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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    but before you have never asked a member of the google spam team to come and manually check you site to make sure you are playing within the rules
    Well, as far a I have learned, link exchange does not necessarily mean that it is used for ranking purposes.

    People where exchanging links when it was not even an issue in ranking.
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    Here are google's guidelines on link exchanging. I don't think his site violates it.
    http://support.google.com/webmasters...n&answer=66356


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    Although IMO having any link exchange pages on a site is not a good idea when your trying to improve your SERP.

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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Here are google's guidelines on link exchanging. I don't think his site violates it.
    http://support.google.com/webmasters...n&answer=66356
    Hmmm, Ok I stand corrected...well sitting actually, but hey ho

    But then again, i think my link echange page is not excessive ..yet
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    I conclude that link building may be one of the most difficult things in affiliate marketing. Boy, I hate being a noob
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    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Here are google's guidelines on link exchanging. I don't think his site violates it.
    http://support.google.com/webmasters...n&answer=66356


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    Although IMO having any link exchange pages on a site is not a good idea when your trying to improve your SERP.
    a dedicated 'link to me and i'll link to you' page is telling google you actively go against their guidlines

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    Point taken. Have to seriously change that page then.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    a dedicated 'link to me and i'll link to you' page is telling google you actively go against their guidlines
    You forget the word, 'Excessive'.
    Excessive reciprocal links or excessive link exchanging ("Link to me and I'll link to you.")
    I don't think a hand full of links could possibly be considered 'Excessive' linking. But, I could be wrong.
    If it were my site, I would pull that links page in a heart beat.
    Like I said before, it is not a good idea to have those type of pages on a site with google's policies being what they are.

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    RIP link exchange page <=====> Welcome casino portal directory page.

    Just changed things slightly
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    Default Not specifically targeted by google!!!!!

    Please do not knock my service before you do your research as google does NOT automatically bann anyone when using link exchanges except for link farms which GETSEOBOT is not. For proof please look at my homepage it is a pr 4 also please go in google and type FREE RELEVANT LINKS not only am I number 1 but number 2 and 3 and I am only using my own service to rank my site.

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    getseobot is an automated link exchange program and those are specifically targeted and banned by google.

    Your ONLY hope of recovering your site is to completely remove EVERYTHING to do with getseobot.

    Then after making sure there is nothing that violates google's T&C's on your site, submit a review request to google through their webmaster tools panel.

    Then wait a week or two to see if google has removed the bann from your site.

    Oh Ya when you request a review from google... be sure to tell them your sorry, it was ignorance on your part... They like it when you grovel a little...

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    Default You are not penalized by google or by using GETSEOBOT.com

    HI I am the owner of GETSEOBOT.com and I assure you 100% that there is no way your website was banned or hurt at all by using our service. I have thousands of people using my service and hundreds upon hundreds of free people and paid with TOP 10 rankings. Here is one for starters goto google.com and type in Internet Marketing you are looking for the website internetmarketing.net which should be at #3 and if you click on the site and goto the bottom of the page you will see that the GETSEOBOT links are at the bottom. Not sure what happened to your website but if you come back to the live help on getseobot.com we will help you in any way we can. I checked for your website in google and it is not penalized or it would not show up for your domain name freecasinodosh.com

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    Default Goto google and search: free casino games dosh

    Again he is not penalized by google from anything that getseobot.com has done.

    goto google.com and type in the keywords:

    free casino games dosh

    Our guy is the number one listing.

    Next time before slamming any service please do your due diligence, you might be a self proclaimed seo expert but if that were the case then you would know how well my service is.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayakman View Post
    Next time before slamming any service please do your due diligence, you might be a self proclaimed seo expert but if that were the case then you would know how well my service is.
    Never heard of your service, but then again I never rely on a pimp to get the service I require.

    Tried to find some reviews of your service but Google only responded with spammy fake review listings.

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    Default Understood

    I understand that our service is not for some and I was noticing the same thing as we used to be called FREE RELEVANT LINKS.com and also BLACKWOODPRODUCTIONS.com and have been in business for over 9 years and yet noone is really talking about us on reviews but one thing you will also notice is no bad reviews either. It would be awesome if you could just try one of your domains out on our service and give me that overdue REVIEW?? Ill give you a paid 10 keyword trial or you can just try the 5 free keywords.

    Quote Originally Posted by Ixian View Post
    Never heard of your service, but then again I never rely on a pimp to get the service I require.

    Tried to find some reviews of your service but Google only responded with spammy fake review listings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kayakman View Post
    Please do not knock my service before you do your research as google does NOT automatically bann anyone when using link exchanges except for link farms which GETSEOBOT is not. For proof please look at my homepage it is a pr 4 also please go in google and type FREE RELEVANT LINKS not only am I number 1 but number 2 and 3 and I am only using my own service to rank my site.
    Funny, but from what I understand that as soon as your code was removed his site started to recover.

    Sorry dude but we all know these type of automated link exchanges are forbidden and hunted down by google.
    Your code is very very easy to spot. My bot spots your code with no problem and my bot is not near as sophisticated as googlebot.
    I don't see how it's possible that google is not spotting your code and banning your clients.

    I'd be happy to re-evaluate, my opinion and make a public retraction... if you can provide the name of any site that has been using your service for longer than a month that is ranked on the first page for any competitive search query. Yu don't even need to make it public, just PM me.

    added/// The PR on your site does not matter... Unless your using your own software.. but I see your not... hmmm
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    Thumbs up Did you even look at my site? We are not a Free for all link exchange!

