Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast
Results 81 to 100 of 115
  1. #81
    Kayakman is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    August 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default

    LOTS0

    I provided a book answering you and you cannot answer me back?? I provided proof of our service ranking other sites and answered all of your questions so if you want to be apart of this thread come back with something intelligent or as I said before if you are going to just knock things without proof dont post at all peace.
    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Funny, but from what I understand that as soon as your code was removed his site started to recover.

    Sorry dude but we all know these type of automated link exchanges are forbidden and hunted down by google.
    Your code is very very easy to spot. My bot spots your code with no problem and my bot is not near as sophisticated as googlebot.
    I don't see how it's possible that google is not spotting your code and banning your clients.

    I'd be happy to re-evaluate, my opinion and make a public retraction... if you can provide the name of any site that has been using your service for longer than a month that is ranked on the first page for any competitive search query. Yu don't even need to make it public, just PM me.

    added/// The PR on your site does not matter... Unless your using your own software.. but I see your not... hmmm

  2. #82
    lots0 is offline Former Public Member
    Join Date
    November 2003
    Posts
    886
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    299
    Thanked 571 Times in 251 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by Kayakman
    You can also check out the keyword TAX ATTORNEY on the first page you will find TAXATTORNEY.com (look at the bottom of their site to see our CODE).
    Sorry dude, I don't find that site on the first page for that query anymore... looks like it's dropping... rather fast.

    I don't care to debate with you over this.
    If people want to risk their site's ranking in Google, by using your product... that is up to them...

    Personally, my opinion is that any link exchange software designed for the purpose of ranking or PR is google SEO poison... and Google keeps saying this same thing and putting a lot of manpower and money penalizing any type of mass/automated link exchange programs that catch their eye...

  3. #83
    thebookiesoffers is offline Former Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked 1,764 Times in 1,009 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Sorry dude, I don't find that site on the first page for that query anymore... looks like it's dropping... rather fast.

    I don't care to debate with you over this.
    If people want to risk their site's ranking in Google, by using your product... that is up to them...

    Personally, my opinion is that any link exchange software designed for the purpose of ranking or PR is google SEO poison... and Google keeps saying this same thing and putting a lot of manpower and money penalizing any type of mass/automated link exchange programs that catch their eye...
    it's actually position 3 on google.com's first page, he isn't telling porkies on that one

  4. #84
    Kayakman is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    August 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Cool Thanks for checking :)

    Actually in some search engines its dropping back abit but thanks for confirming. You can also check the keyword INTERNET MARKETING you are looking for Internetmarketing.net you can click on the site and goto the bottom of the site and see our codee WEBSITE REFERENCE BUSINESS COLLECTIVE PUBLICATION SHARING and so forth. I have hundreds of examples on very hard keywords and some clients have been with me 6 years or more. This is not just about a link exchange but having Relevant Links helps, most companies do not control who you link to but we do because most individuals do not know what is best for their website and that is why we built GETSEOBOT.com thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    it's actually position 3 on google.com's first page, he isn't telling porkies on that one

  5. #85
    Kayakman is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    August 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default

    Getseobot.com has a 5 free keyword plan forever so would someone please pop over there and give us a try, I guarantee that you will come back to this thread after being on for 14 days or less and tell us that you have better rankings. Anyone???

  6. #86
    lots0 is offline Former Public Member
    Join Date
    November 2003
    Posts
    886
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    299
    Thanked 571 Times in 251 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    it's actually position 3 on google.com's first page, he isn't telling porkies on that one
    Only in google.uk

    In google.com(US results) it is NOT on page one...

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...N-OQsQKNiNGcCw

    US google results and UK google results are two different things...

    I assume the website is targeting the US, because of the wording... so being on page one in the UK for the term [Tax Attorney] ain't a really great achievement...

    It's kinda like being #1 in the US google results for [Kings Solicitors]...
    Last edited by lots0; 15 March 2012 at 11:59 pm.

  7. #87
    thebookiesoffers is offline Former Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked 1,764 Times in 1,009 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Only in google.uk

    In google.com(US results) it is NOT on page one...

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...N-OQsQKNiNGcCw

    US google results and UK google results are two different things...

    I assume the website is targeting the US, because of the wording... so being on page one in the UK for the term [Tax Attorney] ain't a really great achievement...

