Sky Bet?!

[colin3005]

Stacks of affiliates are still pushing them. Affiliates who weren't on Rev Share. People didn't actually believe they are stopping affiliate traffic did they?

How do you know they weren't on rev share? The way some of them put up fake tips you would think they were on 75% rev share not 25%. Try asking certain 'tipsters' for their profit/loss for the previous couple of months, see how quick you get blocked!


The only people I have seen still pushing them are the exact affiliates they closed to protect themselves against, ie Footie Accumulators is one who has been proven to post non compliant ads and fake tips.

[Broadway_Simon]

The major ppc aggregators are pushing them..

1) Shut down program and save millions a year in rev share
2) Start new program with "Selected Compliant" affilaites

Result: Maintain or grow traffic levels by re-investing saved revshare on media and cpa and have "no contract" with the "non compliant" affiliates.

And still the operators who are trying to ensure affiliates run compliant content are getting destroyed on this forum because they are trying to sabotage the affiliates SEO rankings by asking that the run a pre-approved review.

[tharmon]

Simon I have found your details whilst searching for contacts within the broadway gaming group. I have tried to send you a pricvate message but as I've just joined I do not seem to have access to do that. Is it possible you can message me privately so that I can respond to you pls.
Thank You

[PGPICKS]

I would love to know how Football Accumulators are still promoting SkyBet affiliate links.

[mickyfu]

I would love to know how Football Accumulators are still promoting SkyBet affiliate links.

I'm not sure why people are still asking about this here. If you want to be proactive about the situation. Simply sign up to Sky via footy accumulators, lose your money, then complain to the gambling commission. Or get a credit card, rinse it playing Top Cat, then blame your child. Or you can simply pick apart their website and complain about any minor detail, or simply ask the gambling commission why Sky is still allowing such dodgy advertisements

[12Xpert]

or simply ask the gambling commission why Sky is still allowing such dodgy advertisements

You could do that but you'd be wasting your time.

"Thank you for contacting the Gambling Commission regarding Sky Bet operating as Bonne Terre Limited. From your correspondence we understand that you have some concerns that Sky Bet are still working with advertisements on a third party basis. We must be clear that the regulations governing gambling marketing and advertising are shared between a number of bodies, including the Commission, Ofcom, the Committees of Advertising Practice (CAP), the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). In order to have some consistency and to avoid confusion, we work with these other bodies on the basis that whereas we lead primarily on the regulation of gambling, other bodies lead on marketing and advertising. In your email you ask us to investigate this more thoroughly. In this specific case we understand that the decision to close down their affiliate marketing programme was made following an investigation from the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO). Therefore, we would not be able to look into this matter for you. You may wish to contact the ICO and provide them with this information in order to see if they are able to assist you any further. Whilst we appreciate this is frustrating to the affiliates that worked hard to build up an income through this scheme, we must be clear that operators are not required to offer affiliate programmes. The decision Sky Bet took to remove this programme was a business decision made in the best interests of their company and regulatory requirements. We hope this has provided you with clarification. Your enquiry reference is: 1-128527196."

Still awaiting a reply from the ICO. I don't hold out much hope. ASA and Guardian were tweeted repeatedly too. It seems an alleged changing of a tip result wasn't sufficient to warrant further investigation by any of them. None have so far been the slightest bit interested. Additionally, you can't prove FootyAccumulators are knowingly recommending negative expectation tips. Most tipsters genuinely (and wrongly believe) they are offering positive expectation. I suppose you might try to argue in a law court that any tipster should do more due diligence when it comes to a self assessment of their own ability, but typically tipsters will just disclaim all responsibility of losses suffered by their followers. Besides, bookmakers just love advertisers who send them mug punters. That why they close affiliate accounts when you send them winners.

[mickyfu]

You could do that but you'd be wasting your time.

"Thank you for contacting the Gambling Commission regarding Sky Bet operating as Bonne Terre Limited. From your correspondence we understand that you have some concerns that Sky Bet are still working with advertisements on a third party basis. We must be clear that the regulations governing gambling marketing and advertising are shared between a number of bodies, including the Commission, Ofcom, the Committees of Advertising Practice (CAP), the Advertising Standards Authority (ASA) and the Information Commissioner’s Office (ICO). In order to have some consistency and to avoid confusion, we work with these other bodies on the basis that whereas we lead primarily on the regulation of gambling, other bodies lead on marketing and advertising. In your email you ask us to investigate this more thoroughly. In this specific case we understand that the decision to close down their affiliate marketing programme was made following an investigation from the Information Commissioner's Office (ICO). Therefore, we would not be able to look into this matter for you. You may wish to contact the ICO and provide them with this information in order to see if they are able to assist you any further. Whilst we appreciate this is frustrating to the affiliates that worked hard to build up an income through this scheme, we must be clear that operators are not required to offer affiliate programmes. The decision Sky Bet took to remove this programme was a business decision made in the best interests of their company and regulatory requirements. We hope this has provided you with clarification. Your enquiry reference is: 1-128527196."

Still awaiting a reply from the ICO. I don't hold out much hope. ASA and Guardian were tweeted repeatedly too. It seems an alleged changing of a tip result wasn't sufficient to warrant further investigation by any of them. None have so far been the slightest bit interested. Additionally, you can't prove FootyAccumulators are knowingly recommending negative expectation tips. Most tipsters genuinely (and wrongly believe) they are offering positive expectation. I suppose you might try to argue in a law court that any tipster should do more due diligence when it comes to a self assessment of their own ability, but typically tipsters will just disclaim all responsibility of losses suffered by their followers. Besides, bookmakers just love advertisers who send them mug punters. That why they close affiliate accounts when you send them winners.

