CardSpike / CAP / Gambling911

[pgaming]

Also, on a sidenote, I see that the diatribe that Lou posted against Michael, where Michael was generally defamed and accused, falsely, of criminal activity, has been deleted or removed:

http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...ay.33203.html?

No prob Caruso I grab the cache and screen shot. Here's the cache

mad Cyber stalking and worse by GPWA and APCW they posted my HOME address today!!!!!
J Toad and Michael Corfman just published my HOME address in their sick attack video. It's now broadcast via Youtube and their sites!!!!!!!

I have children at home and a young grand baby and two elderly grandmothers living in that home. I didnt watch the video, but my wife did and she called me crying. She's afraid for the families safety and justifiably so. ANY sick bastard with a grudge can now reach out and harm my family. This is the sickest case of cyber stalking I have ever seen in my life!!!!

This is criminal and not civil.

Who appointed these assholes as inquistors and who gave them the right to examine my personal and business life and place my children and family in harms way????

I own seven businesses and stock in many companies what right does anyone have to investigate my personal affairs and endanger my family?

For What? What did I do to GPWA or APCW?

I know people are reluctant to take sides in ANYTHING or get involved, but again ]just imagine this was happening to you and your family. These people are sick and rogues of the highest order. I cant imagine anyone agreaing with these actions and I urge everyone with a shred of decency to stop supporting GPWA and APCW in any capacity.

If they are doing this to me, my family and CAP imagine what they are capable of doing to you or your business.

Imagine for one minute if someone did this to you and your family!!!! Its cyber stalking, malicious, totally unwarranted and sick.

I am tired of trying to stay above this whole situation of constant attacks. Now they are intentionally endangering my wife and children and its too much to just brush off.

Michael and J Todd you are sick evil and wicked bastards. I could post YOUR home addresses too but I would NEVER sink that low. I am shcoked ANY business would operate like this and have the GALL to do this to peoples lives.

WHY WOULD YOU DO THIS!!!!!!!! CAN THIS ******* SICK CAMPAIGN OF HARRASSMENT STOP NOW???? DONT EITHER OF YOU HAVE ANYTHING ELSE IN YOUR LIVES OR BUSINESS TO DO THEN DOING THIS SICK ****!!! HOW DARE YOU????\

HOW DO YOU LOOK AT YOURSELVES IN A MIRROR OR SLEEP AT NIGHT!!! YOU ARE A DISGRACE TO THIS INDUSTRY AND THE WORLD ACTUALLY!!!

Source

greek39

[Dominique]

It's still there, in the private industry forums now.

[arkyt]

Effective Media (Fabiano & Jolly) clearly run the affy programme for Absolute Slots, which is why Casinobonusguy received an AS payment from Effective Media:

https://www.gpwa.org/affiliateprogra...te.asp?id=8093

That much isn't in any doubt at least. Mr. Whidden would hardly list an Effective Media email address in his Absolute Slots management capacity by accident.

THAT explains a lot! LINKS REMOVED!

I would suggest anyone else to remove them as well!

[arkyt]

And to all those who have for years chosen to ignore the ongoing BS thinking it was better to be seen on CAP than to exercise their conscious - the last few months clearly shall result in guilty by association!

If you can see any level of wrong doing and choose to ignore it - you are no better!

[joeyl]

Hardly anyone gives a toss Arkyt.

For me, it's not about stopping folk working with Cap. I'm not a competitor. Cap could be very useful if they stopped certifying rogues, and took the bull by the horns when it comes to player issues.

The cup ain't half full around here in this online thing. It's a dribble at the bottom.

[arkyt]

Hardly anyone gives a toss Arkyt.

The cup ain't half full around here in this online thing. It's a dribble at the bottom.

I fully agree - and have little doubt thats why the cup will always contain just a dribble instead of it overflowing. Really sad in all these years things haven't moved forward - even sadder are the idiots who still try to use the excuse it's in its infancy - most are from the same lot that eagerly chooses to ignore the obvious.

[mojo]

I understand Elliot will be responding to the Absolute Slot connection on Monday. I believe Absolute Slots is a good solid casino. I would really like some honesty here and also if any other program utilizes effective media. Stepping up now and full disclosure will go a long way IMO.

From the GPWA Absolute Slots profile:

Affiliate Program Management
Benjamin Whidden

Affiliate Manager
Native Language: English
Other Language: German
benjaminw@effectivemedia.com

[mojo]

ugg going to chime in here guys and say WOW!! This is just getting crazy now with rumors don't ya think? Elliott called me today absolutely(no pun intended) stunned at these rumors that were started by a hidden poster commenting on a gossip story on Gam911, it has no merit and is totally just off the wall!

