One year on and still a Google PR of 0

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Hi all,

My site has been live for over one year, i have attempted to keep it up to date with content in the hope that I will soon start to creep up the SE rankings. I am surprised to say that my Google PR is still 0, is this common, has anyone else experienced this?

I know Google PR is not the be all and end all of SEO, but I am interested to know why it still 0.

Thanks in advance for any advice.

Chris

http://www.blackjackchoice.com

[thepokerkeep]

Google has not updated the toolbar PR in many months so it's not surprising you're not seeing any change. Instead of worrying about page rank, concentrate on serps instead.

[GaryTheScubaGuy]

thepokerkeep is correct - in fact google has only updated PR once in the past year and a half.

Its worth noting as well that PR is based on historical data not current.

Its also worth noting PR is a useless metric - where you are in the SERP's should be your one goal.

Take that content you write and add links to it. Then create an RSS feed to your site and submit it through a few of the thousands of RSS feed aggregators.

[Nile Hadwards]

Google is not update their PR so we all have to wait till they update.

[SlotMonster]

I expected Google PR to be updated in NY, but it still haven't changed. It's time to start SEO and linkbuilding for your website, because it has just few backlinks and less than 100 pages.

[hastla]

I heard 2-3 years ago on several affiliate conventions from different persons (SEO`s), that PR is dead - I think that too. Plus it`s only available, when you install their bar or any similar 3rd companies tools.

When you install it, Google is "warning" you that PR is just for

ENTERTAINMENT

purposes - so in my opinion it`s unbelievable, that today Webmaster are still taking this as only index. I´m not a pro but I recognized that other companies created new "indexes" or "rankings" what are in fact more detailed similar PR-data (high priced products). For example: http://www.sistrix.de/

When you have a look on Christoph Cemper`s blog, he show you their software, what fetches up data from nearly every source (sistrix, ...) via API`s in their linkresearchtools. There is a casestudy avail. with the keyword: "cheap flights" - http://www.linkresearchtools.com/cas...cheap-flights/

He also mentioned that new more detailed indexes has to be used, because Google`s PR is not representing the market any more and is really no good index for any modern SEO. His casestudy explain it in my opinion.

[Avdhesh]

Google has not updated the toolbar PR in many months so it's not surprising you're not seeing any change. Instead of worrying about page rank, concentrate on serps instead.

Thats right, concentrate on building the links and rankings. Results are going to come friend.

[baldidiot]

What are link buyers/sellers going to do without their beloved PR?!

On a serious note though, I'm surprised to see that the big link buying sites or pay-per-blog-post sites still rely on PR.

[LuckyLizzy]

I was wondering why our sites went up to PR 3 and just stayed there even though I felt we were making progress. Is it true google has not updated PR for sites in over a year?

Where can we go to find a better way of finding out if our sites are ranking well in the SERPs? I have been using website outlook's scoring thing but I've been told that it is "just for fun" as well.

[Kasinoportalen]

Wow, that was new information for me aswell. I am a newbie, but I always thought Googles PR was updated fairly often. Oh well.

[WinYourWayKyle]

A good site to help you find out how your site is doing is called www.websitegrader.com - It is created by SEOMoz

It is good to find out factors that help determine how your website is ranked.

Obviously, alexa.com is a great resource as well...

[hastla]

I think every information data what is captured by various sources (paid or not - excl. PR) is also based on different views. I´m also not a pro, but read my last post here - when having a look on the showcase-video you will see what I mean.

When having a look on that, at the pricing of all API`s what this software use and of course the price of it self, you will see that the most of us (I think) can`t affort professional linkresearch from different sources. Also when having that money it will not bring you anything when you are not able to read that data.

But in my opinion, when you are able to use this software correct you are still a winner nowadays. What in the video is told about one keyword and some sites (research) is absolute unbelievable.

[unclebada]

honestly, all was said on the first couple of responses you got.
forget about GPR and focus on SERPs

[LuckyLizzy]

Thank you Kyle! That link was very useful and I was so happy to see that it said one of our sites was in the top 1.81% of all sites on Alexa. Not sure if that is correct but it seems good.

[jctroy440]

Poker Keep is correct. Don't worry about overall ranking because your competing with 3.5 MILLION other Portal Purveyors of Poop. Get your individual pages on the first pages of Google and forget about the site ranking.

[craig96]

Is it true google has not updated PR for sites in over a year?

I do not know the exact length of time but it is defiantly overdue.

In response to to the original question, forget about PR and do not even look, it does not really matter too much and also your PR will probably be higher now but because big G has not updated their PR in awhile you will not know your PR now.

[ck8795]

Obviously, alexa.com is a great resource as well...

Alexa is a waste of time and inaccurate.

[sg]

even i have my site running since last Aug, but still now no PR for me as well..

I have more than 800 pages indexed in Google, but not that lucky with the SERP rankings, any help on this would be great.

SG

[must]

Google updated the toolbar pagerank on april 2010. Few specific updates happened after that date, but basically it happened only to penalize sites that sell links (Google doesn't want you to buy/sell links, so this is their way to discourage this link building method). However, Pagerank never had any relation with the ranking of a website.

Alexa is quite useless as well. It starts to make little sense only when below 100.000. Above that value, it's incredibly easy to influence that value.

If you want to know how good your website is doing in ranking, check the ranking! (over time, so you can see the variations - but don't forget competitors are working too, so in case you lose rank, it doesn't necessarily mean you are doing bad: it could mean competitors are just doing better )


However, Google Pagerank is good for lazy ppl. That's why it's still used when it's time to buy/sell/exchange links. A good analysis of the backlinks of the website you want to buy from or exchange with takes more time, hence it's rarely done. What a shame