Thanks, this sort of backs up what I initially thought. This is just a passing phase, designed to screw casinos out of money, and fk all to do with protecting the poor innocent 65,000,000 children in the UK who are addicted to gambling because of the Pink Panther slot machine.

[freebetsfreetips]

That ******* panther! And Snow White. I heard about a toddler who has a £30k per week habit.

[mr_digi]

Anyone have trouble with their final months cashouts. We still have not received.

[seoghost]

Looks like Sky Vegas have lost their rankings in Google after I reported them directly to head of web-spam Gary Illyes.
Let this be a lesson... I will take you down!

[allaboutthebets]

Looks like Sky Vegas have lost their rankings in Google after I reported them directly to head of web-spam Gary Illyes.
Let this be a lesson... I will take you down!

What search terms have they lost rankings on?

Has anyone had an update yet with court proceedings?

Saw an article in EGR that said their revenue had increased by 38%......

[tufty]

When HMRC and the press start asking about your dodgy offshore company structure (not so 'bonne terre'), know where it came from . . I will take you down!

[mickyfu]

What search terms have they lost rankings on?

Has anyone had an update yet with court proceedings?

Saw an article in EGR that said their revenue had increased by 38%......

Absolutely nothing. Some people just like to try and make themselves look "Important" on anonymous forums for some bizarre reason.

Their revenue will have increased, they have just thieved millions off their affiliates. However it will only be a temporary increase, when it dips is when they will open their "new" affiliate program, and just take notice of the rats who run back to them.

[seoghost]

What search terms have they lost rankings on?

Has anyone had an update yet with court proceedings?

Saw an article in EGR that said their revenue had increased by 38%......

Hundreds. But the main ones... "online casino", "casino online", "online slots" etc.
I am in direct contact with Google and provided evidence of their SEO practices.

"Excessive link exchanges ("Link to me and I'll link to you") or partner pages exclusively for the sake of cross-linking."

I would suggest all these brands sending out aggressive "compliance" emails and closing affiliate accounts should take a long hard look at their SEO practices. They have all been manipulating Google for many years. Welcome to the jungle!

[seoghost]

Absolutely nothing. Some people just like to try and make themselves look "Important" on anonymous forums for some bizarre reason.

Their revenue will have increased, they have just thieved millions off their affiliates. However it will only be a temporary increase, when it dips is when they will open their "new" affiliate program, and just take notice of the rats who run back to them.

Do a Google search.

[mickyfu]

Do a Google search.

I'm quite capable of knowing when a website has been Google slapped, and when one hasn't. It becomes very evident simply by checking the site in Ahrefs or Semrush, and I can tell you that nothing has happened to Sky Vegas. If you want to pretend that you have single handedly taken Big Bad Sky down with your special contacts, do continue. However it won't change the fact that you haven't. Think I best leave it at that really. I keep getting warnings for calling people out on their nonsense. Do have a good day sir.

ps "Online Casino" Sky Vegas page two. It was never on page one in the first place. Do continue.

[seoghost]

I'm quite capable of knowing when a website has been Google slapped, and when one hasn't. It becomes very evident simply by checking the site in Ahrefs or Semrush, and I can tell you that nothing has happened to Sky Vegas. If you want to pretend that you have single handedly taken Big Bad Sky down with your special contacts, do continue. However it won't change the fact that you haven't. Think I best leave it at that really. I keep getting warnings for calling people out on their nonsense. Do have a good day sir.

ps "Online Casino" Sky Vegas page two. It was never on page one in the first place. Do continue.

You obviously haven't been monitoring the most lucrative keywords in the UK. Sky Vegas was ranking for many years in the top spots for all "casino" "slots" exacts and semantic variations in the UK. Like I said, I am in direct contact with Google's head of web-spam who has confirmed to me that the appropriate action was taken and a manual penalty for "Excessive cross linking" was issued.

[mickyfu]

You obviously haven't been monitoring the most lucrative keywords in the UK. Sky Vegas was ranking for many years in the top spots for all "casino" "slots" exacts and semantic variations in the UK. Like I said, I am in direct contact with Google's head of web-spam who has confirmed to me that the appropriate action was taken and a manual penalty for "Excessive cross linking" was issued.

Unfortunately for you, I do track keywords, Sky being one of the main sites I track, so your little "story" doesn't really wash with me. But do continue if it makes you feel special. Like I said, Sky Vegas has not been on the first page of Google for "Online Casino" (A term which you quoted) for quite some time. Also it is on page two for "Online Casino" I would not call that a Google slap.

I could be as petty to download all my Ahrefs reports on Sky and upload them, but I really would not waste my time. Some of the people on this forum.....ffs.

[seoghost]

Unfortunately for you, I do track keywords, Sky being one of the main sites I track, so your little "story" doesn't really wash with me. But do continue if it makes you feel special. Like I said, Sky Vegas has not been on the first page of Google for "Online Casino" (A term which you quoted) for quite some time. Also it is on page two for "Online Casino" I would not call that a Google slap.

I could be as petty to download all my Ahrefs reports on Sky and upload them, but I really would not waste my time. Some of the people on this forum.....ffs.

So lets play a game. We can call it... "who's next". We can all watch this in real-time in the coming weeks. Which brand would you like to see receive a manual penalty?

[mickyfu]

So lets play a game. We can call it... "who's next". We can all watch this in real-time in the coming weeks. Which brand would you like to see receive a manual penalty?

Lets start with an easy one, all Bede Gamings white labels casinos all using the same **** PBN. Pink Casino, MCasino, BetUK, SlotBoss, 21.co.uk

And we can all come back next month and see that Sky Vegas traffic is still as it always is (as of today 342k UK traffic going off Semrush) Which fluctuates give or take 20k.

And you call "Online Casino" moving back and forth to the 2nd page in Google "A Manual Penalty" Yeah right.