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    Yes was reffering to the estimation site, not the domain for sale,
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    I would be amazed if the domain sold for less than a million. I think it's worth every penny and more.

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    The domain is worth millions of dollars and is clearly one of the best gaming domains there is. Even $2,000,000 would be a bargain basement price. Any kind of purported "traffic" or "valuation" site is a complete joke and completely meaningless, as well, no matter how famous. Not being on page #1 of an SE right now also means nothing and is easily subject to change for this; also, though some would know more, from what I've read here it sounds like that may only be merely nothing more than due to how it's been used or *not* used prior to this offer. This domain is worth millions of dollars just based on type-in traffic alone and the quality thereof, and those who type this into their browser are not exactly looking for flowers or pet food - but for exactly what it says. In a good "climate" for such a sale, something somewhere in the $2 - 10 Million zone would be more like it now. Also, this domain makes Poker.org look like a joke by comparison. Virtually nobody by comparison is going to go to their browser address bar or SE to find "poker.org" unless a huge investment is first expended just to get people to be aware of it and know it's there, but lots and lots of people are going to not only type slots.com into their address bar over time but also search for it by name on their own.

    That said, I really have to wonder if this is the best time to sell. One could be thinking, it might become worth less if new gtld's come out, but I doubt that very much. The bottom line is that perhaps trillions of $$ and many years have been spent branding and imprinting ".com" as virtually synonymous with the Web, with net and org as merely much smaller "seconds" for nearly all purposes, and any new gtlds may only at worst actually intensify and accentuate the value of .com. More importantly, however, as the tide is clearly moving away from prohibition for the US market, albeit not as smoothly or quickly as we would have liked by now, it seems to me that this domain could only become even more commanding and compelling of a premium multi-million price as that unfolds. Once "prohibition" is over, this would be worth millions to just about any Vegas casino alone, let alone other parties. In fact, if the laws allowed it, this one would be worth advertising on TV in their national and regional commercials. Personally, unless I had a really good reason, I wouldn't sell now myself, but of course everyone's situation is unique and one person's best course of action now can be another's best course for consideration two years from now.
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    That was actually very well said Big City....and bytheway, welcome to the GPWA.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Big City Jack View Post
    The domain is worth millions of dollars and is clearly one of the best gaming domains there is. Even $2,000,000 would be a bargain basement price. Any kind of purported "traffic" or "valuation" site is a complete joke and completely meaningless, as well, no matter how famous. Not being on page #1 of an SE right now also means nothing and is easily subject to change for this; also, though some would know more, from what I've read here it sounds like that may only be merely nothing more than due to how it's been used or *not* used prior to this offer. This domain is worth millions of dollars just based on type-in traffic alone and the quality thereof, and those who type this into their browser are not exactly looking for flowers or pet food - but for exactly what it says. In a good "climate" for such a sale, something somewhere in the $2 - 10 Million zone would be more like it now. Also, this domain makes Poker.org look like a joke by comparison. Virtually nobody by comparison is going to go to their browser address bar or SE to find "poker.org" unless a huge investment is first expended just to get people to be aware of it and know it's there, but lots and lots of people are going to not only type slots.com into their address bar over time but also search for it by name on their own.

    That said, I really have to wonder if this is the best time to sell. One could be thinking, it might become worth less if new gtld's come out, but I doubt that very much. The bottom line is that perhaps trillions of $$ and many years have been spent branding and imprinting ".com" as virtually synonymous with the Web, with net and org as merely much smaller "seconds" for nearly all purposes, and any new gtlds may only at worst actually intensify and accentuate the value of .com. More importantly, however, as the tide is clearly moving away from prohibition for the US market, albeit not as smoothly or quickly as we would have liked by now, it seems to me that this domain could only become even more commanding and compelling of a premium multi-million price as that unfolds. Once "prohibition" is over, this would be worth millions to just about any Vegas casino alone, let alone other parties. In fact, if the laws allowed it, this one would be worth advertising on TV in their national and regional commercials. Personally, unless I had a really good reason, I wouldn't sell now myself, but of course everyone's situation is unique and one person's best course of action now can be another's best course for consideration two years from now.
    My friend you surely made me laugh , well let me tell you that money are not piece of A4 printing paper , saying that that domain worth 2-10 millions it is a complete joke! No doubt slots.com is a damn good domain name , but these days the name is not critical for a website. A big question that a buyer should make is ... why this "profitable" domain is been sold ??? if as you say people are just typing slots.com then the owner of this domain should be sooo happy that wouldnt want to sell this GOLD MIND.

