Etiquette with network and operators

[benl12]

I've always prefer to deal direct with operators. I used to work with Tradedoubler and Affiliate Window back in the day and they were terrible. However, I found a casino network that offers better commissions than I can negotiate by myself, eg, I get 35% direct but can get 40% via a network. So my question is, if I work with the operator already, shall I give them chance to match the offer or just swap banners over?

With new operators its a no brainer. Better commission, no affiliate managers to deal with and a single payment from someone not called Worldpay.

[Renee]

The reason networks may be able to offer a higher commission is because they are sending traffic as "one" account. So for example, the network may be getting traffic from 100 affiliates and sending to that operator, but the operator sees it as traffic from one account only. I hope I explained that in a comprehensible way LOL

Sometimes operators have rules in place where if you already have an account you can't rejoin through a network.
I would contact the affiliate program and tell them the situation. They have to pay commissions to the third party too, so it might be cheaper for them if they just up your commission without you going through the third party.

Good luck!

[benl12]

Thanks. I understand how they offer better commissions. Super Affiliates get all the best deals. Just didn't think they'd pass on that much.

>>Sometimes operators have rules in place where if you already have an account you can't rejoin through a network.

Thats the problem. If I ask and they say I can't rejoin via a network, then I'm snookered. Also I'd sound a bit pretentious asking for Super affiliate commission when I'm only sending 1 or 2 FTDs a month. If I just move, I can get the higher commission with no hassle. Decisions, decisions...

I asked a friend about this too and he said for lots of people they are better but there are two main downsides. 1) The network is a super affiliate so may spy on you. 2) You don't get to speak to affiliate mangers but for me, thats more of a plus than a minus Also, there are only about 6 banners per operator on this network and you only get one tracking code.

[universal4]

The biggest issue with going through a network is that the operator/affiliate program does not see the traffic as YOURS, they see it coming from the "network" as the affiliate.

We have seen over and over and over again throughout the years that a "network" will have trouble getting paid from any specific operator and they will most often without payment to the affiliate when this happens.

However, in my opinion, of you make a deal with a "network", and the payments come from the "network" then the "network" should pay the affiliate, and if they have an issue getting paid by the operator the affiliate should be paid anyway, since the affiliate makes the deal with the "network" not the operator.

Also, don't overlook cases of fraud. Besides not having any control over whether the "network" could be involved, any single affiliate under the "network" program could perpetrate fraud in such a manner as to cause the deal between the "network" and the operator to be canceled, and you are left out in the cold, having to go back to the operator and cut your own deal again and starting from scratch, and having lost any previous players sent since they are not yours, they belong to the "network".

Rick
Universal4

[Renee]

>>Sometimes operators have rules in place where if you already have an account you can't rejoin through a network.

Thats the problem. If I ask and they say I can't rejoin via a network, then I'm snookered. Also I'd sound a bit pretentious asking for Super affiliate commission when I'm only sending 1 or 2 FTDs a month. If I just move, I can get the higher commission with no hassle. Decisions, decisions...

I'm not sure how other operators work, but if a network approaches me then the agreement does not go ahead unless the network agrees to give me affiliate's details if I ask for them in case of things like fraud etc. So going with the network may not get around this.