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    Quote Originally Posted by antihacker View Post
    top-online-casinos-2014. com - also a hacker. Perhaps (or more than likely) the same.

    See: http://webcache.googleusercontent.co...ient=firefox-a

    For SURE the same type of problem!!

    See: https://www.google.com/?gws_rd=ssl#q...coupon-code%22

    This rabbit hole goes deeper and deeper.. No rabbits inside though. Just cancerous matter.
    Did everybody see this too? Sorry for repeating myself..

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    Just to say, I've received a response from Betfair a few minutes ago. Within 20min of sending and email acknowledging my email at the weekend a received a further response stating that all deals with this affiliate have been terminated with immediate effect.

    No it's time for the rest of the involved programs to step up to the plate.
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    I think it is pretty much a lost battle...too many affiliate programs out there, and many of them won't care where the traffic is coming from...

    Moreover, if he is on a CPA deal, there is no point in shutting down an account: the affiliate won't lose any money, will simply change affiliate program...

    I appreciate the effort, but if you want to be really effective, you need to contact google

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberto View Post
    I think it is pretty much a lost battle...too many affiliate programs out there, and many of them won't care where the traffic is coming from...

    Moreover, if he is on a CPA deal, there is no point in shutting down an account: the affiliate won't lose any money, will simply change affiliate program...

    I appreciate the effort, but if you want to be really effective, you need to contact google
    I strongly disagree. I suspect the OP will not stop until the person's operation is stopped. My hope is that any programs who are profiting and turns a blind eye, as you're suggesting,goes down with the criminal.

    I recall something similar happening to an unethical affiliate with ebay. I wonder what would have happened to ebay had they not cooperated with the investigation?

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberto View Post
    I think it is pretty much a lost battle...too many affiliate programs out there, and many of them won't care where the traffic is coming from...

    Moreover, if he is on a CPA deal, there is no point in shutting down an account: the affiliate won't lose any money, will simply change affiliate program...
    Don't necessarily agree with you on that - as soon as an affiliate program cuts him off then they're losing money on any player that signs up in the meantime. Alongside this, while there are a lot of affiliate programs, this person's clearly chosen a specific calibre of brand; mostly big, well known and pretty well thought of brands. The more brands that are actually seen to take action here the more difficult it becomes for other brands that value their reputations to be seen to continue working with this individual.

    I do agree that google's the best option, but I wouldn't totally discredit approaching the involved programs.
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    Quote Originally Posted by thepogg View Post
    Just to say, I've received a response from Betfair a few minutes ago. Within 20min of sending and email acknowledging my email at the weekend a received a further response stating that all deals with this affiliate have been terminated with immediate effect.

    No it's time for the rest of the involved programs to step up to the plate.
    That is fantastic news. Thank you very much. Has there been any proof provided of it all? It would be nice, if they can convince you it has indeed led to his banning. Saying is one, knowing / seeing it has been done is another.

    Having said that: I am over the moon because of this message of yours. 1 down, many to go.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roberto View Post
    I think it is pretty much a lost battle...too many affiliate programs out there, and many of them won't care where the traffic is coming from...

    Moreover, if he is on a CPA deal, there is no point in shutting down an account: the affiliate won't lose any money, will simply change affiliate program...

    I appreciate the effort, but if you want to be really effective, you need to contact google
    Hello Roberto,

    Thanks for your reply. I appreciate you appreciate my effort. Although it comes across as if you think it is a few minutes work here that I've put in. Also for your program I've done all this. This is important to ALL affiliate programs as it was DESTROYING our industry. Sooner or later, criminal investigations would be launched. Then what?

    Do you realize just how much danger I put myself in, doing what I did? I could lose all I've worked for the last 12 years. Do you think, if the hacker finds out about me, and my sites, that he will send me roses and brandy? I think, by now, he is out to get me. My online life is not certain. I'm a bit like Edward Snowden now. Lucky I'm anonymous. Hopefully, I am anonymous enough for hackers like this. They see through everything and have no sweat annihilating me if they find me. What will happen then? No one will care, I can promise you that.

    Question: Did you have a look and see if he is signed up with you?

    Google will be the salvation we all are waiting for. Unfortunately, no. It is a bit naif to say that.

    Why do you think Google will do anything? Did you go down to google too, to support me on this so they will do anything? What did they tell you?

    Let me show you something (report from someone who was affected too) (This report was there already, and was posted april 27th, not sure what year..

    bookie0-07Level 2 Apr 27
    I've read the FAQs and searched the help center.
    My URL is: activatebrands.co.za /activate/?p=online-casino

    Some individual has managed to rank thousands of websites for thousands of keywords for months now

    As you can see from my link they have done some genius thing where they have created hundreds of sub pages on websites using querystrings and then inserted an iframe to a site called "Verified Casinos".

