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[Roulette Zeitung]

Recognition for [...] Active Members

Everybody knows the list.
My rankings the last six months:

August 2013: Place 5
July 2013: Place 3
June 2013: Place 3
May 2013: Place 2
April 2013: Place 3
March 2013: Place 28

And after investing hours, days i received yesterday two long PMs with a content, that is unbelievable, the 2nd 100 times more then the 1st.

It's very hard for me, but i stay true to my principles and make never any PM public.

I am amazed at the possibilities of deceptive illusions about one person.

This forum works only for money, and normal writing users are only added embellishment.

We have election today her in Bavaria / Germany. Many people don't vote because they want to protest. This is not good, because the possibility to vote is a human right and most people on earth can't use this right.

But if you want to protest e.g. against a newspaper, because they censor or against a restaurant because the boss is treating you, YOU, there you bring the money, then you can protest in not buying the newspaper and leaving the restaurant.

It's sad, but money is the only ice cream that taste, the only word that counts and the reason why forums like this exist. As long as money counts, there is no independence, never!

And after these two PMs, i know it more then ever before.

August 2013: Place 5
July 2013: Place 3
June 2013: Place 3
May 2013: Place 2
April 2013: Place 3
March 2013: Place 28

How you handle in the background a top writing user, is really, ...i can't find words for it.

And for your unbelievable cheekily short 3rd PM, where i am asking me, why I must do YOUR job?, i can give you the answer here:

The German word for "resolved" is not "entschlossen" as i wrote in the thread.
"Entschlossen" means "resolute".
The German word for "resolved" is "geklärt".
If you have no "ä" on your U.S. keyboard, then hold the "ALT" key and enter "132" on the number block at the right site of the keyboard.

You see: This answer you can have at every time at the day without beeing unfriendly.

After i told my wife today what happened yesterday, after i read her the content of the PMs, she just shrug her shoulders and said i quote: "Jeder muss nach seiner Fasson selig werden." (In English: Each must live as he sees fit.)

This forum without writing members is an empty place, and no more money can earned for a handful people. The normal writing users are earning 0 (in words ZERO). My family doesn't needed a forum in the past to find a good affiliate company to work with.

Newspaper, restaurant, forum...

If you ask a cook who is the most important person, then the only answer can be: The frequenter.

Then ask you the next days and weeks: Who is the most important person in a forum like this?
One hint: Not the sponsors.

Now i go back to my wife. She's never nasty, unfriendly, onesided or shortsighted. The most wonderful person i found in my life and always a good counselor for me.

Leopold

[Anthony]

Each must live as he sees fit ~ Wise words.

The fact is, we do have rules in the forum, having these does not mean you have to change who you are or live how you see fit. It just means the forum does have rules that apply to all members . Informing you of them was not meant to be nasty, unfriendly, one sided or shortsighted.

[-Shay-]

I'm going to use this thread instead of starting another one, as this thread seems to be the most appropriate place to post my question/concern for more than one reason.

What in the world is going on here? We were all given some "wise advice" to ask probing questions and not jump to conclusions on things...

With that in mind, is it my imagination or has a whole lot of posts related to Club Gold Casino (and their numerous unethical policies, procedures, actions, and really just the shady way they roll) been either edited to reflect them in a more favourable light or straight up removed? I could have sworn that "Dino" has more than one post to his name and I think I recall that there were other posts that were not anywhere near "inflammatory" in nature that were edited or removed - but I can't swear to that.

If I am correct in whole or in part, can someone please help me understand why this is so that I can draw a proper conclusion instead of a premature one?

[Roulette Zeitung]

Hello -shay-,

it's really unbelievable what i received today. I don't want to write it twice. You can read it and my final words here: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/problem-g...tml#post732966

Leopold

[Sergej_AGR]

Every webmaster must protect paying customers to a certain extent...

I really dont want to attack you RouletteZeitung. But you posted very frequently in several threads about CGC last days. Maybe a bit too much... Then the mods/admins had to pull the reigns... Maybe both side should need to find a middle course.

This is not meant as critic, I like your status as the Robin Hood of scammed affiliates and customers.

As you like german quotes, I use this one for you "Was juckts die deutsche Eiche, wenn sich die Sau dran reibt...."
=> "Does the german moon care when dogs bark at it."

regards,
Sergej (ausm Ruhrpott)

[-Shay-]

Every webmaster must protect paying customers to a certain extent...

