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    Sigmund Freud, father of psychoanalysis, would have big fun if he could read this thread.


    One quote of him is taking the biscuit: "The voice of the intellect is a soft one, but it does not rest until it has gained a hearing."
    Special Freud quote of the day for Nicole : "Time spent with cats is never wasted."

    Leopold

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    it shouldnt be tolerated at all and yes I believe we all have to deal with it sometimes as affiliate managers...

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    Martin I didn't read the stats wrong you stole from me just like your stealing from some of the people that gave you thumbs up in this thread.

    The fact your able to convince some folks(like myself) that your "a good guy" at the same time your stealing from them is quite impressive, I guess that's why you got the job.

    What a class act you really are Martin, to wait til I have signed off.. before you begin your little public attack.
    I wasn't going to post again but your posting out of context quotes and personal attacks was a bit creepy.

    As far as the so called "threat" to martyn... You make me laugh.
    What would ANY of you do when you come face to face with a person that stole a LOT of money from you at the same time they were acting like your "friend"?
    and that is exactly what Martyn does...

    BTW - if you work with aff active, and your sign up to depositor ratio is greater than 10(sign ups) to 1(depositor) your getting ripped off by Martyn... There are MUCH better programs out there

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    @Nick your f*** thief too... Your just pissed off I got the better of you.

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    gman - another aff manager for windows casino(supposedly retired) that got his hands on some of my money...
    I wish I could say I got the better of you, but I didn't you stole a LOT of money from me too. You stole more from me than all the rest put together.
    Shame on you.

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    I wonder how many more thieving scumbags will show up to take a parting shot?
    anyone want to start a pool? lol

    I guess I should not get upset that thieving scumbags are attacking me.
    After all, if the scum of the world don't like you... You must be doing something right!

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    Michael, please close my account here at the gpwa.
    I have no wish or need to continue this conversation.

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    Dude you are a class act and you are making a lot of people laugh (at you) right now. You message me late on a Friday. I was messaging you via PM from the dinner table at a wedding I was at on the Saturday and decided to wait until Monday to address it properly. You know, booze free with a clear head. You should try it.

    One thing I would really love to call you out on is this.

    I DO NOT WORK FOR AFF ACTIVE.

    As I said in my PM to you, you are so wrong you're deluded and you've convinced yourself that everyone is out to get you. I can only account for what goes on at AFFILIATE EDGE and if I thought for one second that we were a dodgy outfit I would not be working there/here.

    A lot of people who gave "the thumbs up" have met me. Numerous times and I hope that they see that I take my job seriously. If I didn't I would have been doing it for nearly 10 years.

    So to summarise your above post - all that relates to me (Martyn Beacon) is utter drivel. You have your wires well and truely crossed and you are so intent on being a martyr you don't even know it

    I hope you do leave with that as your final post - it's fitting to you. It's just wrong.

    P.S. Brod, my name is spelled MartYn. X

    P.P.S. sorry if my professionalism has been called into question here.

    Until we meet, maybe you can show me round your gold mine?
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    Can this thread be locked retroactively?

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    I find it extremely exciting, interesting and debunking.

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    Until we meet, maybe you can show me round your gold mine?
    I think he will invite you for the grande tour if you ask him nicely.

    I can imagine he is quite upset because of the current situation programs have difficult times and choose to shave more in bad times and les in good times, showing their tue colors.

    It is as bad as robbing a gas station for small change or a bank, once caught you belong in jail.

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    oh yeah I am not proud to be part of the gambling industry and the cheating, drinking, partying that goes along with it, its because I need to pay the damn mortgage.

    I feel I have to deal with criminals each day, with a few exceptions.

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    I do wonder how this thread would of turned out if it was an Affiliate Manager who sent those PM's to an Affiliate. I know I'd expect my P45, and rightly so.

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    I fully appreciate that he may be upset. However he should get his facts straight before accusing the wrong people.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE-Martyn View Post
    I fully appreciate that he may be upset. However he should get his facts straight before accusing the wrong people.
    never met you, never worked with you but I know you have associated with some very respected people in the industry that I have met and work with (no need to name names) so that will do for me

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE-Stephen View Post
    I do wonder how this thread would of turned out if it was an Affiliate Manager who sent those PM's to an Affiliate. I know I'd expect my P45, and rightly so.
    My two cents - this thread should not have turned out any way at all.

    I do not condone the PM's MartYn was sent. If he felt threatened (to be fair, feeling that way is appropriate considering), my opinion is that he should have sent copies of the PM's to GPWA admin/mods - and if he felt appropriate to the "feds". Alternatively, start another thread. Not that this is a big news thread, but the intent of it was to announce a sale and people began chiming in wishing him farewell.

    To speculate on how things would have played out if the roles were reversed... Well, that's just plain silly. I think that while I do not condone making physical threats to anyone, I also am making a list of those folks who I probably will not do business with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    never met you, never worked with you but I know you have associated with some very respected people in the industry that I have met and work with (no need to name names) so that will do for me
    I hope to meet you. At some point, and then you can make up your own mind. Like me or hate me at least you'll have met me to formulate your opinion.

