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    Nobody ever said you copied the content, the design was copied, it is a clone. This is almost as bad as stealing the content but it is copying no matter how you look at it whether you could copy content or a design, stealing is stealing. Askgamblers is the most unique casino portal you will ever see and gamingtheodds is the closest to an exact match as you can get. If you really want to just get back to making money in this business, you shouldn't rip off designs by other designers. When you do things like this an affiliate could report your site to the host, they could report your site to affiliate programs and Google DCMA.

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    0% of my content has been copied from other sites (again, I know since I've spent 100s of hours creating the content). In fact, as the post above explains, five sites have copied my content. I should be the one starting these threads.



    So even that is a "maybe" now? Why are you so biased?

    And yes you can argue. In fact, you CAN'T argue that it is a "pure copy".


    • Font is different
    • Title / text styling is different
    • Top navigation is different
    • Left sidebar is different
    • Right sidebar is different
    • Colour scheme is different
    • Casino listings are different
    • Mobile interface is different
    • Review page is different
    • Site width is different
    • ... again, are we done here?

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTO View Post
    0% of my content has been copied from other sites (again, I know since I've spent 100s of hours creating the content). In fact, as the post above explains, five sites have copied my content. I should be the one starting these threads.



    So even that is a "maybe" now? Why are you so biased?

    And yes you can argue. In fact, you CAN'T argue that it is a "pure copy".


    • Font is different
    • Title / text styling is different
    • Top navigation is different
    • Left sidebar is different
    • Right sidebar is different
    • Colour scheme is different
    • Casino listings are different
    • Mobile interface is different
    • Review page is different
    • Site width is different
    • ... again, are we done here?
    I once cloned the Mona Lisa - but used finger paints & crayons so that no one could argue it was a "pure copy".

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    Quote Originally Posted by gaffg View Post
    Nobody ever said you copied the content,
    Another false claim. Look at post #14.

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    Askgamblers is the most unique casino portal you will ever see
    LOL, you really like these guys, don't you?

    Quote Originally Posted by gaffg View Post
    If you really want to just get back to making money in this business, you shouldn't rip off designs by other designers. When you do things like this an affiliate could report your site to the host, they could report your site to affiliate programs and Google DCMA.
    Thanks for the advice, but once again, I never copied the site.

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    I'm not taking either side, but can someone outline what exactly is the replica here. I can see the colors, the positioning of stuff, but it's this the most general layout around here isnt it? I don't know if I'm seeing right now a "revised" version, but I can't make it. Four tires and steering wheel don't make car manufacturers thieves.

    I'd understand if the wording of the menu is the same, or if u had images with like sizes like 233x51 something that's unique and there's like 0% chance for coincidence, but 2 colors and menu positions? Once again, im just viewing this Oct 30th don't know if anything has been "altered"
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    I'll make changes to the site.

    I don't feel like it's a copy (an opinion admittedly influenced by having worked hours and hours on the code) but if many of the members of this community and the site owner (all of whom I respect) feel like the resemblance is too deep, it's only fair that I'll make the changes.

    I value my reputation in this industry and understand that reputation should be built on more identifiable websites.

    P.S. This could have been solved behind the scenes, though, had I been contacted before the blog post and the making of this thread. Was this actually something that the OP wanted to solve or a publicity stunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by xecutable View Post
    I'm not taking either side, but can someone outline what exactly is the replica here. I can see the colors, the positioning of stuff, but it's this the most general layout around here isnt it? I don't know if I'm seeing right now a "revised" version, but I can't make it. Four tires and steering wheel don't make car manufacturers thieves.

    I'd understand if the wording of the menu is the same, or if u had images with like sizes like 233x51 something that's unique and there's like 0% chance for coincidence, but 2 colors and menu positions? Once again, im just viewing this Oct 30th don't know if anything has been "altered"
    im with you, although it's similar it's hard to see an exact copy

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    im with you, although it's similar it's hard to see an exact copy
    I disagree. The design is to close for comfort. Particularly the red on each site jumps out and is identical besides changing the wording a bit.

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    Exact copy no but it seems clear the gamingtheodds site was made to be a copy from askgamblers. All of the logos were custom formatted too which can be a lot of work and seems all was done by askgamblers first. You put the sides side by side and it is hard to see how gamingtheodds is different. The advanced features of askgamblers are not included because they are not easy items to copy. If you used a website cloning software or paid a programmer to copy askgamblers, you would probably end up with something like gamingtheodds.





