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    Quote Originally Posted by FSB View Post
    And, what about Flip Affiliates (hxxp://flipaffiliates.com) which is under Fable Media's management?
    Really.. where do you see that Flip is under Fable?

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    Quote Originally Posted by mickyfu View Post
    It is my firm belief that these white label programs have no interest in their casinos in the slightest. Their business model has nothing to do with casinos. Their business model revolves around collecting data from mugs (white label owners) who spend 100s of 1000s building a nice list for Nektan and co, on a piece of crap that Nektan would be happy to see ran into the ground, so they can than happily and legally take all their players and data.
    Similar rort to what Rival, Black Square and their subsidiary Bonne Chance were doing with their Rival Powered white label "business model".

    To the best of my knowledge, these white labels were using the following services of Rival/Black Square:

    • Casino software etc., etc.
    • Gaming servers
    • Customer support
    • Deposit and withdrawal processing
    • In some instances even affiliate services


    In addition, the contractual agreement between Bonne Chance and these white label's, included a clause along these lines:
    If the white label screwed up (for whatever reason), Rival et al, can take back ownership to prevent further damage to their brand.

    With so much control over these white label casinos, it was akin to shooting fish in a barrel for Rival.

    Can't recall her name now, but she was a well liked and trusted AM, who'd been in the industry since the early days. Used to work at a Microgaming aff program for years (not Referback) but she was located in Cape Town.

    Long story short...
    After leaving and working at a few other affiliate programs, herself and with (life) partner, opened a Rival white label: Dendera Casino (circa 2009). Everything WAS (operative word) going well, players/affiliates were getting paid, happy..happy!

    Probably 14 months or so later, totally different story. Customer support/withdrawals (reiterating all handed in-house by Rival et al), had turned to shite. Players were owed money for literally weeks on end, if they even got paid. The place was falling down around their ears. Eventually it seems Rival enacted the 'take back clause', and it was all over Red Rover.

    The modus operadi was the same...
    Let a white label grow its player base (aided by affiliates), then set about to destroy white label. Win Win for Rival et al.


    Edit:
    AFAIK, if not all, then 99% of Rival white label's have fallen to the same fate. Coincidence? You be the judge!
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    Quote Originally Posted by ocreditor View Post
    Really.. where do you see that Flip is under Fable?
    We have been working with them for some time...

    Head of Aff: Anders Holm Christensen

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    We didn't get an email about the closure. The only email we got is that Insta Casino is closing down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCIndex View Post
    We didn't get an email about the closure. The only email we got is that Insta Casino is closing down.
    Insta Casino is belong to Honest Partners not Fable

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    Quote Originally Posted by ocreditor View Post
    Insta Casino is belong to Honest Partners not Fable
    Yeah I don't know why I confuse Honest partners with Flip affiliates! Anyways, we didn't get an update nor any emails from them that they're closing down.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CCIndex View Post
    Yeah I don't know why I confuse Honest partners with Flip affiliates! Anyways, we didn't get an update nor any emails from them that they're closing down.
    It's a shame to hear.. I actually received from both, still the fact that Fable are leaving their brands live and cutting affiliates is still considered a kind of fraud if you ask me

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