I am not currently working with if they have such terms.

    Affiliates should just be paid fairly for players sent, period, whether it's one player or thousands.

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    The terms & conditions are horrible, but I hope that the e-mail is a mistake. I know that many affiliates that send good quality traffic each month have received this e-mail. I hope that affiliates take legal action against the Betsson-group if this isn't a mistake.

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    In the short term, they'll make a lot of money. In the long term, it will bite them in the backside when all the search engine searches for their names and brands bring up the words; rogues, scammers, thieves, etc. They'll lose most of the free, highly targeted traffic from affiliates and will have to resort to buying their own traffic which I'm sure will not be anywhere near as good.

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    not really a surprise there is no official statement or at least some kind of explanation from AffL. Plain stupid...
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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    We need to make sure affiliates understand how bad quota terms (of all kinds) are, and make it "fashionable" to exclude programs that have them from our sites.
    Totally agree! If we don't boycott the programms that have such terms more might follow that "trend"
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    It happened again, on 6th and 8th Aug, I have exactly zero revenue accross all brands (Nordicbet, Dhoze etc...), which is statistically nonsense. All other numbers like casino gamewin, total gamewin, totals bonunses etc. are not zero. Anyone else has zeroes at 6th and 8th this month as overall income? I remember this happened last time during one big CL event.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sherlock View Post
    It happened again, on 6th and 8th Aug, I have exactly zero revenue accross all brands (Nordicbet, Dhoze etc...), which is statistically nonsense. All other numbers like casino gamewin, total gamewin, totals bonunses etc. are not zero. Anyone else has zeroes at 6th and 8th this month as overall income? I remember this happened last time during one big CL event.
    It happens from time to time but they correct it a few days after. Unless it was correct in the first place.

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    Well! My sites get very little traffic and have only been promoting Affiliate Lounge for a couple months and not had any activity at all. I can see here that I am going to need to pull all promotion of Affiliate Lounge brands before they get to me first because if a GPWA member who gets all those registrations and depositors can get the boot from Affiliate Lounge I'm gonna be next in line. I got the same thing from Pinnacle Sports some time ago.

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    Affiliates should just be paid fairly for players sent, period, whether it's one player or thousands and with No Limitations ( Agree 100% Rick) - If the agreement is Lifetime Revenue then that's what it should be.

    If an affiliate is not producing results then the program themselves and the affiliate mangers should also take a look at what they are doing wrong they should be looking at the affiliates accounts , websites , marketing material etc and try work with them to increase their Results Not just leave them alone and hope for the best Really Not Fair Makes us all look Bad

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3jokers View Post
    It happens from time to time but they correct it a few days after. Unless it was correct in the first place.
    Yup, it is corrected without my intervention.

    I understand affiliate lounge ratio deposits of players/ payouts of bookies is extremely poor. I was also reatroactively scammed by their sister company commission lounge.

    I have no intention to say they are a great affiliate programme, but I have reasons why to do that:

    1. Bet365 as benchmark of industry has even worse ratio deposits of players/payouts and some other are close to that. They might have 25% only rev share and reduce it to half netto, but the strength of brand is important as well. Nordicbet is quite strong brand in Scandinavia. At least I think so. At least they show a little bit more in detail how the money is substracted.

    2. Is there some other choice for Portugal than Dhoze? Btw. they have great creatives and convert very well for me.

    3. Any company can always turn to worng way and then come back. It is hard to see the inflection points. Affiliate lounge IMO is quite big and they should make conclusions from their mistakes. I remember from casino era that they were actually quite honest with casino euro, cherry... I hope they can get back on track some day, like Unibet for example did (I think Unibet.com now is again very good affiliate program; Unibet.fr is however horrible). I am sure that 1-2years they were shaving my commissions because in many consecutive months there were deductions during the last day of month (really stupid way how to do it, but it happened). It does not happen anymore (probably after they asked me for more traffic and I told them about that + they avoided to answer the commission lounge issue).
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    yes.. the same story for us.. they are threating us to clouse account because of low convertion for new registartions What a stupid system, we are going get rid of all the banners from Affliate Lounge - the worst company ever!

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    I shut down the banners of these clowns some time ago. Betsson does not want to understand what lifetime means. Quote, but also ripping players from affiliate database... it's a company that doesn't threat their affiliates the way it should be.

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    Affiliate Lounge / Betsson group is unfortunately turning into SCAM.

    I would advise any affiliate to terminate their relationship with them as soon as possible , or you will regret it later.

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    Quote Originally Posted by topcasinosystems View Post
    Affiliate Lounge / Betsson group is unfortunately turning into SCAM.

    I would advise any affiliate to terminate their relationship with them as soon as possible , or you will regret it later.
    This is not detailed explanation. Rather tell me what is good bookie for Portugal nowadays except AL Dhoze.
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    The explanation can only be one: Betsson group is undergoing financial troubles.. Now, they are founding new tricks how to not pay at all or pay less commission, even though they promissed keep life-time deals.

    As suggested, the best solution is to stop promote these Brands.. there are far more better affiliate programs.

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