    Don't understand how anyone can think nothing wrong was done here. To defend it saying it isn't a copy implies intent. The programmer or 'designer' clearly looked at the askgamblers site and based gamingtheodds site around this. There are just too many similaries:

    Colour scheme: logo, black menu bar, grey background with white elements for the cards and side bar
    Footer layout: features 6 columns with a header and 5 listings
    Left sidebar: is very thin and is similar style, bold title and text for menu items, both have same mouse over effects which is no change in colour or underline link which is usually standard on most sites.
    Cards: Sure anybody can use them to feature products or listings but everything is nearly identical, circular logos which the copies seem to come from askgamblers, casino name at top, logo in the centre and circular, red button below and they both have similar mouse over effects of going shades of red that are lighter.
    Scrolling/sticky menu & sidebar: Again askgamblers can't say they are the first site to do this but the sites side by side look nearly identical.

    Askgamblers could provide detailed explanations for the design and the reasons behind it so the question is why does the gamingtheodds.com site have the same features, what is the reason or purpose other than because askgamblers has it? If you want to copy a layout of a successful site I don't think too many people would even notice but when it looks this similar it is hard to see a difference or any originality at all.

    Overall using a site copy like this is just a risk that isn't worth taking so if you feel nothing wrong has been done then don't change anything.

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    Stating this is not the copy, only implies that something serious is not right about this industry.

    For those who might missed, here it the story behind AskGamblers redesign:
    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...-a-case-study/

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lucky13 View Post
    Stating this is not the copy, only implies that something serious is not right about this industry.

    For those who might missed, here it the story behind AskGamblers redesign:
    http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...-a-case-study/
    So stating my opinion is now "something very wrong" if God forbid is not identical with everyone's here? All I said it wasn't taking sides, just wanted to see something more rational than "it looks the same" like:

    "Footer layout: features 6 columns with a header and 5 listings
    Left sidebar: is very thin and is similar style, bold title and text for menu items, both have same mouse over effects which is no change in colour or underline link which is usually standard on most sites."
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    gaffg provided all major similarities. If you can't see them, I won't try to convince you. Over & out.

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    I was the one that brought up the copied content issue. This was noticed after the fact while I was investigating the original OP's claim. If in fact this content as copied FROM you, and you discover the site owners are members here, do not hesitate to get in touch with me so we can investigate and take action.

    I did not state the content was taken from AskGamblers, and I stated clearly that copyscape found no problems during the Membership review.

    This was not the sole reason the account status was changed, and it has been set back to full Private Membership status.

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    Don't get how this obvious copy is even a topic. And the argument "it looks the same" is maybe not valid with a themeforest theme but with such a unique design, it ia just obvious that it is a copy

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    I'm at a loss.

    I'd understand if the wording of the menu is the same, or if u had images with like sizes like 233x51 something that's unique and there's like 0% chance for coincidence, but 2 colors and menu positions?
    I am confused.

    If I wanted to copy, say, Casino City, all I would have to do is change the banner size and text? If Casino City had a banner 233x51 I could just alter it a size or two to a banner 223x41 and I am good? Meanwhile taking their header, layout, hard work, expenses etc.

    Change the wording on the menu? No problem. I better get to work.

    I'm with Lucky13 that there is seriously something wrong with this industry if we do not defend this kind of thing.

    Perhaps someone has an axe to grind. I don't know.

    I've had this happen to me before but the copiers also took my affy tags lol. Funny.

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    Seriously now... if this is not a clear case of a copied site then I don't know what is...Just because you made some minor tweaks and couple of design changes does not mean that your site is now "unique".

    And now to defend it as your own "copyright" is utter BS.

    Some of these so called "webmasters" never cease to amaze me ...

    GTO you should not just "make changes to the site" , you should change the whole site. Period.
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    Problem is - when some people design a site, they show the "design guy" a site or two from within the industry and say "I want my site to look something like this" or "I like the way that looks"...

    Same with content --- some show their "writer" a site and say "I want my review to sound like that".

    Both of which, in my mind, is copying.

    There's no doubt in my mind that whether actually coding the site himself or using a "designer", the Ask Gamblers site was used as a basis for the design idea.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GTO View Post
    I'll make changes to the site.

    I don't feel like it's a copy (an opinion admittedly influenced by having worked hours and hours on the code) but if many of the members of this community and the site owner (all of whom I respect) feel like the resemblance is too deep, it's only fair that I'll make the changes.

    I value my reputation in this industry and understand that reputation should be built on more identifiable websites.

    P.S. This could have been solved behind the scenes, though, had I been contacted before the blog post and the making of this thread. Was this actually something that the OP wanted to solve or a publicity stunt?
    You have used the AG concept as a foundation does not matter which building blocks you put on top of it as you started with a bad idea to imitate somebody's hard work.

    Get over it buy a template and start over again then you show respect.

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    If Gaming The Odds was your site would you feel comfortable with what you had created? I would not.
    If Ask Gamblers was your site, would you be comfortable with what Gaming The Odds had done? I would not.

    While nothing is new out there, a carbon copy of a unique design is not ethical in my opinion. Who knows which side a court of law would favour.

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