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[theGman]

Actually I believe g-mans name is Greg G. (if you want his last name PM me), he and Stelios are not the same person, at least I don't believe they are.

However I understand Greg G. and Stelios do take orders and get a paycheck from the same person.

I still have a little bird insisting that Greg G. aka 'g-man' still works for the wagerjunction parent company that is owed by our old friend T. Sagi, the biggest crook in this business.

Also take note ALL the promotions on g-mans sites are Sagi properties... the g-man appears to be owned by Sagi.

Wow - taking it to another level - you need to feed that bird as its hallucinating man. If anyone wants to know my surname Brad all they need to do is ask me.

I have nothing to hide. I am now convinced that you are not just a forum troll - you are unstable . You need help. Why would anyone want my surname and why would you be wanting to dish that information out ?

Yet again you have made the wildest statements that have no basis of fact or truth and you are attempting to do what with my name may i ask ?

[Anthony]

Alright guys no need to get personal.

This has been an interesting thread, let's not degrade it.

[lots0]

Greg if you really left Wagerjunction and went to work for yourself as an affiliate five years ago ( 2008 ) like you said you did...

... I am an ex employee of WJ and am a full time affiliate in various niches.

I run a few gambling sites ( Casino and Bingo and other non gambling sites. I left them about 5 years ago and have been doing various things in the gambling space and other affiliate niches.

Why were you issuing press releases for a Wink Bingo and King Solomons Casino, in July of 2010? (I'm perdy sure Wink Bingo is another Sagi property)

http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/pres...ame-160012.php
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/pres...win-160364.php

Greg I know you think I'm troll and unstable and all... but it's things like this that just drive me nuts...

[theGman]

Why were you issuing press releases for a Wink Bingo and King Solomons Casino, in July of 2010? (I'm perdy sure Wink Bingo is another Sagi property)

http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/pres...ame-160012.php
http://www.24-7pressrelease.com/pres...win-160364.php

Greg I know you think I'm troll and unstable and all... but it's things like this that just drive me nuts..

I said i wasnt going to reply but here i am again.

Lots of affiliates do press releases all the time so not sure what the issue is. Could you point out what the issue is with these press releases ? Please highlight the particular issue

You think Wink Bingo is a Teddy Sagi property and i am paid by him do you ? Well,he is welcome to pay me money at any time if he wants to - ill gladly take it off him, but unfortunately as of right now and as far as i know i have never been on his payroll.

Ill take his money for his team shafting me on Cpays and ill take his money any time he wants to send it to me for promoting properties - but it has to be paid up front.

Brad - you and i got along fine and we made money together when Windows was on RTG , there is no doubt amongst a lot of affiliates as to the fact that things improved when WJ took those properties over. I dont even think you can dispute this fact. There were a lot of very happy affiliates pre UIGEA at Windows RTG.

I was still there when your first chargeback came in on the Playtech . You sent in a really rude email and as far as i can remember you later apologised for that email. I left shortly after that to pursue other opportunities as everyone does in life.

I am telling you - as a friend - you are barking up the wrong tree here. You are so far off base with your above statements both about me and in my opinion about WJ. So as a favour i am going to tell you about the above PR . I wouldnt normally do this - as i regard my business as my business, but out of respect for you and the decent relationship that we had , i will attempt to explain.

Wink Bingo is now owned by 888 - i was quite a big bingo affiliate back in 2010 and ran a bingo site called Bingostreet.com . That was subsequently sold to 888 as well btw and they turned it into a bingo skin. From the looks of it i was targeting the keyword Wink bingo

Unless Tedi Sagi owns 888 - which i highly doubt - he has nothing to do with Wink Bingo. Other bingo affiliates can bear this fact out.

I did PR for King Solomons and the Blade game simply because i got good conversion and value out of both the game and King Solomons at the time.

If you care to take a look at the links on both the PR articles - i think that this will bear out what i am saying.

I make no apologies for promoting WJ products . There are lots of affiliates now who were aff managers that promote products they managed. I do it because i know the owners and i know the ethos they subscribe to.

These guys paid a Turkish Affiliate who had precisely one big player for 4 years in the region of $20-$40k a month - ONE PLAYER Brad . That was on AMC software that they started with Golden Palace but thats a whole other story.