    It's kinda like being #1 in the US google results for [Kings Solicitors]...
    you've lost the plot mate, the link you've put up (google.com) it is showing as position 3

  8. #88
    Kayakman is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    August 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default Cant do a search for the other keyword I gave? Ill explain your insight shortcomings.

    Ok Ill give some more information for you so that you do not feel so lost. The reason why I see it number 1 and you dont see it on the first page and our friend above sees it at number 3 is because Google has thousands of datacenters across the globe and you can get different results from google being in the same room on the same connection but two different computers and get totally different results, this applies to browsers as well so firefox and chrome will both see something different alot of times. Feel free to go and check that out.

    Needless to say the client has not dropped down at all in the amount of forms they are recieving at all so this tells me that really they havent moved its just doing a google dance which im sure you have heard of or maybe not.

    Again instead of reading my website you have taken it upon yourself to come and try and just bash me again so if you wanted a punching bag why didnt you just say so in the first place. It is very obvious from your posts here that you are 100% caught up in your own mind and to you your browser and the top 10 results you see are at the center of the universe and we revolve around it.

    I guess the INTERNET MARKETING keyword you didnt want to look up???? You are looking for internetmarketing.net we put that site on the first page for that keyword in less than 10 days, let me guess you dont want to talk about that one because its on the first page right? Do not waste your time or others by posting your ramblings unless you are going to reply about this ranking thanks.

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Only in google.uk

    In google.com(US results) it is NOT on page one...

    http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&c...N-OQsQKNiNGcCw

    US google results and UK google results are two different things...

    I assume the website is targeting the US, because of the wording... so being on page one in the UK for the term [Tax Attorney] ain't a really great achievement...

    It's kinda like being #1 in the US google results for [Kings Solicitors]...

  9. #89
    lots0 is offline Former Public Member
    Join Date
    November 2003
    Posts
    886
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    299
    Thanked 571 Times in 251 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    you've lost the plot mate, the link you've put up (google.com) it is showing as position 3
    Your still looking at google uk...

    I have put an image up to prove that the site taxattorney.com, is NOT on the first page in the USA for the query [tax attorney]
    It may be on page one in the UK google results... but as I already pointed out, that is not a competitive query in the UK and any monkey could rank for it.

    In the US we can change our local google results to any locality in the USA by using our zip codes... So it is easy to see that anywhere here in the USA this site traxattorney.com does not rank well... you'll note that the image results I provided are for Beverly Hills Ca... the mecca of tax attorneys in the USA and his site is no where to be found...



    Also like to point out that your data center explanation was accurate here in the USA up to about 16 months ago. Your explanation is still valid for Europe and the rest of the google world.. but google USA has... moved on to... the world of G+.

    As you didn't seem to know this... I thought I should point it out again....

    Because of google's move to G+ inside the USA, the SERP inside the USA are quite different than the SERP in other parts of the world for the same query...
    I just assumed that someone who, in your own words, "was working with google", would know this...
    Last edited by lots0; 16 March 2012 at 10:40 am.

  10. #90
    universal4's Avatar
    universal4 is offline Forum Administrator
    Join Date
    July 2003
    Location
    Courage is being scared to death...and saddling up anyway. John Wayne
    Posts
    34,019
    Thanks
    4,556
    Thanked 9,308 Times in 5,990 Posts

    Default

    You state
    This is not just about a link exchange but having Relevant Links helps
    But the other day you stated
    Once they are made live they exchange reciprocal links ONLY with RELEVANT sites that are in their own category and noone else.
    And later said
    total of 3 links as that is all there is in our CASINO category because we do not promote gambling sites
    Google guidelines are very specific, and yet I will state I still do an occassional link exchange but I do so manually.

    A member came here with a question that they might be concerned that the use of your program hurt their rankings, and once you code was removed they state their rank improved so it is possible it damaged their rank.

    I understand that you may not want the long time members here to get into an HONEST debate and discussion about your program, but based upon what you stated above it appears your program is not a very good match for the gaming niche, or at least must be looked at with caution.

    Rick
    Universal4
    Gambling World Online Roulette Online Blackjack Live Online Games Sports Betting Horse Racing
    Casino Affiliate Programs
    Hosting and Domain Names
    Gambling Industry Association
    GPWA Moderation by Me and My Big Bad Security Self
    If an affiliate program is not small affiliate friendly (especially small US Affiliate), then they are NOT Affiliate Friendly!