I strongly disagree with your above statement and will post why exactly I disagree AFTER I receive "official" responses to post #43 in this thread and in post #88 in the Club Gold failed to protect admitted problem gambler, cheating him out of 75K in the process post.

(note - couldn't remember the exact title of that thread, as the furnature seems to have been rearranged quite a bit today to the point that I almost do not recognize this place.)

[Roulette Zeitung]

Hallo Sergej,

This is not meant as critic, I like your status as the Robin Hood of scammed affiliates and customers.

As you like german quotes, I use this one for you "Was juckts die deutsche Eiche, wenn sich die Sau dran reibt...."
=> "Does the german moon care when dogs bark at it."

regards,
Sergej (ausm Ruhrpott)

thank you very much. This quote is really full of power and hit the nail on the head, gives me back a disarming smile.
"ausm Ruhrpott"
Liebe Grüße zu euch, die ihr noch das Herz am rechten Fleck aber auch auf der Zunge trägt. (Best whishes to you all, with the heart in the right place but wearing it on the sleeve too.)



Hello -shay-,

couldn't remember the exact title of that thread

the original title of the thread was:


Severe complaint against Club Gold Casino (amount: 75k Euro)

(You can see and proof it until next Google serps update (tomorrow?): http://www.google.de/search?client=o...unt:+75k+Euro)

The title was changed to:

Problem gambling based demand to reinstate lost winnings of 75k

Missing any red? This is a sober information. I hope, giving -shay- it is allowed?

Leopold

[-Shay-]

I'm starting to believe that I'm not important enough to receive timely, accurate answers to my numerous questions or concerns regarding the pampering Club Gold Casino has been receiving from some of the Powers that Be.

I have a few questions/concerns that are a bit over 24 hours old in terms of the most recent times they were expressed. I had faith that they'd be addressed and explained. Was that faith misplaced or bumped aside by a platinum fist? Does approval need to come from "Mars" in order to address my questions & concerns?

[Roulette Zeitung]

Hello shay,

answers to my numerous questions or concerns regarding the pampering Club Gold Casino

i can understand your concern. After an unbelievable chat with Club Gold Casino today more then before.

You can read the full chat protocol here: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/problem-g...tml#post733477

Have a nice evening!

Leopold

[Roulette Zeitung]

Democracy thrives on the active participation. The commitment to persuade others to change their thoughts, is the quintessence of democracy.

In the moment, rules are amended so that one side will be restricted and the other side still can act as he want, democracy finally died and you have a system of censorship.

Moreover, if the restricted side shows arguments, is showing quotes from other people, tries to change the thoughts of others, which is, of course, perfectly legitimate in a democracy, and the side who is not restricted, is still allowed to insult people in public without any rebuke, then this has nothing to do with independence. It produce only sadness.

Today i was censored in full, not a part, in full! My opinion: Far-fetched to protect Club Gold, a Platinum sponsor, at any cost. I have done nothing wrong, not insult somebody, no attack.

But obviously the commitment to persuade others to change their thoughts is reason enough to protect the side that pays.

You can call me a liar, but then you have to proof it and make my post public again. I have done nothing wrong. I am a democratic man, have held many positions in my life and how somebody is asking for votes, should be left to himself, if democracy and independence is more than lip service, because the members of the forum are adults and no children.

It's no question, that if a user have tried to change my thoughts for a vote, nothing has happened, because the insults and accuses of the Club Gold casino manager against other programs, players and critical voices are still alive without any comment from the Directorate.

This is as long no insurmountable problem as the other side will not be censored with harmless posts. Since today this is no longer the case.

Leopold

[MichaelCorfman]

Leopold,

The feedback we have from quite a number of folks is that they consider you to be rude to others in these forums. And that is the opinion of more folks than you might imagine. However, we have almost always let you have the freedom to express what you wish to say, and have frequently done that in situations where we viewed what you said was not true or was overstated.

But when you specifically belittle the vote of a private member, that goes beyond what is acceptable by even my liberal definition of acceptable behavior. Votes are private matters, and are not appropriately the subject of ridicule when you disagree with the vote cast.

You have the choice of accepting that decision, or of deciding that you do not wish to participate here. But you do not have the right in this forum to critique the votes of others.