    How is it possible that Google cannot tackle this but are very adapt on penalizing honest websites.

    There are hundreds of these

    campverdeschools.org/?p=online-casinos
    caymanaconsulting.com/?p=online-casino
    imagiinate.com/?p=online-casinos
    justice.is/?p=online-casino-reviews‎

    etc, etc and on and on
    Google's response:

    Spammy online casinos? OMG This is unforeseen and uncharted territory for the SEOs!
    They ridiculed the person.

    Then, the report (one of the many) I've done:

    Hello ladies and gentlemen,This is my SECOND attempt here!! (And countless other attempts to report this hacker, so far NOT A THING!!!)
    Can someone please have a look at this serious hacking work and do something about it? Or tell someone within Google about it??

    I've tried everywhere, but no where I can report this with as result that action is being taken.
    Please have a look at these search results, and just pick a few randomly:
    http://www.google.com/search?q="?p=online-casino"
    http://www.google.com/search?q="?p=online-casinos"
    http://www.google.com/search?q="?p=online-roulette"
    http://www.google.com/search?q="?p=online-video-poker"
    Site who is doing this: verifiedcasinos. com/
    Attention: He hacked NON gambling sites. We must protect his victims.
    There are millions of sites hacked by this person.
    Please let someone within Google have a serious look at this.
    Thank you kindly.
    PS: Someone else had reported this criminal here before, only to be ridiculed by the helpful people here. https://productforums.google.com/forum/#!topic/webmasters/30_UC3y9zbQ
    Shame on those who are responsible for not taking action and ridiculing him.
    As he says, Google is quick enough to penalize honest sites, but responding to a serious criminal hacker report, no no..
    What the hell is wrong with you people???
    More info on the hacker: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/urgent-al...of-219035.html
    Answer from Google:

    Google Search only finds what's on the web Google doesn't police it.

    In any case, I've no idea what you're talking about.

    Please let us know what search terms you type into Google Search, what results you get, and where you see the "hacking".

    Just a single instance, step by step, just enough for us to understand the issue.
    ME:
    Thank you for your answer, The link to the forum will tell you all about it.
    The site verifiedcasinos dot com has hacked millions of sites, and has placed pages on their sites, all with /?p=online-casino - or any of the other thousands of keywords they've used.
    Simply search on Google "?p=online-casino" and you will quickly see what I am talking about. Click any of the results you see, then you get the page I'm talking about. Then go back to the Google page, now select 'cache' and you'll see even more what I mean.
    In any case, did you visit the forum I referred to for more info?
    Google:


    I visited the forum you linked to. What I saw is no more help than your comments above.
    If websites have been hacked, only their webmasters can fix them.
    If anything unlawful has occurred, it needs to be reported to the relevant law enforcement agency.

    I still can't see how this has anything to do with Google Search.
    And, they simply shut up after...

    Then this, perhaps this will get rid of your faith in Google, see: http://googlewebmastercentral.blogsp...to-spread.html

    An anti hacking post on Google's own blog. You'd think, there is a presence of Google personnel there, no?

    I've posted:

    Dear people, This is to report a hacker who hacked millions of sites worldwide and is still active! The discovery of the unethical promotion practices of one casino and gambling affiliate may well be the largest hacking scandal the online gambling industry has ever seen. It seems that MILLIONS of non gambling sites have been hacked by this person. I have tried, and tried to report this to Google, so far, NO result what so ever... Please take a moment and read: https://www.gpwa.org/forum/urgent-al...of-219035.html
    So far, not even a warm fart from Google. And, it is on a hacker awareness post from Google themselves!! Site's still indexed, guy still makes cash.

    I've supplied a few links where everybody can vent their displease with Google. So far, I see nothing. Perhaps I've missed your input there. I wish affiliate programs would care as much about our industry as I do. Maybe you can paste your report to google here?

    Saying a lost battle, that is not caring. Not wanting to do anything, as it is a lost battle anyways. Not a good mindset. Google is not the way. Affiliate programs are.

    CPA or Rev share does not matter. Affiliate programs should report this guy to the authorities, and sue the blue living stinky cheese out of him for putting them in so much danger with the illegal activities. As a matter of fact, if you look at this: all of his players he brought in, should all be cancelled. They have been brought in illegally. Probably won't happen, but still.

    **** Affiliate programs should really understand that, if ANY of the website owners that were hacked would have put a criminal complaint in with the authorities, the affiliate programs would be the first point of focus for the law enforcement authorities. ****

    True story bro. What do you think that would have as result??

    I think, the affiliate programs should be VERY happy, it is me who brought it up and not some big company who found out they were hacked by casinos. One of those big companies would be heard by the authorities for sure. It would have opened the doors to prosecuting the casino industry. THEN, it would be too late. So, they better hurry banning this banana.

