Coronavirus Precautions?

[Nenad]

I can see that in Italy some stores are empty. It seems that people are panicking. Panic can just make things worse.

[TheGooner]

Even a " normal flu" is not easy to cope with! I have that nasty experience.
But somehow I think this is something that is slightly different than the normal flu.

"just the normal flu" ?? Between 15,000 to 30,000 Americans die each year from "just the normal flu".
The estimates are that "the normal flu" kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year.
Source : https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...iclekey=208914

But the flu only kills around 0.1% (1 in 1,000) of the people it infects these days, as it's only really lethal to people with other health issues or very low immune systems now.

The Coronavirus is new so it has many variants/strains and many strengths - but over a short period the virus strains that actually kill their host quickly will diminish (dead people don't spread the disease so much) while the variants that just make people feel ill but not so bad so that the people keep moving and spreading the disease will prosper.

This diminishing kill rate of surviving diseases is a well-known vector as the evolution of viruses is much faster due to the "life-cycle".

By the end of this year the Coronavirus will be everywhere - it won't be "contained" - and it will be just another treatable illness like the common flu, especially if a vaccine and treatments are available, as the death rate will become similar to flu in Western countries that have access to medicines.

[Christiaan]

Certainly stepping up the precautions to be more careful/diligent. Interesting all stores are sold out of hand sanitizers. Even online difficult to find.

Things will be getting much worse before seeing any improvements.

And they make the prices way higher for hand sanitizers and mouth masks. (not that I buy them myself)

[Nenad]

"just the normal flu" ?? Between 15,000 to 30,000 Americans die each year from "just the normal flu".
The estimates are that "the normal flu" kills 291,000 to 646,000 people worldwide each year.
Source : https://www.medicinenet.com/script/m...iclekey=208914

But the flu only kills around 0.1% (1 in 1,000) of the people it infects these days, as it's only really lethal to people with other health issues or very low immune systems now.

The Coronavirus is new so it has many variants/strains and many strengths - but over a short period the virus strains that actually kill their host quickly will diminish (dead people don't spread the disease so much) while the variants that just make people feel ill but not so bad so that the people keep moving and spreading the disease will prosper.

This diminishing kill rate of surviving diseases is a well-known vector as the evolution of viruses is much faster due to the "life-cycle".

By the end of this year the Coronavirus will be everywhere - it won't be "contained" - and it will be just another treatable illness like the common flu, especially if a vaccine and treatments are available, as the death rate will become similar to flu in Western countries that have access to medicines.

You are right, that's why I wrote "normal flu".

[golfbettingsystem]

Interesting analysis here from the BBC, estimating the mortality late at around 1% so around 10x more potent than normal flu at present: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

[falseadoom]

It is growing everyday https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

[TheGooner]

It is growing everyday https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/

Here is a better graphic with map data.
https://gisanddata.maps.arcgis.com/a...23467b48e9ecf6

[JamieG1981]

Interesting analysis here from the BBC, estimating the mortality late at around 1% so around 10x more potent than normal flu at present: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51674743

Almost all deaths are people with underlying conditions, take them out the mortality rate drops to almost nothing. Also most deaths in China where I can't imagine the healthcare/treatment was up to much.

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[golfbettingsystem]

Almost all deaths are people with underlying conditions, take them out the mortality rate drops to almost nothing. Also most deaths in China where I can't imagine the healthcare/treatment was up to much.

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Sound like there’s a fair amount of panic - as you say, all need to be taken in context. According to the UK government 80% of us will get it 20% off work at the same time at its peak: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/world-51716375

[carl2603GL]

I have read through the above posts and I read the mention of a face mask. I think its worth adding that face masks do not prevent u getting the diseases, they just prevent u giving it to others unless its an N-95 face mask. The standard masks that dentists wear are no good as you still breathe in contaminated air from the sides of the mask.

We are taking some precautions at work since here is where we spend most of our day and stay in contact with lots of people - door are left open to minimize touching, we have sanitizes everywhere and we dont use our finger scan to enter the building for the time being. I think these are basic precautions that don't require too much effort but can go a long way.

[The Buzz]

In case you missed today's press release:

G2E Asia postpones 2020 show due to coronavirus disease outbreak
The event originally set for 19-21 May will now be scheduled for 28-30 July 28-30, 2020 at the Venetian Macao.

https://www.gpwa.org/article/g2e-asi...utbreak-233685

[eenzoo]

2 month will change nothing imo ... what about Sigma Manila in June? Actually I was up for but not under that circumstances.

[Former Member 14]

AU News released : https://7news.com.au/lifestyle/health-wellbeing/sydney-aged-care-residents-isolated-after-much-loved-worker-contracts-coronavirus-c-729060

[golfbettingsystem]

New Bond film put back to November on Coronavirus fears: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51744374

[allaboutthebets]

New Bond film put back to November on Coronavirus fears: https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-51744374

Wounder. Was looking forward to this one too

[Buddy M]

With Mike Pence in charge of handling the virus in the USA you left praying off the list.

Hey, we might all get lucky with Bernie Sanders and be on Medicare for all; Speaking from someone who is on Medicare, you dont wanna be on it!

Other than that I stopped shaking hands. I use to hate the fist bump, but as of late I embrassed it.

[Buddy M]

I can see that in Italy some stores are empty. It seems that people are panicking. Panic can just make things worse.

I still have some family in Italy and they arent freakin out, but they did say how empty the shelves are and how some people are really in a panic. My niece said you can feel the panic when you walk out the door.

[Buddy M]

I agree 100%. Its gonna be like the flu, next year ppl will be asking "did you get the Crown shot yet?"
I do think its serious however and I'd be lieing if I said I never think about it. I have a cruise coming up and I am starting to seriously concider not going; I'll be loosing some coinage, but Im still thinking of not going. I hope all of you stay safe and healthy.

[carl2603GL]

hey there well I have a holiday planned next month and not sure I am going to cancel it - and its a holiday to Tuscany which is the Epicentre of the virus in Europe . Tuscany is located in central Italy so I am hoping that [although the virus has not yet been reported in this region] the warmer weathers which April will bring will see the virus dwindle. Fingers crossed that this corona virus will follow the seasonal trends of other corona viruses [the common flu is also a corono virus] . Anyways I was reading this which u can find online on National Geo : Will warming spring temperatures slow the coronavirus outbreak?

[GPWA Maria]

Hey Karl,

I know a holiday is important and takes a lot of effort and planning. If I were you, I would cancel it. The vaccine for this virus will be available a year from now or maybe later.
The first case of Covid-19 ( yesterday) in Chile was from a guy that just visited Italy, now the whole region is in danger of getting the virus. So I think the risk is not only a personal one, but there is a big risk to others too.