  11. #91
    Kayakman is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    August 2011
    Posts
    16
    Thanks
    0
    Thanked 1 Time in 1 Post

    Default I still stand behind what I said, I am not following you.

    Yes our system is not just about link exchange but where as we only do relevant link exchanges they do help but yet that is not all that we do.

    Yes I said that once they are made live into our system that they reciprocally link to everyone in their RELEVANT CATEGORY after being human reviewed.

    Yes I said that he only got 3 links because we do not have very many people in the gambling categories as we do not actively promote those sites as most are refused.

    Everything I stated that you said back to me like I was contradicting myself which I was not ( I STAND BEHIND).

    Just because all of you guys do link exchanges manually that does not make it right from what everyone here is telling me and just because we have created a way that you can join a Relevant link exchange and exchanges links with all relevant sites does not make us a bad thing.

    Everyone that joins our system has full control over the links they get from joining the system so these links are enabled once you are accepted but very easily disabled if you wish to remove them.

    Yes a member came here stating that their ranking may have been affected by our seo plugin but thats like going out to eat and then getting sick with the flu and saying that eating dinner caused you to get the FLU.. These were all speculative accusations and that is why I am here as I have been in business for 9 years and have never gotten anyone banned or even hurt there rankings.

    I agree with you my program should be looked at with caution and you are right it is not for the Gambling niche so I should bug out. Thanks cya.

    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    You state

    But the other day you stated

    And later said

    Google guidelines are very specific, and yet I will state I still do an occassional link exchange but I do so manually.

    A member came here with a question that they might be concerned that the use of your program hurt their rankings, and once you code was removed they state their rank improved so it is possible it damaged their rank.

    I understand that you may not want the long time members here to get into an HONEST debate and discussion about your program, but based upon what you stated above it appears your program is not a very good match for the gaming niche, or at least must be looked at with caution.

    Rick
    Universal4

  12. #92
    thebookiesoffers is offline Former Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked 1,764 Times in 1,009 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Your still looking at google uk...

    I have put an image up to prove that the site taxattorney.com, is NOT on the first page in the USA for the query [tax attorney]
    It may be on page one in the UK google results... but as I already pointed out, that is not a competitive query in the UK and any monkey could rank for it.

    In the US we can change our local google results to any locality in the USA by using our zip codes... So it is easy to see that anywhere here in the USA this site traxattorney.com does not rank well... you'll note that the image results I provided are for Beverly Hills Ca... the mecca of tax attorneys in the USA and his site is no where to be found...



    Also like to point out that your data center explanation was accurate here in the USA up to about 16 months ago. Your explanation is still valid for Europe and the rest of the google world.. but google USA has... moved on to... the world of G+.

    As you didn't seem to know this... I thought I should point it out again....

    Because of google's move to G+ inside the USA, the SERP inside the USA are quite different than the SERP in other parts of the world for the same query...
    I just assumed that someone who, in your own words, "was working with google", would know this...
    so you are tinkering with the results to get the answer you want? go to google.com, type in search query and by a minor miracle as the poster says the site is number 3, just as he claimed. Im NOT looking at google uk, again I'll repeat, i am looking on google.com, not UK with no locations set

  13. #93
    lots0 is offline Former Public Member
    Join Date
    November 2003
    Posts
    886
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    299
    Thanked 571 Times in 251 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    so you are tinkering with the results to get the answer you want? go to google.com, type in search query and by a minor miracle as the poster says the site is number 3, just as he claimed. Im NOT looking at google uk, again I'll repeat, i am looking on google.com, not UK with no locations set

    Not messing with the results. If I would have set up custom search results it would show on the pic.
    (Note: If your inside the USA and signed into G+, you can set custom search results.. add and remove sites from the SERP.. but if I would have done that you would be able to see it in the pic that I was signed into G+.)

    I don't think you understand that if your in the USA you HAVE TO have a location set when using google search... you don't have choice.
    You can change the location, by using US Zip codes, but you have to have a location set and it has to be inside the USA, when your using the new G+ search results.

    The new G+ SERP are all about local search. The old days of SEO are OVER inside the USA... G+ it's a whole new ball game.

    If you do not have a location set for you by google... your not using the 'new' G+ and that means your browsers physical location is not inside the USA.

    If your outside the USA your not going to be able to use or even see the new G+ SERP(except in a pic like I put up), not even if your using a proxy.