    Take for example CASINOCITY not a very nice domain name as SLOTS.com , but CASINOCITY is much more succesfully and more valuable from the second one ..... do you want to take the same keyword ? take http://www.slotstop.com/ THERE IS NO COMPARISON with SLOTS.COM the first one is much more profitable , more valuable and surely a better investment.

    The point here is that the days that just a domain name had the same value as a piece of land is OVER!

    The story here is not that SLOTS.COM dont worth a great amount of money , but you people here surely are overexcited and overestimating the value of a website 14 years old and not be able to rank on the 3-4 pages in the search engines by its self , or not being able to get into the 100k of rankings in Alexa.

    That is a huge questionmark!
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    arisoftnet maybe you are valuing this domain in terms in terms of how much value it would be to someone like yourself. You are missing the bigger picture in seeing how much value this domain could be to those who could market it, brand it etc.

    You can't just value a domain like this based on its positions (or lack of) in the SE's and its minimal traffic compared with other slots sites.

    We will all find out soon enough how much this domain is worth to those with enough spare money to buy it.

    Personally Im more like you, Id rather have slotstop.com than slots.com but I can see what value slots.com has to others.

    Who's site is slotstop.com anyway?

    P.S arisofthenet
    You want to give you an example .... http://www.slotstop.com/ not nice domain name as www.slots.com but 100 times much better and more valuable website. No Doubt about it.
    Actually according to your web site valuer slotstop.com is worth only $735.86 more than slots.com Just highlights even more the worthlessness of the website valuer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    That was actually very well said Big City....and bytheway, welcome to the GPWA.
    Thanks, Rick - appreciate your post.

    Wish I had time to follow up adequately, but in light of the last post (i.e., was #25 when I started writing) just wanted to mention a few things. It's really ironic to me - so many people I've seen on the casino forums are so good at putting together excellent websites and milking traffic from domain names that would otherwise normally be considered not worth much at all, at most just "reg fee," and often even $0 on domain name forums that it's really kind of like the 8th wonder of the world that they can do this. And that is despite starting with domains many would normally stay a million miles away from. One of the biggest ironies is that so many folks have been so good at being able to find water in the desert so to speak, that it seems to have sometimes thrown a big sunblock over the "conversation" happening on the other side of the wall and kept some from the realities of the domain name industry, and the incredible value of top domains. It's not that such domains are the only way to succeed, or at least "do ok," it's that so many casino affiliates have been able to do something extraordinary and they often just might not even realize it, especially if they have not spent time fully immersed in the domain name industry.

    I come from a different background and perspective, and wish I had joined this industry much earlier as so many seem to have done. In my case, I started out in the domain industry years ago and not this one, though unfortunately I started fairly late at that party, too, otherwise I might be the one posting here about a name like "slots.com." So, being fully immersed in that industry for years before coming to the gaming table so to speak is where I'm coming from, and I definitely appreciate a great world class domain when I see one. And slots.com is certainly one of those - known as a "category owning" or even "category killer domain" (nice ring to that ).

    And it's not just one-worders that sit at the top of the game, either, but also two and three-worders, and in rare instances even more than that (forsalebyowner.com being just one, for example). And surfers looking to buy and looking to spend will also type the best multiple-word domains into the address bar and also search for them by name.

    Some of the famous multimillion dollar sales were actually bargains in my opinion, so I think it's often a good idea to bear that possibility in mind when trying to evaluate one up for sale. And yes - casinocity.com is an excellent domain, something I have certainly thought long before this thread, though it also seems that its success has more to do with massive SE dominance resulting from development than intrinsic domain attributes or the intrinsic competitive advantage that a more natural type-in domain holds merely by existing in the .com realm. A domain like slots.com has this natural advantage, but any "slotsblah.com" can be here today, gone tomorrow - one day on page 1 of an SE, the next day close to zero traffic after it's been displaced or tossed.

    I think the best thing I can do now is just point to what are perhaps the best and most famous resources on the Web which can give the best perspective on the six, seven, and even eight figure value of the best one, two, and three word or more domain names and dispel any doubts any might hold. That would be these three: dnjournal.com, dnforum.com, and namepros.com (sorry if any feel another favorite forum should be there instead ). One of the nice things about dnjournal aside from the great articles is also the weekly sales records.

    So, the bottom line is - Slots.com is one of the best of the best, certainly for the online gambling industry. If it were just even parked with not a single minute of development put into it, even then it would be like an oil well of continuous unearned income because of its natural traffic status and competitive advantage. Though you will sometimes find shenanigans and shady nonsense in the "appraisal" section of a domain name forum for less clear and indisputable domains, even the most cutthroat, predatory and dishonest people there will basically always acknowledge when one like Slots.com is unveiled, and readily acknowledge and admit its place as one of the best and most valuable domains in the world and on the Web.

