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    I'm a new affiliate and our website is barely ready yet. However just received an email from Lewis at Casinoblu claiming to have worked with me previously, wanting to offer me a superb deal. Obviously a lie. Wonder how they got my email?

    The email:

    Sorry to write to you with no intro,

    I used to manage your account at another brand and would love to close a deal with you for casinoblu.com.

    CasinoBlu is the largest gamescale casino,

    I can pre pay, offer highest industry CPA's and work on any deal that suits you as you are an established affiliate,

    We convert at 40% from sign up to FD as standard,

    Our strongest markets are France, Italy, Germany and all english speaking countries (apart from US)

    Please be in touch by email.



    Thank you in advance,
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    Quote Originally Posted by OddsFactor View Post
    Wonder how they got my email?
    A crooked staff member at an online casino or affiliate program, that you have recently signed up with, probably sold it to them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by OddsFactor View Post
    However just received an email from Lewis at Casinoblu claiming to have worked with me previously
    Received this email too. We should ask him where he worked before and where he managed our account

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixian View Post
    A crooked staff member at an online casino or affiliate program, that you have recently signed up with, probably sold it to them.
    I would say that it's just an AM that moved companies with a list of his affiliates.
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    I have been in contact with this group a FEW times over the last few weeks.

    For me they keep changing the lie about where they got my email address.

    They are spamming for affiliates plain and simple and there is no way to deny that.

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    I got the email to - I've never worked with any affiliate manager named 'Lewis'. I care more but there are so many other reasons that I wouldn't work with this group that spamming seems small fish stuff.
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    received and deleted this as well - surprise surprise it went to my private email. too many affiliate managers are somewhat "frivolous" with the private information entrusted to them. quite frankly it really pisses me off.

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    It happened again, what I described on October 2014:

    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung
    The truth is, that

    -a handful of rich men have control over the online casino industry.
    [...]
    -some people -also in high position- sell or exchange privacy data of webmasters on conferences, via email and Skype.
    Source: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/leopolds-...tml#post768917

    This time it was before the next conference or after last conference. Decide yourself. This is with high probability the truth, because after some quick investigations it's clear, that some receivers of this dirt are addressed by their names.

    Selling data in this industry is no surprise. For some crooks it's self-evident.

    Look into the header of email:

    "Received: by nitrogen-oneize.cccampaigns.com [...} (envelope-from <affiliates@email.affblu.com>)"

    That says it all!



    Now be one more participant of Leopold's exciting surprise events!

    The sender of the spam is ...

    affblu.com

    Oh, ...........................

    IP-Check: 213.171.204.126

    And now we make a little reverse IP-Check!

    Suprise, surprise!


    AffEurope!

    The crooks of AffEurope are obvioulsy the people behind this dirty campaign!

    And now you know, why they worked together with hackers!

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    That just confirms my suspicions voiced here - https://www.gpwa.org/forum/urgent-al...tml#post773345
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    as far as i can tell - casino blu do not hold a uk license.

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    Yep! Affblu (envelope-from <affiliates@email.affblu.com>)

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    email rule: Spam

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    Having two domains on the same server is not 100% proof, but this along with the other evidence that has mounted up the past few days certainly does look correct.

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    Quote Originally Posted by universal4 View Post
    Having two domains on the same server is not 100% proof, but this along with the other evidence that has mounted up the past few days certainly does look correct.
    Agreed but as the saying goes, when it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck....

    There are situations where I'd be prepared to give the benefit of the doubt, but this isn't one of them. Even then there's not much doubt to give - these groups have been passing each other traffic and now it comes to light that their aff programs are on the same server. Even if they're not managed by exactly the same people it's pretty tough to deny the connection. At worst the ownership is highly likely to be the same.
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    FFS Im just agreeing

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ixian View Post
    A crooked staff member at an online casino or affiliate program, that you have recently signed up with, probably sold it to them.
    This happens a lot. I'm always getting emails that read something along the lines of... "Hello .... We've worked together before. I'm now with... how would you like to...."

    I just delete them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Roulette Zeitung View Post

    AffEurope!
    Bravo Leopold!

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    or emails that say I love your site (where your email address has nothing to do with your site) so you ask them which site? Of course they don't even know who they are emailing

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    I've checked the header and indeed it is from Affblu

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepogg
    What I find particularly interesting about this is that Casino Blu is owned by Conan Gaming Ltd, the same group that owns AffPower. It's interesting that of the two groups that chose to make clear their intention to continue working with this hacker, one chooses to shut up shop in the UK and send their traffic to the other. To me this looks very much like there's some shared ownership going on.......
    This is so important, that it should be repeated!

    What if the extent of the crime is worse than we thought?
    What if criminals of two programs are working hand in hand since a very long time?
    What if I say now, that the "Aff" in AffEurope and AffPower is no accident?
    What if the whole industry was taken for an idiot for years?

    We all know, that exactly these two programs -AffPower and AffEurope-, refused to stop the cooperation with criminals. It's is a proven fact. They played games with (nearly) all of us over months!

    We know, that it's no accident, that AffBlu and AffEurope are lurking on the same IP-Address. No other third party is present! Not a single one. There is no doubt, that AffBlu and AffEurope are with good reason alone on that IP-Address.

    AffEurope, one of the "members" of the IP-Address closed on 31. December 2014 the affiliate program to collect all earnings from the casinos alone in the future. All webmasters were robbed. For AffBlu the other "member" of the IP-Address a dirty hit on campaign was started.

    Does anybody really knows all strawmen behind AffEurope and AffPower? I don't talk about some representatives, sometimes with fake names. The real men in the background. No one knows them. They will never go to conferences or talk with forum owners. No one knows, what is going on when the door is closed.

    Casino Blue license number is LGA/CL1/683/2010.
    As thepogg says: Behind this license is Conan Gaming Ltd (Company No. C50471), and this company is AffPower!

    Both -AffPower and AffEurope- refused with same pattern the intentional cooperation with hackers.
    Both - AffPower and AffEurope- played down with same pattern in the public (!) the criminal actions of the hacker.
    Both - AffPower and AffEurope- were exposed as notorious liars.
    A casino with the license of AffPower is hosted on the same IP-Address as AffEurope, who is stealing the money of the affiliates since 31. December 2014. Only these two hacker friends are sharing the same IP-Address. No one else!


    For me there is no doubt, that AffPower and AffEurope working since a long time hand in hand, and this will explain (!!!) so much strange things I have seen but have had no explanation until today. Now all fits together.

    Leopold

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