    If you didn't already know this...your about 16 months behind in google SEO news.
    Last edited by lots0; 18 March 2012 at 2:14 am.

  14. #94
    thebookiesoffers is offline Former Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked 1,764 Times in 1,009 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    [/B]
    Not messing with the results. If I would have set up custom search results it would show on the pic.
    (Note: If your inside the USA and signed into G+, you can set custom search results.. add and remove sites from the SERP.. but if I would have done that you would be able to see it in the pic that I was signed into G+.)

    I don't think you understand that if your in the USA you HAVE TO have a location set when using google search... you don't have choice.
    You can change the location, by using US Zip codes, but you have to have a location set and it has to be inside the USA, when your using the new G+ search results.

    The new G+ SERP are all about local search. The old days of SEO are OVER inside the USA... G+ it's a whole new ball game.

    If you do not have a location set for you by google... your not using the 'new' G+ and that means your browsers physical location is not inside the USA.

    If your outside the USA your not going to be able to use or even see the new G+ SERP(except in a pic like I put up), not even if your using a proxy.

    If you didn't already know this...your about 16 months behind in google SEO news.
    im not even going to bother to read that as all I have said is he is number 3 in google.com for that phrase like he claimed, and he is. the end

  15. #95
    GCG
    GCG is offline Public Member
    Join Date
    February 2009
    Location
    Not here
    Posts
    1,293
    Thanks
    306
    Thanked 777 Times in 430 Posts

    Default

    im not even going to bother to read that as all I have said is he is number 3 in google.com for that phrase like he claimed, and he is. the end
    that is NOT true, he is not.

    Physical location is set by Google based on your IP, you have to change Location manually to view different results.

    Good luck.

  16. The Following User Says Thank You to GCG For This Useful Post:

    Smoking (18 March 2012)

  17. #96
    thebookiesoffers is offline Former Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked 1,764 Times in 1,009 Posts

    Default

    right, lets put this to bed. the fella said he was position 3 in google, i have looked at google.com and he is. there for, for me the bloke is telling the truth. whether other people see different results in different areas I couldn't really give a rats arse. it is factually correct that I go on google.com (no locations set) the fella's site is where he has said. all I have said is that is FACT and in a law of court i would be provern correct in my statement.

    to add some balance though I certainly would use such a service but......

  18. #97
    lots0 is offline Former Public Member
    Join Date
    November 2003
    Posts
    886
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    299
    Thanked 571 Times in 251 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    right, lets put this to bed....
    Fine with me... When you do finally get G+ SERP in the UK(in about 2 years), you should understand better what I am talking about.

    G+ in the USA and Google in the rest of the world is like having two totally different search engines.

    What you see in the Google search results, when your physical location is in the UK, is not the same search results that someone who's physical location is inside the USA sees in the SERP(Search Engine Results Pages)... for the exact same query(search).

    I'm in the USA and when I type in the query [tax attorney] into google.com the site is NOT on the first page... end of story.
    Last edited by lots0; 18 March 2012 at 3:26 pm.

  19. #98
    thebookiesoffers is offline Former Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked 1,764 Times in 1,009 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    I'm in the USA and when I type in the query [tax attorney] into google the site is NOT on the first page... end of story.
    finally the penny may have dropped with what I have been saying. the other fella never claimed to be on page 1 in the USA, he claimed for .com, and for me that is correct... end of story

  20. #99
    lots0 is offline Former Public Member
    Join Date
    November 2003
    Posts
    886
    Blog Entries
    1
    Thanks
    299
    Thanked 571 Times in 251 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by thebookiesoffers View Post
    finally the penny may have dropped with what I have been saying. the other fella never claimed to be on page 1 in the USA, he claimed for .com, and for me that is correct... end of story
    Hey thats alright... you guys call Trucks... 'Lorry's' and Elevators... 'Lifts'.
    No talking sense to you... lol

  21. #100
    thebookiesoffers is offline Former Member
    Join Date
    November 2009
    Location
    Leicester, UK
    Posts
    3,225
    Thanks
    412
    Thanked 1,764 Times in 1,009 Posts

    Default

    Quote Originally Posted by lots0 View Post
    Hey thats alright... you guys call Trucks... 'Lorry's' and Elevators... 'Lifts'.
    No talking sense to you... lol
    it's our language

Page 5 of 6 FirstFirst 123456 LastLast

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •