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    Quote Originally Posted by DaftDog View Post
    Any spun content can never ever come close to being medium quality content. I can spot a spun article ten miles away. But hey, some people are easily fooled.
    I agree with you, they have not much experience, may be money too, so can be easily hunted by freelance "fishers".

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    While I have rewritten articles, I have never once spun anything. What is the point? It is unlikely to rank and if it does, it won't last. Plus what better way to get someone who is genuinely interested in a topic you have posted about, to never come back to your site.
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    I agree with hiring a freelancer for article, but can't get over this 500 words/article thing. If we're talking about daily content I assume it's a kind of newsfeed. You have to consider that news don't generate themselves in equal distribution, there are massive breaking news days and a couple of days when nothing happens. Writing 5 500 words news when nothing happens would end up sweating out very low content. And if I read an article and asking myself at the end 'what did I just waste my time for' is not better or equal in reputation than checking my source and finding nothing new or just small news. We add that people tend to like shorter sources and don't like reading long articles today. What I'm saying is,I would measure my freeancer in quality and quickness rather than word/article counts.

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    let us know how it turns out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by wonderpunter View Post
    Depends what you are writing about.. If the writer is knowledgeable in the subject they can write from the top of their heads... Take a hip hop artist for example.. they can write 8-10 number one hit songs in a day.. the same goes for skilled writers.. 20-40 per day of 500 is good.. 30 mins per article.. if the person has no knowledge then however long it takes him to research and put it to paper.. its all about personal ability..
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    Depends all on the knowledge of the writer and the quality of the article. Sitting 1 hour in the train, I can write 4 or 5 average articles when I got subjects in mind. A longer and higher quality article takes a lot longer. With some research, easily 8 hours. You'll need somebody with gambling-experiencie if you want 5 wel written and researched articles with 500 words each and someone that knows about call to action.

    Usually: pay peanuts and you'll get monkeys. Also if you pay some one per article, you are paying directly for what you're wanting: content. If you pay someone per hour, you also pay him to think, to sit in the garden with a beer, etc. and deliver a crappy article the end of the day. If you pay him for artictles that do satisfy, than you will just have articles that do fulfill the quality level you're asking.
    You guys are crazy avid writers... I can't fathom writing that much good content in a day, and I know my subject matter inside and out! Wow.. I, and my editors, need to step up our game!

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    usually it is 4-5 news 350 words, and half of the 500 words article

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    Another interesting thread would be... How many words do you post personally for an average article? I try to average 500 with some being 400 and some being 600..
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    Agree it's all about the skill of the writer.

    I could churn out a ton of high quality content as I am an expert in sports betting and casino. Whether I could do it day in, day out as a job though is another matter.

    It's the variation of doing the sites, SEO, affiliate marketing and all the rest of it that keeps it interesting, if I was just a content writer I'd go mental.

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    60 to 80 minutes per good articles (500+ words) with images, that's how it usually takes me, but as people said here it depends from the topic. If I don't need to research or I don't need a HQ article, then it will take 20min per article.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Syndicate View Post
    Amazing... I've seen the work/examples of at least 100 content writers for sports-betting. They would bore the **** out of my audience. Punters want reasoned opinion not some daft person in a third world country who wouldn't know the first thing about betting.

    I'm sure it could work for casino sites since it's less complex. What can you write about. Promotions, new games and bonus..........Boring!!
    I think these two are connected, since a lot of the English casino content is done with such low cost it can only be done by people who can survive with that money. I mean, I can get more money cleaning toilets here(which is basically the quality you get when hiring for peanuts) than writing for 1 cent per word, whereas for someone in Philippines or India it's the other way around. Problem is that none(rare exceptions exist of course) of these people have any experience in iGaming(not in Europe anyways), and thus your content consists mostly of research that is unable to reach any conclusions. That doesn't make it worthless as it's part of the market. Compared to Nordic affiliates though most of the other markets/niches are missing/underexploited.

    This probably has to do with the fact that the online casino business is saturated with Nordic people, can't say the same for sports-betting where the best expertise has to come from the UK/Ireland. You get the kind of writers that you pay for. I would suggest offering 4 hour work days though, with the same pay. You'll end up getting better quality for your money.

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    I know this is a dated topic, but after a few years of writing in this industry, I have no problem with averaging 4,000-5,000 words/day without sacrificing quality as long as I'm able to take a day off each week to recharge. This pans out to around 25,000-30,000 words/week. This includes submitting content, finding images, formatting, proofreading (obviously), etc.

    With that having been said, I've been systematically pushing myself for several months to be able to do more and more before I get burned out, and this is the result of a lot of that work. There was a time a few years ago, especially when I wasn't as knowledgeable and had to do more research than I do now on a lot of things, when doing 1,500-2,000 words in a day was stretching it.

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    It really depends on what kind of content you're looking for.

    If you want someone to produce content that's better than anything out there on a certain topic, it likely requires lots of research unless the writer happens to be extremely educated on the subject in advance. For this type of content, I would discuss the compensation on a case-by-case basis.

    Most gambling webmasters, though, just want some content on a certain topic. If you're looking for that type of "filler content," I know some solid writers who can produce 2,000-3,000 words of error-free and readable content per day on a consistent basis.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gambleri View Post
    It really depends on what kind of content you're looking for.

    If you want someone to produce content that's better than anything out there on a certain topic, it likely requires lots of research unless the writer happens to be extremely educated on the subject in advance. For this type of content, I would discuss the compensation on a case-by-case basis.

    Most gambling webmasters, though, just want some content on a certain topic. If you're looking for that type of "filler content," I know some solid writers who can produce 2,000-3,000 words of error-free and readable content per day on a consistent basis.
    The bold is what I've focused on writing full-time in the gambling industry for the past few years, and it's the reason why I can do the volume I can and still provide really great quality.

    On the subject of quality vs quantity, I get in a lot of situations where people don't want to pay the prices I ask because they are used to getting 500 words of rehashed whatever for $10 a pop. But the fact of the matter is that you get what you pay for, and Google is getting better and better at detecting high-quality content over time.
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    Full time they could 100% push out at least 15 - 20 well written articles

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    It varies piece by piece. 4-5,000 of quality content by a knowledgeable betting writer is about average. Sure, people could produce more, but over an extended period of time, quality is going to slip massively.

    But from what I've seen, I think there is a massive area to exploit here for some people, though. Instead of hiring 'gambling writers' for absolutely everything, a focus on actual Copywriters could pay dividends. Good Copywriters know how to engage their audience and drive them to action. You will pay more for that, but your 'content' will get results. For that, you are looking at 2/3,000 words per day, because every sentence is crafted with a more specific purpose.

    But, you definitely want to be paying per piece of writing. Hiring a writer FT is the wrong way to go.

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    I had 2 content writers full time that used to produce between them up to 50 articles a week 500 words + well written and very descriptive it all depends on the person , how quickly they get bored and what they have too right about I would think

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    People seem to be caught up in the number of words and forgetting that the OP is considering becoming an employer.

    That is a serious undertaking and comes with a lot of regulation and time commitment.

    Stick to freelancers.

    The length and number of articles are totally arbitrary and not relevant to your actual question at all.

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    It should not be about "words" but quality. If a writer is producing quality content that is researched correctly, the amount they produce will vary by the day and subject matter.

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    Our writers tend to produce around 3,000 words of quality content per day. I believe that anything more than that would result in a loss of quality, although this obviously depends on the person as well.
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    I think 5,6 articles of 500 words ispossible, but a hard work, because its not only writing and its thinking.

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