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    Thumbs down Odd behavior from Google and Yahoo, have you checked this?

    For some time whenever I search in Google and Yahoo with the keyphrase "Casino", I found it really astonishing that they are showing 2 results on top, both on the casino film.

    Don't you think this is really very strange effort to keep internet free from Casino sites? Those searching with casino term are not at all interested in casino movies.

    Don't you think they must rectify this result to provide better search experience of the users.

    I am astonished why they are doing this. Tell us what do you think.

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    I just searched using the word 'casino' - on Google I get a good mix, online casinos, one entry for the film (number 3 position in the natural search results) and a local search entry showing me local B&M casinos. On Yahoo it is solid all entries for online casinos on the first page.

    This is from the UK
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    Hm, I have a similar results like Ray.

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    First, second - results touching online casinos, third, fourth - Casino (1995) movie. I have no problem with search results.

    Yahoo
    First - wiki page, second - movie, and next online casinos.

    I dont think this is an attempt to prohibition or something like this. If you are looking for playing on casino, you probably choose another keyword. It is like you type in "car" and are frustrated you dont find any rentals webistes.

    Thats my point of view.

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    Try "Online casino", Google gave me 37 million results LOL, but no mention of the film. (I'll be honest, i didn't check them all!)
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    My issue is that when i type online casino the other 37 million results are in front of me
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    You mean the other 36,999,999 LOL
    You need to do some promoting mate!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcollins View Post
    For some time whenever I search in Google and Yahoo with the keyphrase "Casino", I found it really astonishing that they are showing 2 results on top, both on the casino film.

    Don't you think this is really very strange effort to keep internet free from Casino sites? Those searching with casino term are not at all interested in casino movies.

    Don't you think they must rectify this result to provide better search experience of the users.

    I am astonished why they are doing this. Tell us what do you think.
    Hi Jim Collins,

    That's an interesting take on Google. I, more or less, agree with your words. Let me tell my experience:
    I searched Google with the word "Casino" and the results I got are:
    1. "Casino (1995)Directed by Martin Scorsese. With Robert De Niro, Sharon Stone, Joe Pesci. Greed, deception, money, power, and murder occur between two mobster best friends ..."
    IMDB site

    2. "
    Casino (film) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopediaCasino is a 1995 crime drama film directed by Martin Scorsese. It is based on the non-fiction book of the same name by Nicholas Pileggi, who also co-wrote ..."
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    News results for casino"

    From the 4th search result, the online casino sites started figuring.
    Frankly speaking, I can't shove off your claim altogether. If your apprehension is right then it is quite serious, I must tell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by patmcluk View Post
    Try "Online casino", Google gave me 37 million results...I'll be honest, i didn't check them all!
    Well honestly. Best you come back when you have

    I think it's great - if ppl search for "casino" wanting an online casino and dont get it, maybe they'll go longtail and come to me! Google should get rid of all online casinos the term "online casinos" too IMO.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcollins View Post
    For some time whenever I search in Google and Yahoo with the keyphrase "Casino", I found it really astonishing that they are showing 2 results on top, both on the casino film.

    Don't you think this is really very strange effort to keep internet free from Casino sites? Those searching with casino term are not at all interested in casino movies.

    Don't you think they must rectify this result to provide better search experience of the users.

    I am astonished why they are doing this. Tell us what do you think.
    I feel the results that google and yahoo are showing are correct as people who search a generic term such as casino are probably interested in who stars in the film casino, or what is involved in a casino (wiki).

    A person looking to gamble online will do a search such as 'onilne casino', 'internet casino', 'casino online' etc rather than a very generic term. Many years ago one of my own sites was listed in the top ten for the term 'bet'. This term received plenty of traffic but poor conversions compared to terms such as 'bet online'.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcollins View Post
    For some time whenever I search in Google and Yahoo with the keyphrase "Casino", I found it really astonishing that they are showing 2 results on top, both on the casino film.

    Don't you think this is really very strange effort to keep internet free from Casino sites? Those searching with casino term are not at all interested in casino movies.

    Don't you think they must rectify this result to provide better search experience of the users.

    I am astonished why they are doing this. Tell us what do you think.
    I searched "casino" and the first two results were for the movie.

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    Its not at all good for the Google also to show such unwanted results on top. Those with little knowledge of Casino can opt for searching the keyword "Casino" and they find google is showing some movie pages with unwanted information. Hope Google also check out this to correct this error and increase searcher's satisfaction. I also have experienced similar thing of getting low conversion from the single keywords but I want to know more about the step motherly behavior to the casino webmasters by search engines.

    Hope you too like to express your thoughts on it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcollins View Post
    Its not at all good for the Google also to show such unwanted results on top. Those with little knowledge of Casino can opt for searching the keyword "Casino" and they find google is showing some movie pages with unwanted information. Hope Google also check out this to correct this error and increase searcher's satisfaction. I also have experienced similar thing of getting low conversion from the single keywords but I want to know more about the step motherly behavior to the casino webmasters by search engines.

    Hope you too like to express your thoughts on it.
    Unwanted results by whom?

    Just because you don't want to see the results show links to the movie 'Casino' doesn't mean most other surfers are not interested in those results. I hardly think it's an error on Google's part. Using one word search terms is bound to bring a broad range of results. The more you narrow down your terms, the more focused the results will become. Google can't read your mind!

    If you are looking for results for "online casinos", search for that exact term.

    If you're looking for "online casinos that accept neteller", use those exact words in your query to obtain the most relevant results.
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    BTW - look at the number of results for this keyword:
    Results 1 - 10 of about 118,000,000 for casino

    118 million!
    Do you want to compete for that keyword?
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    I am not going to compete for the single phrase keyword "Casino" but I want to make the people find right site at the right keyword and make sure that Google must know the fact.

    I must say some site can also reach the top position with such a highly competitive keyword too.

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    I am completely confused. Maybe the language barrier is getting in the way.

    What are you asking exactly?

    Are you complaining because you can't get your site to rank for the keywords you are targeting?

    Do you think Google should change their algorithm to suit your personal search preferences?

    Are you complaining because affiliate sites show up in the search results instead of casino sites?

    Please be more specific.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jimcollins View Post
    Don't you think this is really very strange effort to keep internet free from Casino sites? Those searching with casino term are not at all interested in casino movies.
    Massive assumption on your part there. Don't mistake your personal tastes for "most people".

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    Just to give searchers a choice IMHO.

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    These are not at all my choice. You can check different data provided what really visitors want. The visitors are not at all looking for the film.

    Can you imagine one movie is being searched by millions of visitors? I think you must get the answer by yourself.

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    Oh, I think the right thing is to search for casinos rather that for casino. The first result there is some news. The second result is CasinoCity.com. My completely unbiased opinion is that I think google does excellent job in this case to return the site I'm involved with in that position!

    Michael

    P.S. I think given google's algorithm's it is correct for the imdb entry for the movie casino to come up quite high in search results. Same thing for the wikipedia article on the term casino. They are both very recognized authoritative sites with tons of good content and inbound links with very relevant pages in each case. I don't think there is any corresponding pages on online casinos that deserve the same positioning based on google's ranking criteria.

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