So here i am working away and occassionally i see you posting on the forums and its generally stating some or other kind of thing - involving - your experience with a place and what you think of it, and it generally turns nasty. Why man ?

I happened to be in the right place at the right time with the right set of people and i made it happen for myself . So to see you come on here and say things like how do i feel about stealing ideas from affiliates that i worked with are so far off base and totally derogatory.

I created and built a bingo sites that was recognized as an authority site at the time and i and my team of people from around the world worked their butts off. That was sold as i stated and 888 have now turned it into a Bingo room. They can do what they want with it as they have paid their money.

You have been banned at another well known forum and i dont really care about why that happened, what i care about at this point in time is why a decent guy like yourself has started to go onto forums to lash out and make wild claims. I am talking spefically about myself here.

Seriously man , it cant be doing your stress levels any good , it is certainly not doing mine any favours , and its sure not doing your bottom line any favours.

So heres the thing man , im sitting here in Turkey - Cesmealti - a beautiful place at almost midnight , wondering why there is so much anger coming out of you.

By the way - i promote a number of Playtech properties including Genting , Bet365 and Betfred , i have also noticed that i tend to stick to operations based in the UK for the large part. I promote Brightshare as i think they are great and various others.

So that in essence is my story Brad - i have a great life - living in a place i love ( the weather is great ) doing something that i really enjoy , with people that are really cool . I dont really know what else to say. Perhaps just Chill out man and take it a little easier.

[Muppet]

All other stuff aside, the person writing the email to me from "Stelios" is the same person writing the Gman's posts. I have no doubt about that.

[theGman]

All other stuff aside, the person writing the email to me from "Stelios" is the same person writing the Gman's posts. I have no doubt about that.

Yawn - This is beoming a bit much now. Anyways seems like there is just no pleasing some people. Whatever.

[boczom1]

Gman, what's even more pathetic is WJ letting you take all this heat....without them chiming in..

then again, if you were still with WJ...i'm guessing your responses here would of been more professional and more 'kiss ass'. (1 reason why I could never be an aff manager....all the fake kiss-ass emails they gotta send out to everyone)

at-least your being straight-up. Kinda cool to see for a change.

[wagerjunction]

Hi, there is no point for me to post anything here, I've understand some time ago that unfortunately I can't make a proper conversation with lots0, plus I'm very busy speaking with Playtech and trying to get some answers (and maybe fixes?) to the points made by Universal4 and Muppet in our forum page, those posts are important to me and WJ. So I apologize for not going to participate here.

By the way I'm Stelios, I live between London and Athens (Greece) and I'm in WJ since 2008. Best regards

[mojo]

Hi, there is no point for me to post anything here, I've understand some time ago that unfortunately I can't make a proper conversation with lots0, plus I'm very busy speaking with Playtech and trying to get some answers (and maybe fixes?) to the points made by Universal4 and Muppet in our forum page, those posts are important to me and WJ. So I apologize for not going to participate here.

By the way I'm Stelios, I live between London and Athens (Greece) and I'm in WJ since 2008. Best regards

Hi Stelios, nice to meet you.

I'm sure you will agree that this whole thing is very bizarre, even for affiliate standards and all of the things we've seen. And we've seen everything.

Perhaps you feel you cannot make proper conversation with lotso, but I would like you to direct your attention to Muppets post.

All other stuff aside, the person writing the email to me from "Stelios" is the same person writing the Gman's posts. I have no doubt about that

Where Gman replied.

Yawn - This is beoming a bit much now. Anyways seems like there is just no pleasing some people. Whatever.

If I could be so bold, you did not address this exchange and rather glossed over the issues here. No offense but to some of those of us watching, there is definately something wrong here. Please stop deflecting to lotso because it just seems you are trying to focus on your disdain for lotso to avoid the apparently tough questions. It doesn't work that way. Forgive me for saying so.

There is definately something wrong here. We all know that. As I said before, honesty is best. I believe it's very close to request an official investigation on my part to the kind folks at the GPWA.

[theGman]

I'm sure you will agree that this whole thing is very bizarre, even for affiliate standards

It certainly is bizarre - ive been accussed of being a schill , working for Tedi Sagi , stealing etc etc , being another person - its not even bizarre its totally sad. The accusations that have been levelled are bizarre and makes me thing that there is a hidden agenda here.

