Igaming.pro shutting down

[Amateur]

http://www.igaming.pro/en/

The Tradition Casino Affiliate Program is shutting down. They say their website will remain online until June 5.

IMPORTANT ANNOUNCEMENT 22th MAY 2010

Dear affiliates,

Foremost, we deeply apologize for this brutal announcement. Rival Gaming, the Tradition casino software provider is responsible for all banking transactions: our company has never had any agreement with any payment processor. Last months activity decreased because of processing problems both in U.S. and Europe that Rival Gaming did not anticipate, nor resolve.

As you know, the game industry is a sector that is both highly competitive and have unstable legal terms: first, our society can not continue to pay winnings players considering that player have received a match bonus on his deposit and that his deposit amount that enabled this winning has been blocked by a bank named X or Y... Until today, we paid all our players.

In addition, if your own players deposited and if these deposits are held by the bank, we are not able to pay you any commission, although, like us, you worked hard. We can not endure this situation.

Last, we can not stand to see dying Tradition casino by lack of support from the majority of our affiliates members. That said, we can not blame you, you expect a financial return as the fruit of your work, exactly as us.

Tradition casino has been created in order to give us the opportunity to prove that an online casino could establish a trusted relationship with players and affiliates, with transparency, and with all the love for this profession that characterized each member of our team. Therefore, given that we do not want to cheat nor "shave" your stats and/or stop pay our winners, we decided to stop the bleeding by stopping now our activity.

However, we waited several months before taking this decision, we also tried to find common ground with Rival. Unfortunately, no agreement and no viable solution has been presented to us, therefore we don't have any other choice but to cease Tradition Casino.

Igaming.pro website will be online until June 5th Igaming.pro, like this you will continue to access to your statistics and we really hope that, in the future, Rival Gaming will honor its commitments with you, better than they have done with us.

Although Tradition casino is already offline, your existing players can still continue to play and you are still cumuling earnings. However, please immediately stop sending any traffic on Tradition Casino website. Rival Gaming has already bought a domain name related to our name "Tradition Casino", so it means that Rival have a clear idea about the strategy they want to adopt with players and affiliates.

Our approach has often seemed unusual, we know this. There was gale of laughter and some conflicts as well; please keep make the most of this situation and do not forget that we did our best. Until 5th June you can still leave us your comments, simply send us an email : affiliate@igaming.pro

We apologize again for the inconvenience and we wish you continued success in your business affiliation.

Thank you for your trust.

Warmest regards,

Igaming.pro Team

"Better die a beggar, than live a beggar."

Apparently, the Tradition Casino will cease to operate. But, they are still sending out promotions to gain deposits. I haven't seen any email to players stating they are going out pf business, either.

Does anyone have more information on this development?

[contractor]

It is unfair to everyone if something that is scheduled to close down soon still manages to receive deposits. This is deception and tends to lead towards fraud.

[TheCPA]

Most of these Rival Casinos are just White Labels that don't have any "REAL" Money to make a successful bid in this competitive industry.

Yes, a couple of them might be reasonably solid, but most of them are just jokers that have a few bucks to buy the white label casino, but no money to back it. Strictly greedy egomaniacs that think they can make a bunch of easy money,..... cheap.

I'm going to dump most of the ones I got suckered into promoting.
Most are a total waste of time, and a huge risk as an affiliate since they don't convert, and as the above post states, what little you do happen to make, you won't get paid for anyway!

[TheGooner]

Never dealt with rival casinos - always seemed under-funded.

However, some recognition does have to go towards these specific people who have at least been monitoring their situation and taken action to close down in an orderly manner.

[Amateur]

Apparently, Tradition Casino is still operating today, but Igamingpro has shut down.

Must mean affiliates won't get paid for players they have already sent, and still playing.

Another scam. Here's the chat log:

Chat start time Jun 7, 2010 11:19:21 AM EST
Chat end time Jun 7, 2010 11:23:49 AM EST
Duration (actual chatting time) 00:04:28
Operator Nina
Chat Transcript
info: All operators are currently assisting others. Thanks for your patience. You are currently placed in queue number 1. The average wait is 15seconds. An operator will be with you shortly.
info: You are now chatting with 'Nina'
Nina: Welcome to Casino Tradition Live Support. How may I assist you?
Elizabeth: Hi Nina, is Tradition accepting deposits?
Nina: Yes, this is correct
Elizabeth: I saw a post where you were going out of biz on June 5
Nina: Are you having any trouble depositing?
Nina: As far as support is aware, this is not the case
Elizabeth: no, but I want to be sure you'll be around to pay if I win
Nina: As far as support is aware, the casino is not going out of business. Nothing was even mentioned
Elizabeth: ok, ty
Nina: Please be advised not to believe everything you read on forums or blogs
info: Your chat transcript will be sent to xxx@gmail.com at the end of your chat.
Elizabeth: ok then
Nina: You are very welcome.
Nina: Is there anything else I can help you with?