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    my opinion is that he should have sent copies of the PM's to GPWA admin/mods.
    I spoke with Anthony on Monday. I expressed my concern and he was limited as to what he could do. He did say I should inform other AM's but I felt it would be better to inform everyone. Right it wrong. It was my decision.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE-Martyn View Post
    I hope to meet you. At some point, and then you can make up your own mind. Like me or hate me at least you'll have met me to formulate your opinion.



    I spoke with Anthony on Monday. I expressed my concern and he was limited as to what he could do. He did say I should inform other AM's but I felt it would be better to inform everyone. Right it wrong. It was my decision.
    I probably have met you at LAC before mate lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    I probably have met you at LAC before mate lol
    You're not sure though. Lol. I can't remember either

    BAC or LAC - I hope we can meet and remember it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AE-Martyn View Post
    You're not sure though. Lol. I can't remember either

    BAC or LAC - I hope we can meet and remember it.
    I spend as much time as possible in the pub across the road at LAC lol

    May do BAC this year as well, plenty of here can point me out

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    I will miss lotso. Good luck to you.

    It's few and far between the affiliates that dare to speak up.

    I want to kindly say that this isn't the first time Martyn has posted private emails.

    Examples:

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    Sorry, I just couldnt wait!

    How would you feel if this guy spoke to your staff/co-workers like this...

    This is taken from the chat transcript between Holkapolka and our CS staff member Lisa. What you read below is faily standard for this "player".

    Lisa: Hello, how are you today?

    Holkapolka: Dont false prestife your social life u auto line question how good i am today. hi i will report you to the shamefull energy, as you are afraid to release something that dishonours your within, MAMMA I MADE IT; you will say in your next life, MAMMA I GAVE OUT STOOL , something of my SELF, all these works and all those past great emotions as a child remember DONT LIVE IN IMPERSONAL RELATIONS AND HONOUR SOMETHING THAT IS NOT (!)LOVE(!) SANTA IS NOT DESTROYING YOUR GIFTS LOOSERS!!!!
    Holkapolka: **** OFF
    Holkapolka: lOOSERS
    Holkapolka: i risk loosing all my grands to kill ur soul
    Holkapolka: stupid dishonoured anxiety bodies of fear to release positivity cause of ur shame and dishonour of ur selfs
    And even one of mine. You will find the thread here at the gp if you look. As I said, I'm not comfortable posting emails. I NEVER would on a PUBLIC forum.

    I'm not comfortable with posting emails.


    Quoting webmaster@gamblingmojo.com:

    >Yep, I found it.
    >
    >The stats you mention were cumulative. So you were adding up all of our
    >brands but we treat them as separate. This, as previously explained was
    >a case of pure co-incidence and concerned two brands, Manhattan Slots
    >and Aladdin's Gold. Once I gave you the information on this I got the
    >following reply from you...
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    >"-----Original Message-----
    >From: Paulas Email Address
    >Sent: 12 July 2010 18:16
    >To: CWC Affiliates Martyn
    >Subject: RE: its mojo
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    >Hi Martyn,
    >
    >Ok, just wanted to be sure. Thanks for checking it out for me.
    >
    >Regards,
    >Paula"
    I never expect my emails will end up in public. Nor would I ever post anyone's email to me. It's a trust thing.

    Martyn has a history of posting private emails. Even mine was harmless but he feels he is proving a point. I get that.

    Just know that when working with Martyn, your emails are not sacred.

    Sorry you went through this Lotso, you have been a member since 2003, much respect. I get that we are going to lose it after all of the trauma we have been through with the theft.

    Wishing you well and I forgive affiliates their transgressions and affiliate managers as well.

    Peace.

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    As far as the so called "threat" to martyn... You make me laugh.
    I didn't notice a threat there either. Just something very vague...and could of meant anything along the lines of "we'll see each other in h*ll, heaven....or wherever and whenever".

    The others agree'ing that it was a threat...is laughable as well. Especially something so vague . If you guys saw the direct threats i've received in email over the years. (not just on the business end), you'd be crappin ur pants. Makes his example look like child's play.

    BTW - if you work with aff active, and your sign up to depositor ratio is greater than 10(sign ups) to 1(depositor) your getting ripped off by Martyn... There are MUCH better programs out there
    I've experienced the same, but will hold back on the subject... since AE's brand is unique / authentic and generally do have good signup ratios. Plus, I still have them in top ranking spots.

    But yes, my experience has been similar. Poor, long term depositor ratios. Seems like my players are permanently gone after a month or 2.

    I'm done commenting on this thread, and agree with others it's probably time to lock it up.
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    I've experienced the same, but will hold back on the subject... since AE's brand is unique / authentic and generally do have good signup ratios. Plus, I still have them in top ranking spots.

    But yes, my experience has been similar. Poor, long term depositor ratios. Seems like my players are permanently gone after a month or 2.
    I see the same poor long term player value.

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    I'm done. We've established that lotsO got it wrong and the thread is going off on a tangent.

    Time to lock it down.

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