If I could be so bold, you did not address this exchange and rather glossed over the issues here. No offense but to some of those of us watching, there is definately something wrong here. Please stop deflecting to lotso because it just seems you are trying to focus on your disdain for lotso to avoid the apparently tough questions. It doesn't work that way. Forgive me for saying so.

Thats certainly not the issue and i dont remember WJ showing disdain to anybody. What seems to be happening here in my opinion is some people banging on about issues that dont affect the flash games query . Rather they tend to be focusing on me because i stuck up for WJ when i thought that unfair comments were being made by Lotso.

There is definately something wrong here. We all know that. As I said before, honesty is best. I believe it's very close to request an official investigation on my part to the kind folks at the GPWA.

Go ahead and request it at the same time why dont you report me to all of the Affiliate programs that i belong to as well . Report me to Casinomeister , CAP , AGD all of those places . Seriously though , i can understand how you feel as you have been a long time member here. You need to understand how i feel as well. This has become Circus like with the wildest things being posted as fact , with not an ounce of truth and the problem with that is that people tend to believe it.

Bozcom1 - yeah i tend to say it as i see it and sometimes it gets me into trouble. I do tend to like to stay out of this kind of thing though.

Anyways - i am seriously done with this thread now - i have a lot of work pending , family issues etc to worry about what a few people think. Believe what you like , order an investigation - as you please . I am now done.

Good Day to You ALL.

[slotplayer]

Hi, there is no point for me to post anything here, I've understand some time ago that unfortunately I can't make a proper conversation with lots0, plus I'm very busy speaking with Playtech and trying to get some answers (and maybe fixes?) to the points made by Universal4 and Muppet in our forum page, those posts are important to me and WJ. So I apologize for not going to participate here.

By the way I'm Stelios, I live between London and Athens (Greece) and I'm in WJ since 2008. Best regards

Stelios, can you get answers to my questions while your getting answers to Universal4 and Muppet's?

thanks
slotplayer

[mojo]

Seriously though , i can understand how you feel as you have been a long time member here. You need to understand how i feel as well. This has become Circus like with the wildest things being posted as fact , with not an ounce of truth and the problem with that is that people tend to believe it.



Good Day to You ALL.

I agree and I am sorry you are going through this. It is a circus. I would like nothing better than you get out of this.

You need to answer DIRECT questions here.

First please. What is your relationship to Stelious? Stop avoiding questions please. Please see my last post.

[wagerjunction]

Hi Slotsplayer, yes I'm actually looking at your points, apologies I thought it was Muppet the last one posting there.

Dear Mojo, Greg has no access to the WJ mailbox neither he replies with my name, what would be the point of that since I'm online and Amy is online. I mean lets put conspiracy theories in the side for a while and try logic.

More specifically, re the commas, is something that occurs when pasting from Word, I don't know why but it does, and since English is not my mother language I prefer to use Word when writing big replies or posts or whatever, use spell check and the rest of the features, and then paste it (note: I'm not using it now).

Regarding the link, I believe Greg gave a pretty logic explanation, it is the first link when you go to Flash Games in Wager Junction, ask 5 people to copy a link from that page and I'm sure at least 4 will click on the first image. I use the same link in our website: http://www.wagerjunction.com/en-GB/flash-casino.aspx

Regarding the assumption that the link was taken via the Banner Settings area, anyone who spent some time in the WJ backend picking up links would immediately think of the same, I used a time-consuming procedure from our side to make the flash games very easy to link to and embed, and that is why they start from ad.wagerjunction and not banner.kingsolomons.com

And every time I or Amy emailed affiliates about these games, we prompted them to make use of the Flash Games area instead of the Banner Settings.

Regarding the rest, I blame it on bad coincidence and misunderdstandings, seriously I don't know what else to say or try to prove. And to answer the question made to Greg, me and him used to work together when he was in WJ and I was in the casino CRM department, and when he left I took over, he is a good friend of mine and an affiliate doing business with us, and I some times ask him about stuff I'm not aware of in this industry (like "who is this Sagi guy?").

Best Regards
Stelios

[OnlineBingoClub]

I can vouch that theGman is not Stelios and has no relationship with WJ.

And its fun to see some action on the forum today

[slotplayer]

Anyway I looked at the email Stel sent me back on 9/28/2011 and it did have commas but not the way Gman had them.
As far as the same game id, that was the first thing I thought of when reading the post, that it could be they grabbed the first link.