They even sent out promo emails today:

Hello Elizabeth!
As a Goodfellas VIP Member you can receive this promotion next week:

15% match bonus every Month : 15% Monthly Bonus Goodfellas Tradition VIP Club

= Did you already played your 15% VIP Monthly Bonus? If not, claim it now before it expires!

Not at home this week? Don't worry! Tradition Casino has also a flash version! You can play from everywhere you want... Click here or simply go to "Flash Games" when you are on Tradition Casino website!
More, don't forget : by referring your friends, they will receive $30 free on signup, and you will receive $50 free. Claim now to the Refer a Friend promotion !
If you lost your password, just launch the Tradition Casino's software and click on “Forgot your password? Reset your password”.
Should you require any assistance, please contact us at anytime : support@tradition-casino.com . Live help is standing by if you have any inquiries
Caroline Bertin

Support - Tradition Casino
E-mail: support@tradition-casino.com
Visit http://www.traditioncasino.co.uk/u?email=xxx to unsubscribe.

Another con from a Rival outfit. What does it say, when the most trustworthy casinos for US players are RTG? Scary, isn't it?

[Chips]

Looks like igaming.pro took a lesson from Grand Prive. Shut down the affiliate program yet keep on truckin' accept deposits, make money and f*** the affiliates. Glad I never fooled with these jokers.

Shameless commerce 100% shameless. "Let's build a player base by using affiliates, then once we get some players, we'll just shut off the program"

Nice, real nice!

[Professor]

Rival has no problem with stealing a brand and all affiliates and players from a master affiliate or consultant either. I think they are software provider compiling a huge player base by taking advantage of affiliates and investors.

[thepokerkeep]

I'll be adding a warning about Tradition Casino / iGaming Pro to my Rogues page.

[casinogod]

There are some very good Rival casinos out there that are well funded and operate decently. I suspect the one like this one which I had never heard of (says slot) probably never had many affiliates anyway. The rival casinos I work with treat us and our players very well. So I think it is much like anything else choose who you promote carefully and you should be fine and don't just sign up to every 'new' program that comes along. Check them out first and make sure they are sound if you have doubts then don't promote them and you won't have anything to worry about.

[Amateur]

There are some very good Rival casinos out there that are well funded and operate decently. I suspect the one like this one which I had never heard of (says slot) probably never had many affiliates anyway. The rival casinos I work with treat us and our players very well. So I think it is much like anything else choose who you promote carefully and you should be fine and don't just sign up to every 'new' program that comes along. Check them out first and make sure they are sound if you have doubts then don't promote them and you won't have anything to worry about.

https://www.gpwa.org/forum/rival-cas...es-189666.html

[thepokerkeep]

This is interesting...

With igaming.pro - Rival simply 'took over' the casino. It is Rival's fault in that case if affiliates are 'cut out'. Wish I COULD blame it on the program, but it simply isn't the case with that one. They made some mistakes, but cutting out affiliates wasn't one of them. _______________________________________ Guard Dog

http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...html#post16493

[Amateur]

This is interesting...



http://www.affiliateguarddog.com/for...html#post16493

From original announcement at Igamingpro website:

...Rival Gaming has already bought a domain name related to our name "Tradition Casino", so it means that Rival have a clear idea about the strategy they want to adopt with players and affiliates.

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[Professor]

Yep that's the game they play....

[Dominique]

I had high hopes for Rival when they entered the market - but again and again, they prove to have improper business practices.

Apart from that - conversions and corresponding deposits suck.

[kwblue]

I don't quite understand what is going to happen to the players who were tagged to affiliates. This time I think Rival has gone too far.

Now Tradition Casino still runs, but affiliates have been cut out of their earnings.

This makes Rival themselves Rogue, IMO.

[thepokerkeep]

I don't quite understand what is going to happen to the players who were tagged to affiliates. This time I think Rival has gone too far.

Now Tradition Casino still runs, but affiliates have been cut out of their earnings.

This makes Rival themselves Rogue, IMO.

Agreed!! That's what I was implying in the thread at AGD. If Rival is pocketing affiliate commissions in such a blatant way, it can't be ignored.

[Casinorep]

I've never heard of this casino 'til now. And as a rule of thumb, I only promote brands that are established and have some level of recognition.

I also find that Rival enforces a minimum of $2000 before affiliate commissions can be wired - and as a result, had to jumped through hoops to collect mine awhile back. (Not sure if this has changed or not) but it is definitely a deterence for me.