    P.S. Was thinking earlier today - if the climate and timing were right, and "prohibition" in the US was over, would really like to see something like a sealed bid auction with minimum $x,xxx,xxx tried for this domain. That could really be interesting.
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    Like others here, I think the value is in this domain is in its branding potential, rather than for getting slots-based rankings in google

    The greatest value must surely be to convert it into an online slots casino brand, in the same way that casino.com was converted from an affiliate portal into an online casino brand

    If they think the US will regulate online gaming sometime soon, then maybe someone like IGT will buy the domain to launch their own US-facing online casino?

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    I somewhat agree with the people who are supporting that slots.com "right now" doesnot cost that much value as other sites in business. Well I do agree that its a good domain, but friends the time has gone, where only good domains with no google or alexa rank get millions of dollars in auction.
    If you ask me, you should hire some SEO professionals and get this site in good rankings in google as well as in alexa within the next 3 months. Then you even dont have to indulge in such a conversation on forums.
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    Edited: Initially I saw $1mm mentioned and i think that is a fair price initially. Since reread and saw $5mm and am in two minds. I think for a casino owner that might represent a reasonable investment over the long term, although might be hard for an aff to achieve ROI.

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    Going on the amount of debate of this domains value here its got to be worth a bit

    I would have to agree with Simmo. I think the likely new owner is going to be an operator or a software developer.

    It's a shame it maybe leaving an aff's property. Would be great if another aff picks it up.
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    IMO the doman is only worth what the buyer feels it's worth. What can be worth 1M to some could be seen as worth way less to others. There are some good pro and con views in this thread.

    I know the first thing I did was google the keyword to see the ranking and I did not see the value that was quoted by some, but that only reinforce my view that value is in the eye of the one interested and can't be judged by the one selling it.

    One buyer may have the ability to raise the value after the purchase and others may just rely on the name alone and be dissappointed.

    Good luck with the sale.

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    I have said it before and say it again , in these days the domain name by its self doesnt mean a lot.

    If it was me with 1-5 millions of dollars as it was mentioned by some of you , i could register the domain name www.IWishIHadTheSlotsDomain.com and with that budget i could turn this a GOLD MIND from Scratch!!!!! and not spent all these money on a domain and then to need the equal amount of money to make that name worthy , really a not an investors catch!

    End of story!

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    Quote Originally Posted by arisoftnet View Post
    I have said it before and say it again , in these days the domain name by its self doesnt mean a lot.

    If it was me with 1-5 millions of dollars as it was mentioned by some of you , i could register the domain name www.IWishIHadTheSlotsDomain.com and with that budget i could turn this a GOLD MIND from Scratch!!!!! and not spent all these money on a domain and then to need the equal amount of money to make that name worthy , really a not an investors catch!

    End of story!
    I agree 100% ,you can do a lot with 1 million dollar SEO budget....

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    I don't know why some of you claim that this domain isn't ranked in Google. I'm located in the US. And from my end, after typing in "slots", I could see slots.com appearing halfway down the page. And that is probably because its descriptions, content and meta tags haven't been optimized. Calibrate those and you'll see this domain appearing at the top of the page for keyword "slots" in no time.

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    Default Slots.com Auction Date is August 28th

    Slots.com Auction News:

    The auction of slots.com will take place on Wednesday, April 28th.

    All parties interested in participating must submit the following to auction@slots.com by Friday, April 23.

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    Terms of the auction will be emailed to participants on Monday, April 26th.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristinaSlots View Post
    Slots.com Auction News:

    The auction of slots.com will take place on Wednesday, August 28th.

    All parties interested in participating must submit the following to auction@slots.com by Friday, August 23.

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    Terms of the auction will be emailed to participants on Monday, August 26th.
    August ????????????

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    Default sorry for the confusion - the auction is APRIL 28th, not August

    Slots.com Auction News:

    The auction of slots.com will take place on Wednesday, April 28th.

    All parties interested in participating must submit the following to auction@slots.com by Friday, April 23.

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    Terms of the auction will be emailed to participants on Monday, April 26th.


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    Quote Originally Posted by ChristinaSlots View Post
    Slots.com Auction News:

    The auction of slots.com will take place on Wednesday, April 28th.

    All parties interested in participating must submit the following to auction@slots.com by Friday, April 23.

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    Terms of the auction will be emailed to participants on Monday, April 26th.

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/29869015...?ref=fp_feat_9

    http://www.etsy.com/listing/29869015...?ref=fp_feat_9 ?????

    what does that link have to do with the auction ??

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