    So, no fecking way is it a lost battle. Especially now, that you are on-board too, to actively be rooting out this cancer that is amongst us.

    Thank you!

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    Quote Originally Posted by -Shay- View Post
    I strongly disagree. I suspect the OP will not stop until the person's operation is stopped. My hope is that any programs who are profiting and turns a blind eye, as you're suggesting,goes down with the criminal.

    I recall something similar happening to an unethical affiliate with ebay. I wonder what would have happened to ebay had they not cooperated with the investigation?
    I should have copied and pasted your reply, would have saved me a lot of time. lol. Well said.

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    Quote Originally Posted by thepogg View Post
    Don't necessarily agree with you on that - as soon as an affiliate program cuts him off then they're losing money on any player that signs up in the meantime. Alongside this, while there are a lot of affiliate programs, this person's clearly chosen a specific calibre of brand; mostly big, well known and pretty well thought of brands. The more brands that are actually seen to take action here the more difficult it becomes for other brands that value their reputations to be seen to continue working with this individual.
    True.

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    I do agree that google's the best option, but I wouldn't totally discredit approaching the involved programs.
    Hi Thepogg,

    Sorry to say, that balloon does not go up. Please read my previous post in which I demonstrate just how much Google is interested in this. Google does not care. Google CAN not be contacted.

    Just for fun, try contacting Google... If you have time.. I bet you that you won't be able to in a normal fashion. Try calling them. I've got a phone bill of several hundreds of euros right now, due to calling to them (and all affiliate programs time and time again). International dialing and then waiting, waiting, disconnected, etc.

    Google can not be reached. They don't care either. Google's best department? Their marketing dept. They talk, we believe. Google is not the way.

    I think, all respectable programs should be warned about this. And, they should change their TOS IMMEDIATELY.

    IF an affiliate is using illegal practises like hacking etc, they are liable to pay a fine of $xxxxxx. Put it in the TOS. Then, when I / they catch someone again, they can simply claim in front of a court of law. It might scare people off a bit not to do what this dude has done.

    They should also INFORM the affiliates of such rules actively. So, they hopefully think twice. A big warning needs to be put out.

    Those who won't comply, well, it is up to us to rogue them. All of us, we've got quite some reach online. We bring in most players. Most people won't gamble in rogued casinos. All then what is needed is some time, to watch them dry up. Might take a while, but eventually, they will be gone.

    Thank you for everything, I appreciate it a lot.

    Antihacker.

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    This thread was brought to my attention earlier today, so I would like to make a few comments.

    First of all, the GPWA code of conduct, section 2, includes the following provision: "Sponsor Companies will not use unethical methods of promotion either directly or indirectly through others."

    We interpret this provision to mean the GPWA code of conduct does not allow a sponsor company to maintain a business relationship with an affiliate that uses hacking ("unethical methods") for their promotion.

    Generally, first the situation has to be fully outlined to the program so they can form a proper conclusion that the affiliate is acting in an unethical fashion.

    So, the most important step in the process is to have a clear and easy to understand explanation available to the affiliate program that an affiliate they are working with is acting unethically. It seems pretty clear that this affiliate is not acting ethically, although I say that without myself having gone through the substance behind the statements made in this thread to confirm they are all true. Some affiliate programs might be able to readily reach that conclusion from what is posted here. However, I can also appreciate that for some affiliate program representatives the evidence might be hard to unravel and clearly understand. So I think some patience will be appropriate where a program does not immediately appreciate the details of the situation. In those cases the GPWA can help to explain the situation, and I believe Anthony has essentially offered to help in that regard in his earlier post in this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MichaelCorfman View Post
    This thread was brought to my attention earlier today, so I would like to make a few comments.

    First of all, the GPWA code of conduct, section 2, includes the following provision: "Sponsor Companies will not use unethical methods of promotion either directly or indirectly through others."

    We interpret this provision to mean the GPWA code of conduct does not allow a sponsor company to maintain a business relationship with an affiliate that uses hacking ("unethical methods") for their promotion.

    Generally, first the situation has to be fully outlined to the program so they can form a proper conclusion that the affiliate is acting in an unethical fashion.

    So, the most important step in the process is to have a clear and easy to understand explanation available to the affiliate program that an affiliate they are working with is acting unethically. It seems pretty clear that this affiliate is not acting ethically, although I say that without myself having gone through the substance behind the statements made in this thread to confirm they are all true. Some affiliate programs might be able to readily reach that conclusion from what is posted here. However, I can also appreciate that for some affiliate program representatives the evidence might be hard to unravel and clearly understand. So I think some patience will be appropriate where a program does not immediately appreciate the details of the situation. In those cases the GPWA can help to explain the situation, and I believe Anthony has essentially offered to help in that regard in his earlier post in this thread.