[lots0]

I am going to bow out of this thread as it seems the focus keeps being put on me and not on the questions and issues that have been raised here about wagerjunction.

The issues and questions about wagerjunction need answers and it seems obvious that as long as I am involved in this thread, none of those questions are going to get answered.

Greg, as far as I am concerned, your not worth reporting to anyone for anything. I just wanted to point out you are not some casual observer of wagerjunction, your an employee.

Greg, some people in the business seemed a little concerned that your still employed at a casino but telling everyone your not.
Personally I could care less. I didn't post in this thread to start a personal conversation with you or expose your little scam.
I posted here to stand with other affiliates and warn folks about what I think is a bad program, wagerjunction.

OK OK , I just couldn't resist...
Greg you say I am unstable... in one post your calling me a troll and in your very next post your calling me your 'friend'... and pointing out I got banned at CM.
So, I guess your just throwing everything at wall to see what sticks and what will derail this thread? Pathetic... really pathetic.

[theGman]

I just cant seem to resist. I am attracted to responding to this like a bee is to honey, in this case its more apt to say like a fly to - well you can work out the rest.

Greg, as far as I am concerned, your not worth reporting to anyone for anything. I just wanted to point out you are not some casual observer of wagerjunction, your an employee.

More nonsense from you Brad ,Michael and the rest of the GPWA team were well aware of my past with WJ and i answered their questions. I certainly dont have to answer to you

I didn't post in this thread to start a personal conversation with you or expose your little scam.I posted here to stand with other affiliates and warn folks about what I think is a bad program, wagerjunction.

Whatever you have posted is all of the same , utter rubbish, you confuse fact with your opinions quite easily it seems, probably one of the reasons you got banned at Casinomeister. It also makes me wonder as to who is paying you to stir trouble. Who is that little bird whispering in your ear Brad , why dont you let us know. Is it Tedi Sagi ?

in one post your calling me a troll and in your very next post your calling me your 'friend'.

See you are confused again - i did not call you a friend - what i said was i am telling you as a friend - im being polite , you should try that sometime.

So, I guess your just throwing everything at wall to see what sticks and what will derail this thread?

I know who derailed this thread with wild accusations and it was not me. I am perfectly happy to focus on the issue of the Free Games.

I know what i do for living Brad - are you sure you are on Planet Earth ?

[mojo]

I appreciate the answers and hope it all works out. Also those that chimed in. There are definately two sides here. I personally don't care who works for whom. Or not. Just that program/casino employees shouldn't be in the private section whether they are affys or not.

Anyway, good luck everyone.

[lots0]

...And to answer the question made to Greg, me and him used to work together when he was in WJ and I was in the casino CRM department, and when he left I took over, he is a good friend of mine and an affiliate doing business with us, and I some times ask him about stuff I'm not aware of in this industry (like "who is this Sagi guy?").

Best Regards
Stelios

Stelios, funny you never heard of Teddi Sagi, guy that owns Playtech.
Your company, wagerjunction, and and his company Playtech have been working working together for years. And you never even heard of him... BS!

Teddi Sagi owns controlling interest in PlayTech, the same software company your company uses to run your entire casino setup... and you never even heard of him... Kinda hard to believe.
But then there are a lot of things that are hard to believe that come out of Wager Junction, like 0% player retention and the stats.

Greg, you know I can't PROVE you still work for Wagerjunction as a shill, and that is why your laughing at me, but I know you do work for them and sooner or later the truth will come out.

Also like to thank wagerjunction for all the traffic I have been getting to my site since the 23rd of this month, so much traffic I had to shut down my site for several days. The 23rd was when Greg said that the conversation in this thread was not going to do my bottom line any good. Some people might get a little pissed off all this extra traffic, but not me... ;-0

Seriously man , it cant be doing your stress levels any good , it is certainly not doing mine any favours , and its sure not doing your bottom line any favours.

To all you new affiliates or people looking for a new program... Avoid Wager Junction affiliate program.

[blendtec]

This topic has gotten a little off topic..Can someone point me to where I can actually embed casino games / slots? I see http://www.onlinecasinoman.co.uk/fre...ino-games/Kong

I am only seeking for bet365 and playtech games.

Thanks,
B