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    Anyone else had an unusual number of "consistent" winners the last year?

    I have seen nothing but HUGE red numbers for quite some time - something I have never seen in my 8 years in this business aside from Vegas Affiliates.

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    damn Ark. What's this like month #6 or 7?

    we've both been around long enough to have seen some extremely strange happenings and that said ... also to have a good idea what to expect most the time.

    I trust VA and actually wish I had promoted them more heavily back in the day because other than Rewards Affs ... VA has been the best at retention after we lost the ability to send new players.

    So if the above is true then you will likely see a turn of events where you'll have a consecutive series of good months.


    This also may have to do with a theory I mentioned in a thread I started at GAP concerning optimal number of players before you get into situations where you have enough players that you're going to see a winner almost every month but perhaps not enough players to absorb that one big winner and still show a profit.

    Come over and join the discussion. Which reminds me ... I'm kinda hurt I haven't seen you yet anyway. I recall I made more than a few appearances at your place - (insert smilie that has no shame when it comes to getting valued opinions involved at his forum here)
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    Over the last year ....

    MAY 08 $-13,962.55
    AUG 08 $-7,704.44
    SEP 08 $-5,862.79
    NOV 08 $-21,757.15
    DEC 08 $-3,629.66
    JAN 09 $-3,263.14
    FEB 09 $-8,558.44
    MAR 09 $-12,232.57

    These are just Grand Hotel...

    The months which were positive were very minimal.

    After complaining about the performance over and over I finally heard back from them - they told me I had a bunch of winners. Strange doesn't explain this - 8 years of experience does! I asked Michael / GPWA if they would look into this I was told to do my own investigation.

    This has been going on for a bit over a year - I sure wish Id see a turn around Steve, but based on the recent history I predict April will be another big negative - 100% certain of it - that is SAD!
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkyt View Post
    Over the last year ....

    MAY 08 $-13,962.55
    AUG 08 $-7,704.44
    SEP 08 $-5,862.79
    NOV 08 $-21,757.15
    DEC 08 $-3,629.66
    JAN 09 $-3,263.14
    FEB 09 $-8,558.44
    MAR 09 $-12,232.57

    These are just Grand Hotel...

    The months which were positive were very minimal.

    After complaining about the performance over and over I finally heard back from them - they told me I had a bunch of winners. Strange doesn't explain this - 8 years of experience does! I asked Michael / GPWA if they would look into this I was told to do my own investigation.

    This has been going on for a bit over a year - I sure wish Id see a turn around Steve, but based on the recent history I predict April will be another big negative - 100% certain of it - that is SAD!
    Ouch, Sorry to hear about this...
    The odds of this occurring are slim, I hope things get turned around for You. Have You checked the advanced account report for Grand Hotel? I have never had much luck with them either in commission wise.

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    Quote Originally Posted by AK View Post
    The odds of this occurring are slim, I hope things get turned around for You. Have You checked the advanced account report for Grand Hotel? I have never had much luck with them either in commission wise.
    Actually I used to do quite well with Grand Hotel - so far as I had my commission percentage increased for that property. Its just been the last 14 months or so that I have been getting consistently hammered. Makes no sense at all, but hey what can an affiliate do about it?

    I've been watching it pretty closely this month as I was told things would be looked into - thus far things seem to be back on target of where I should be. Hopefully it maintains - I will be sure to report back.

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    Quote Originally Posted by arkyt View Post
    I've been watching it pretty closely this month as I was told things would be looked into - thus far things seem to be back on target of where I should be. Hopefully it maintains - I will be sure to report back.
    UPDATE ...

    I was told things would be looked into back in April ... turns out April was a pretty good month...

    May and June were both back into the NEGATIVE - I guess they stopped looking into things.! Again things just dont add up and the April month after being told things would be looked into makes things look even more odd!

    Vegas Affiliates - could you please look into things again and flip that switch back to on? Thanks

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    it could just be you always had winners but now they cash out instead of blowing it all back.

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    HI,

    I am looking into it for you. Will get back to you shortly
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    Quote Originally Posted by arkyt View Post
    Over the last year ....

    MAY 08 $-13,962.55
    AUG 08 $-7,704.44
    SEP 08 $-5,862.79
    NOV 08 $-21,757.15
    DEC 08 $-3,629.66
    JAN 09 $-3,263.14
    FEB 09 $-8,558.44
    MAR 09 $-12,232.57

    These are just Grand Hotel...

    We took a look at all your stats from January to June. The figures showing
    in the payment report are all correct, your players are winning.

    April- +30,243.77
    May- -21964.75
    June- -17156.30
    Well I guess the higher ups have spoken - all my players ARE winners!

    So much for history that proves over and over the house always wins - thats no longer true.

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    Those are very bizarre stats. The odds of something like that happening are astronomical.

    VA, are you shaving this affiliate or what?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Engineer View Post
    The odds of something like that happening are astronomical.
    I've been hoping that they would have found a stats error or something technical to explain it, but when they keep coming back saying all your players are winners; what am I to think?

    I guess I have to hold on to that hope that one day things will turn around like they did in April.

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    Hi,

    There are investigations going on with regards to your stats, this will take a while, but we are running as complete fraud check on everything. As soon as I hear back from fraud and technical I will let you know. In the meantime if there is anything else you need, please let me know.

    Best Regards

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    Het arkyt, since you have nothing but winners there, mind if I sign up under your link?

    Ooops....sorry....

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Het arkyt, since you have nothing but winners there, mind if I sign up under your link?

    Ooops....sorry....

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    Hey that might help - after all it could be that I currently fall into that soon to be offical quota clause and thats why I've been 'erased'. Hmmmmm, nah I'm still going to do my best to remain positive. uh huh - no really I am!

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    Colosseum $-4.56
    Grand Hotel $-4,437.26
    Vegas Slot $-8.89
    Vegas Country $-3.75

    July was another stellar month - I guess I better tell the kids no vacation this year - thanks Vegas Affiliates for sticking it to me, no but wait GH wasnt a 5 figure negative; must mean things are looking up.

    * Thanks to those who tested for me in July - clearly things didn't track correctly - If anyone else wants to do some testing for me, let me know!

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    July was another stellar month - I guess I better tell the kids no vacation this year - thanks Vegas Affiliates for sticking it to me, no but wait GH wasnt a 5 figure negative; must mean things are looking up.
    Don't look for things to change in the near future. With their retroactive terms change including bundling, its only going to get worse.

    I will be taking them off my sites when I update them along with Playshare and Star Partners Casinos who also retroacively changed their terms and conditions. I feel they shouuld all be rougued.

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    I see each program I promote as an investment, some pan out and some don't.

    I don't lose sleep over it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by slotplayer View Post
    I see each program I promote as an investment, some pan out and some don't.

    I don't lose sleep over it.
    Good to hear you don't lose any sleep getting screwed - when I get screwed I'm up all night.

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    August is nearly over and I can see another big red number is working... good to see tha VA is making things right.

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