    Michael
    Hello Michael,

    Thank you. I thoroughly appreciate your voice here. On top of that: I agree with all you said. In the time that I've been here, I've gotten an awful lot respect for Anthony. You guys should be very happy to have him here.

    Having said all that: If any of the affiliate program managers have difficulties finding stuff out, please do not hesitate to send me a PM. I will be glad to inform them of what I know, and how they can see what is going on. Although, in my first post in this thread, it should be easy enough to see just what is going on. (Mind you, the hacker is using geo targeting manners, meaning, not in all parts of the world are the same brands being promoted.. This hacker has a huge operation going on. In Germany, German spoken websites, and casinos targeting the Germans, in France, French text and sites targeting the French, and so on.

    Although I agree that a bit of patience is in place, I would like to inform you of the following:

    If I may refer to thepogg's last post:

    Quote Originally Posted by thepogg
    Just to say, I've received a response from Betfair a few minutes ago. Within 20min of sending and email acknowledging my email at the weekend a received a further response stating that all deals with this affiliate have been terminated with immediate effect.
    That is how you deal with this. And, they did not ask me anything.

    If you do a search yourself, and click a few of the results, you'll see. Did you take a moment to do that? And, what were your findings?

    Thank you,

    The antihacker.

    PS: Did you hear about this through my PM I sent you? Or was there another way..?

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    This thread caught my attention...
    I see the same pattern on Google for many gambling related keywords.
    But I think there is "something more" behind this...

    My question is: "is this guy ONLY an affiliate?"

    Following this thread...

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    LMFAO - Brightshare commenting on an unethical thread.

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    Bit more info......this guy is based in Costa Rica and goes by the name of Steve. He is hacking other peoples wordpress sites through a flaw he discovered in a particular version, so all he has to do is find high ranking sites who haven't updated their wordpress version and hey-presto, he has a casino page ranking. Not only that, but he has even had the front to steal other casino affiliates' designs for his pages.
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    Whilst Paddy Power hasn't actively been working with the affiliate, I see they had us listed on their sports site. We have suspended the account.

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    Received From Google:

    We've received your report for verifiedcasinos. com/

    Thank you for submitting a report for this site: verifiedcasinos. com/

    We take the quality of our results very seriously. We investigate spam reports, prioritizing by search result impact, and take appropriate action when we uncover abuse. In especially egregious cases, we will remove spammy websites from our index so they don't show up in search results at all.

    We appreciate your taking the time to help us improve our service for your fellow users around the world. By helping us eliminate spam, you're saving millions of people time, effort and energy.

    -----------

    Just got a PM from someone here, who stated he had walked the path I am walking right now. Google 'took' actions, but, as we all can see, he's back. So, I think this message from Google is worthless. Still, had to put it here...

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    Quote Originally Posted by PaddyPowerLuke View Post
    Whilst Paddy Power hasn't actively been working with the affiliate, I see they had us listed on their sports site. We have suspended the account.
    Hi Luke,

    I appreciate your input and firm actions. The absolute correct way to deal with this.

    Thank you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bgobuddies View Post
    Bit more info......this guy is based in Costa Rica and goes by the name of Steve. He is hacking other peoples wordpress sites through a flaw he discovered in a particular version, so all he has to do is find high ranking sites who haven't updated their wordpress version and hey-presto, he has a casino page ranking. Not only that, but he has even had the front to steal other casino affiliates' designs for his pages.
    This is awesome info. Thank you. Steve in Costa Rica so. Now I feel we ARE closing in on him.

    VERY valuable info.

    PS: If you have more info on him, please PM me, and I will immediately commence contacting law enforcement. Although, Costa Rica... Hopefully they have interest in him. Once we are done with Steve, Costa won't be so rica anymore.

    Your support and input here is immensely appreciated.

    Thank you more than I could express here..

    The Antihacker.

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    Quote Originally Posted by dfiocch View Post
    This thread caught my attention...
    I see the same pattern on Google for many gambling related keywords.
    But I think there is "something more" behind this...

    My question is: "is this guy ONLY an affiliate?"

    Following this thread...
    Hi there,

    Your question is one I have as well. It is something that is playing around in my mind too..

    So far, it seems we are talking about a 'Steve' from Costa Rica.

    Thanks a lot for your input.

    Antihacker

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    Great work you are doing here. May I ask how would you expect Google to respond? The security patch for this flaw/hack was released by Wordpress a month or so ago. If Google penalize the sites, is that really fair on the sites?
    I think the best way is to get the affiliate programs to act, and you are doing a great job there, I see your word all over Google. Any affiliate program that cares about their reputation should take a proactive response to your work.

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