This forum is run for the benefit of the private members and the sponsor programs. Everyone else is here as a guest. As a guest I certainly recognize that you have made a number of valuable contributions, but you have also been obnoxious in a way that should not be tolerated either. You have been told many times that your behavior is rude, and you continue to act in an uncivil fashion. And then when someone else gets upset and responds in kind, you call it out as if it is something you have never done yourself. Shame on you for being a hypocrite.

Michael

[Roulette Zeitung]

I received last night 4 and let's say a half email because of the censored post.
They have read the original post on what way ever. They got it not from me.
At least one of them never will post again here in this forum because of what happened.
For fear of reprisals, that i can understand, they write to me directly.
What i have read from then was very encouraging and far away from personal attacks like :"Shame on you for being a hypocrite."
Michael, this is the way you see things. I can live with that.

As long as you allow the formal Club Gold casino manager DinoG, who wants to remain anonymous, to insult as a lump sum on the lowest level other people and affiliate programs in public in this forum, and we are talking about a lot of people, and deleting on the other side posts to protect your sponsor Club Gold, as long you can write what you want, in which way you want, accusing me "being a hypocrite", things are the way they are.

Ask Anthony, what i have done (not only) in the background again and again for a special sponsor i do not work with to protect them. Oh, it's not a Platinum sponsor, that pays a lot. But i don't look at the status of somebody or how much he is paying. Don't tell me anything about moral principles. Money has nothing to do with moral. I don't need to receive money for helping other people. My conviction decides.

And it will remain my conviction until the end of my live, that the commitment to persuade others to change their thoughts, which is, of course, perfectly legitimate in a democracy, is the quintessence of democracy, and how somebody is asking for votes, should be left to himself, because i have held many positions in my life, was elected many times from private persons without taking or giving them money.

Dear reader, did you ever see an election, not only politics, any election, where the parties, candidates or voters speaking together only in a way like "Yes Sir, Thank You Sir, You are right Sir, Don't change your vote Sir, My vote is your vote Sir, I love you Sir, Do you want my cake Sir?"

I have not seen any such thing.

Leopold

[Roulette Zeitung]

I received today an infraction because of my conviction, my understanding of democracy and of course because of the role of Club Gold "Casino" in this forum, the general insult of the formal casino manager, who wants to remain anonymous, against other affiliate programs and critical voices, that i don't accept. And because of the hearsay, the abusing of a specific player issue, breaking international law, the missing proves, all these things.

As a person elected many times in his life, i know what i am talking about.

If i receive an infraction because of my conviction, then i stand by it.

It's easy to quick delete a post, insult me public as a "hypocrite" and sent me after some days an infraction accusing me that i have insulted somebody.

Fair do's?
An illusion.

Argumentum ad ignorantiam!

Leopold

[Roulette Zeitung]

Dear ladies and gentlemen,

following intensive discussions with my personal physician, my wife and our pets i have decided no longer be annoyed by some people or certain circumstances.

No, indeed. i have decided to in future only do what i really enjoy e.g. creating fan made trailers for some people in the industry like Europartners (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/enjoy-you...tml#post739618) or Stargames Affiliate (https://www.gpwa.org/forum/act-model...tml#post739616), because this is the way of my family to show the highest esteem. Lifetime is a gift and should not only be a gift for yourself. You can share it.

If you give with your acting only a handful of people a merry mood for 5 minutes, then this is worth more than many other things, wasting lifetime with.

Of course, if i see, that e.g. a program is teasing small webmasters with the terms, i will open my mouth, because firstly, my heart beats for ordinary people. The two-faced people easy to find and debunk here in this forum i will ignore and scroll down their posts.

Thank you for your attention.

Leopold

[Roulette Zeitung]

Hello Anthony,

i am writing into this thread because then you will get a copy of this automaticly via email because you have written into this thread until it will be censored again.

Some hours ago this sponsor (https://www.gpwa.org/member/elainegardiner) have reported a post of me.
It was about the Malta law in the chatter box.
Very interesting, that public law will be censored in this forum!
Now it's censored.
Two posts are censored.
No problem.
I will sent you copies via email and call you maybe next week before i start to make these heavy censorship public on some independent places.

Leopold

[Roulette Zeitung]

Hello Anthony,

my email will go out to you in latest 50 minutes. If you don't receive it, then please sent me one back. You know my email adress.

