Penguin Rolling Out

[wonderpunter]

Seeing some big movements on US keywords, 97% keywords are up.. some by a large margin, traffic seems similar but it's still early .. could be nothing but usually do not see so many keywords positively move at the same time

[drslot26]

No big changes yet here,

[sweetbet]

I'm experiencing big swings. One day up a few pages, the next day the page disappears.

[Eddie G]

You guys seeing the big changes on long-tails or some less competitive words? I haven't seen any changes at all for like a few dozen of the big keywords in .com

[wonderpunter]

You guys seeing the big changes on long-tails or some less competitive words? I haven't seen any changes at all for like a few dozen of the big keywords in .com

In general, i am seeing growth across the board even some of the bigger keywords i target.. yet traffic remains the same however i noticed a small boost in conversions when I woke up this morning, at 4pm "usually when my quality data set is being shown" will give another update.. it could be that sites are growing and dropping slowly?

[dfiocch]

Wonder... hihihihi... lol

"2" got a +5% in traffic since 23/09
Damn, it's good!

Interesting:

Backlinks -> 181K
Domains -> 145 (lolz! 185K links coming from 145 domains... nice ratio)
IPs -> 137 (ok, I give up...)

Penguin works just fine.

[wonderpunter]

Wonder... hihihihi... lol

"2" got a +5% in traffic since 23/09
Damn, it's good!

Interesting:

Backlinks -> 181K
Domains -> 145 (lolz! 185K links coming from 145 domains... nice ratio)
IPs -> 137 (ok, I give up...)

Penguin works just fine.

Penguin is just rewarding right now lol... have you seen the bonus site with 3.2 million BL? Number one for all on scraped everything.. even ghost pages with just headers are taking top pos'... I have noticed bursts of organic visitors coming then going, also my old pages in the serps "i call it the junk data set" .. usually it flips to a good set in the afternoon... but I don't think the BH,ers need pop champagne corks just yet

[dfiocch]

... have you seen the bonus site with 3.2 million BL? Number one for all on scraped everything...

Of course. The top of the top.
He/she scraped 96 pages from our site too. A gentleman. lol

[zuutroy]

Decent bump in traffic, but must be for long tail because no massive movements in keywords I track.

[wonderpunter]

Mozcast touted a 113c hit... http://mozcast.com/ but SEO experts are quiet.. usually the net is flooded with winners/losers and how to recover penguin type articles.. so far not much

[TravG]

I have noticed many actual online casinos ranking much higher than they have in the past for many keywords and keyword phrases. I have noticed this is the case even if the page for the online casino is not very topic related, but just containing the keyword or keyword phrase. Not cool for our industry, we will be come obsolete!

[PromoteCasino]

For me personally impressions have almost doubled but clicks are down. I have noticed that for a lot of my tip terms a lot of newspaper and bookie articles have jumped in front of me now.

[casaffiliate]

"usually when my quality data set is being shown"

This is actually a very good point and would deserve a discussion on its own. I wonder if we will ever see stable SERPs again (I doubt it).


Google has been testing this Penguin beast for many months now and I doubt that what we have seen so far is anywhere close to what's going to come. They are still testing it. Real-time Penguin? Not believing it for a second. Why would they give link spammers immediate feedback on what's ranking or penalizing them? Quite the contrary - my guess is they will build in even more delays and obfuscation.


My observations since the 'launch' of Penguin 4.0? Nothing major to report so far (non-English markets). Seeing at least three different sets of results (depending on which datacenter you hit I suppose) but it has been like this for months. Some SERPs actually look more like right after the Phantom updates from June. This is why I think that they are still testing and tweaking it.


wonderpunter, zuutroy, TravG have reported some changes (USA I suppose) but it seems it's nowhere near the SERP earthquake that Penguin 4.0 was expected to be. Still early days. Let's wait and see . Would love to read more observations.


@PromoteCasino: Seeing something similar. Impressions up - rankings up (search console) - clicks the same.

[David_Allegro]

For what I know about algorithms (lol)... G has to recrawl the entire www before start seeing some "real" movements.

I was wondering about that. They can't have all of that data just sitting. Would they recrawl first? Like many others, I wait and see.

[allfreechips]

of course they have it all sitting.. its not a look today and see deal with google

[MMM]

Do you guys use some other tool to check the serps besides just Google and GWT?

[eenzoo]

Have semrush.com account but not really happy with!

[wonderpunter]

The best tool is your own eyes, incognito browser and a handful of majorly spammed keywords, if something is going to change that's where it will start. SEM rush is inaccurate probably the worst tool i have seen out of all of them, my GA and any of these tools differ by hundreds of thousands of visitors lol, perhaps they might have a rough guess on the top 1000 but with billions of searches and combos they are nowhere near accurate

[zuutroy]

Ahrefs is good but expensive. They recently removed mobile keyword tracking from the base package and somehow packaged it as them doing me a favour.

[gratisbingo]

i like woorank . c o m , its really nice