    Please do not associate my site with THESE types of sites. The reason why you can find me is the fact that im not trying to hide as I am not doing anything wrong at all and GOOGLE knows exactly who I am as I have worked with them on different occasions concering our code on larger paying clients of theirs in PPC. I know very well what is in googles guidelines and we program accordingly thats why we do so well.

    Our process is one of HUMAN REVIEW for everyone that joins our service which not all are accepted. Once someone signs up for our services and have been approved we put them in the most related category that fits the theme of their website. Once they are made live they exchange reciprocal links ONLY with RELEVANT sites that are in their own category and noone else. As new memebers join into the system in their category and made live then they get a new free relevant link which is really powerful.

    Our system is not only about an automated human reviewed link exchange it really does alot more stuff like automated ranking reports and automated xml sitemap generation and submission to google yahoo and bing. The system also creates website structure and has AUTO SILOING built in so as you add keywords into our system our system creates relevant pages for you under your WEBSITE REFERENCE link which is like a directory for your keywords, everyone knows that if you want to rank for keywords you better have them listed on your site in a SILOED format (or maybe they dont).

    Yes I can provide you with hundreds of sites that are using our service and ranking very highly.

    Check out rankensure.com and look at the before and after rankings on that site and just to let you know not only is that site JUST USING OUR PLUGIN TO CREATE THE ENTIRE SITE AND RANK it but so is GETSEOBOT.com(you said I wasnt even using my own service) Look at the bottom of getseobot and you will see WEBSITE REFERENCE BUSINESS COLLECTIVE PUBLICATION SHARING and more which are our links and if you check all my inbound links the are from our SEO COMMUNITY.

    You can also check out the keyword TAX ATTORNEY on the first page you will find TAXATTORNEY.com (look at the bottom of their site to see our CODE).

    I have hundreds more of examples free or paid. You can reach me directly at 304.933.1944 for further questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Funny, but from what I understand that as soon as your code was removed his site started to recover.

    Sorry dude but we all know these type of automated link exchanges are forbidden and hunted down by google.
    Your code is very very easy to spot. My bot spots your code with no problem and my bot is not near as sophisticated as googlebot.
    I don't see how it's possible that google is not spotting your code and banning your clients.

    I'd be happy to re-evaluate, my opinion... if you can provide the name of any site that has been using your service for longer than a month that is ranked on the first page for any competitive search query. Yu don't even need to make it public, just PM me.

    added/// The PR on your site does not matter... Unless your using your own software.. but I see your not... hmmm

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    It has been a month now since the "penalty", and I did ask Google for a review of my site after removing the getseo links.

    I was also penalized in other search engines, but all is back to "normal" with those.

    I think the penalty was lifted 2 weeks ago, but since the panda 3.3, traffic is down a little too cause of the lack of content I think.

    My opinion is, because I did put a getseo link on all the pages of my site, it generated a huge amount of links and extra pages overnight, which big G interpreted as black hat link building.

    As this was the only thing I did before it happened, I'm sure the getseo service played the main part in getting the penalty.

    Perhaps I just used it wrong?

    Still, something happened after using the service, and I do will think twice before using anything like that in the future.

    But for what it's worth, The getseobot service looks good, is easy to use, and does exactly what it says on the carton, which is : build links.

    Maybe relatively new sites should wait a while with services like this, but that's just my opinion.

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    The amount of links that we added to your website was a total of 3 links as that is all there is in our CASINO category because we do not promote gambling sites so unless google will bann you for getting 3 links in one day then I do not think it was our system at all in fact I will stand 100% that it was not our service as I have many sites to show that I have added 100s of links in one day and they are fine. The reason that you can do this is because Google does not find or crawl all of those links the same day they are placed therefor it looks like you are gaining links every day as they find them. I am sorry that you feel we damaged your website but in my professional opinion there is nothing that we do that could risk a penalty and furthermore you dont get un penalized in 2 weeks time, if you were truly penalized it would probably be forever like most when they do something wrong.

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    Its not only the 3 links, but the extra pages it creates.

    Since I put a php link on all pages it created a lot of extra pages with the same content.

    4 links on every page, that create 4 extra pages per page.

    Since the site gets crawled several times a day, It grew massively overnight, which has caused the problem I think.

    And of course I am on top of rankings with casino and dosh, since there aren't many sites with casino and dosh in the title.

    So even with a penalty the site still comes up no1 in serps.
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    Don't participate in link schemes designed to increase your site's ranking or PageRank.... as your own ranking may be affected adversely by those links.

    Webmaster Guidlines

    I don't see how your service differs from any other link exchange schemes designed to increase rank... and link exchanges to increase RANK are obviously.. very obviously... forbidden by google.

    I haven't had time to check your claims, not really top of my list right now, but I'll get around to it.
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    FC,

    Thanks for all the emails outside of this thread and sorry if I came off upset but I think you know why now. I wanted to respond to your last statement and I wanted to say that the links that it puts at the bottom of your page all goto our file that you downloaded so its an internal link to a page so those links are not going to get you banned or hurt you in anyway as that would be like saying hey I added 20 pages today and google banned me because I had 20 copies of my navigation links on every page (SAME THING). I have offered proof of our service ranking sites without penalties and I just hope that all reading this thread will not automatically thing GETSEOBOT is bad.

    Quote Originally Posted by F.C.Dosh View Post
    Its not only the 3 links, but the extra pages it creates.

    Since I put a php link on all pages it created a lot of extra pages with the same content.

    4 links on every page, that create 4 extra pages per page.

    Since the site gets crawled several times a day, It grew massively overnight, which has caused the problem I think.

    And of course I am on top of rankings with casino and dosh, since there aren't many sites with casino and dosh in the title.

    So even with a penalty the site still comes up no1 in serps.

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