You will understand, that if positive feedback to Europartners, a Platinum sponsor i work with in a very successfully and friendly way since many years will be manipulated by isolation and if evidences, screenshots of the public words of law of Malta and a public link to the Parliamentary Secretariat for Justice in the Office of the Prime Minister in Malta (Mainpage: http://www.justiceservices.gov.mt/LO...27&mode=chrono) will be censored, only because it's Cherry's Affiliates whish, then this is so unbelievable, that i will now take the weekend and spent my time with things, that are really free!

Because of our history, censorship for German people is one of the most evil things of the world.

Leopold

[ElaineGardiner]

Hi Leopold.

I am active on the forum, please free to contact me directly, publicly or via PM should you have any issues, I am more than happy to answer anything.

Before you start assuming the reason I reported the post and this turns into something more than it needs to be it was because I (personally) felt you were derailing the thread of the conversion.

Or should Anthony wish to contact me, I am always available.

Kind regards,
Elaine

[Roulette Zeitung]

Dear Lady,

you have to know, that I a) never lie, b) always write with open shutters and c) don't like ... no, that's wrong ... don't accept in general censorship anywhere in the world because of my country's history and don't like things that happened behind the back.

You have reported a post in the chatter box with the result, that another post, that was linked, with the public words of law will be removed from the public view too.

Cherry Affiliates was totally irrelevant for me until this day. In Germany your brands have a low importance, because Slots and Lotto are not the favorite games here. I am 16 years in the business and know exactly, what's going on in my country. Never read a post in full from you before or in your area here until this day, because if i would do, then i never come to sleep.

I take care for Star Games Affiliate, because Nicole Sims is one of the nicest casino affiliate representatives ever seen. Don't work for this company, because my target group are roulette players, but i invest my time in helping her in this forum to get some posts, attention. Why not?

I fight for Europartners, because we are working for them since many years with a lot of success and happyness.

I fight now for Dublin Bet because from my view, it's one of the best casinos ever.

And finally i fight for cheated and scammed players and webmasters if i have time for it.

I am writing an my site, on other German sites, and now Gambling Joe is asking, why i don't write a book.
You see, i have enough work until the Klingons are coming to stop me.

For this issue...

There is a simple question: Why posts will not be simply removed to another or own thread? Why they will be removed in full from the public view? Why different stories exist about the reason that the posts disappeared, and why since days nobody want to give a public answer to all these questions?

If it was a post with some naked men climbing on trees or a blank screen with 2 blue X, then i can understand this. But a post with the words of law is not only a post. And if in the chatter box a post will be removed because you say, that it does not match to the thread...

WHY THEN IN THE AFFILIATE CLUB THREAD A 2ND POST, THAT MATCH 100% TO THE AFFILIATE CLUB THREAD WAS REMOVED TOO? THE POST IN THE CHATTER BOX WAS LINKING TO IT! THIS 2ND POST WAS THE CRICITAL POST, BECAUSE IT WAS INCLUDING THE PROOFS OF THE CRITICAL MALTA LAW WITH A LINK TO THE GOVERNMENT AND A SCREENSHOT AND IT WAS CENSORED IN ONE WAY!

It could be easy. The two censored posts will return to the board, the post from the chatter box maybe in another tread or my personal diary. It was a mistake, o.k.

But over 48 later and the last statements i have the feelings ... yes, i am allowed to have feelings too ... that there is more behind it and i will investigate it. Not from the GPWA side, because Anthony never play foul.

And please Anthony, read this post, the one in the morality thread i have written a few minutes ago and the last one i will write into my diary (must 1st look, what happened there). Then we have a base for our phone call tomorrow. Because you have taken me never for an idiot or have insulted me, was never arrogant or unprofessional, and i am sure we will find a solution on a fair way as it was every time in the past.


Now i will look into my diary and after this the day is over for me. I have to think over my christmas video and must switch on my color changing snowman in the window.

Have a nice evening

Leopold

[Anthony]

Leopold, as we have communicated to you before. If you post the same thing multiple times they will be removed. Making a post and then duplicating it and/or posting links to it in multiple threads is not going to continue. Constantly derailing threads, is not going to continue.

At this point I assumed you know what is allowed at GPWA and what caused the moderators to act. You continue to do the same things expecting different results. I will be more than happy to go over it with you in our phone call, so there is no further misunderstandings. I know you are passionate and opinionated about this industry and that is a good thing, the diversity of the participates here adds to what GPWA is. But that does not change the fact the moderators will continue enforcing the rules of the forum. I am also confident we will find a solution when we speak and can avoid these incidences in the future.