I am sorry but I see this thread as a waste of time because not once has there been any hard core proof to any of the accusations.

And why this statement was made that we are 'off the wall' for questioning a clear connection both by casinobonusguy, who IMO is a valid source and the submission of the effective media email address by Absolute Slots both here and at Casinomeister.

[MichaelCorfman]

Since the participants in this thread made some mention of Absolute Slots, I want to point out that I have created a new thread to cover this particular topic.

Here is the URL: www.gpwa.org/forum/absolute-slots-effective-media-group-178579.html.

Michael

[arkyt]

I thought this Benjamin character was going to comment on this today? I seen them logged in earlier today but never seen a comment - did I miss one?

mention of Absolute Slots

.... and the plot thickens.

CAP errrr EMG errr who ever the hell its the exact same people, in charge of affiliate relations for multiple programs now giving them fake certification seals and posting forums on their site which amount to fly-like traps for affiliates. Nope no conflict of interest there - nothing wrong with that at all, I guess I just have one of those personal vendettas - don't mind me - you go back on over there, ignore the BS and post because it helps your own personal cause.

[pgaming]

This thread could keep a hot air balloon afloat.

Curious Ixian have you ever been ripped off before? Deceived? or are we just full of Hot Air because you hold the golden keys to the promise land?

I find your position strange, but surely respect it. So if your on the CAP's magic carpet ride why bother typing this that or the other thing.

greek39

[DaftDog]

Curious Ixian have you ever been ripped off before? Deceived? or are we just full of Hot Air because you hold the golden keys to the promise land?

I find your position strange, but surely respect it. So if your on the CAP's magic carpet ride why bother typing this that or the other thing.

greek39

I respect your right to free speech and I'm glad that you respect mine. By the way, I respect both GPWA and CAP.

or are we just full of Hot Air because you hold the golden keys to the promise land?

Not sure what you mean by that?

[ppw]

I am not a "full time affiliate" I have a garden contract business as my main income and as such have to spend a great deal of my "online time" learning (or lurking if you prefer) (we've all done a little in our time) about the current issues that affect the affiliate industry. And I have to admit I am starting to get completely overcome and confused by this issue.

If I am correct the initial issue was one of ownership, which has now been proved as just an un-ethical business interest which seems to spread from CAP, to EMG and what the posters have said now is that its not only Cardspike but other operators too within the CAP camp.....

Am I right, I am completely confused, dont get me wrong, I want these issues to be addressed, I am just losing the plot alittle.... perhaps its just a case that I have sat here too long reading all the thread

[Nandakishore]

I am just losing the plot alittle.... perhaps its just a case that I have sat here too long reading all the thread

You are not the only one. I was away from all forums for about a month, and then came back to find the CS drama everywhere. I have also spent a lot of time reading all the threads. The whole situation is complex, not only because the CardSpike subject itself is complex, but also because in all these threads, lots of 'private wars' between various persons are going on, quite natural in a forum, making it very difficult to gain any transparency in the main issue.

[mojo]

In a nutshell here is my view if it helps at all.

Here we have lou/em running the aff programs for cardspike (cs) and absolute slots (as). CS and AS are presented on PAP/CAP with no disclosure on this to affiliates or other affiliate programs. CS becomes rogue. Instead of coming clean then, there was a mass banning of anyone who tried to get to the bottom of it.

When apcw and g911 broke the story there was still no disclosure. In fact it's like pulling teeth to get answers! Instead there were word games on the part of CAP. Hence, the huge threads and bickering. Personal wars or whatever cannot disquise the issues here. There must be full disclosure if you are running an affiliate forum for the affiliates and at the same time running an affiliate program. That is a clear conflict of interest when there is no disclosure.

I now know that AS is run by EM. Thank you GPWA and APCW. I can make my own decision from here. Further, I would like to see that stated at CAP that ES runs the AS affilate program so everyone else can make that informed decision too. I don't think anyone would have a problem with an 'in house' section or something. I would also like to know if there are any others.

If that was done in the first place, none of this would have happened.

[ppw]

Thanks Mojo,

I did have it!!! Thanks for clarifying.

I agree full disclosure of other business interest should be made if they are part of the CAP / EMG affiliate umbrella, just so informed descisions can be made by the affiliate.

[MichaelCorfman]

I just want to point out to those following this thread that I have started a new thread with a summary of the various interactions with Affiliate Media management related to CardSpike, including some new information.

www.gpwa.org/forum/dancing-around-truth-about-cardspike-178689.html.

Michael