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    I'm new to the industry and this is shocking. How anyone could now trust a forum like that to represent the best interests of people like myself is beyond me.

    Trying to cloak all the mess in a BS powerstruggle is nonsense too. The big guy had a choice to not go along with the crap and he chose to mask CAP's interests for the benefit of people that were making money out of the scam.

    Thats some pretty messed up stuffs addded to which the whole thing has been aired out in the open like some tardy playground ruck. Hardly the sort of brand I would want to be dealing with if I was a certified affilaite partner over there.

    To think I nearly started promoting those CS lot too :/

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    Back to Business - Statement from Warren (http://www.casinoaffiliateprograms.c...en.34516.html?)

    Now a completely new situation1. Warren admits his affiliation with CS and apologizes for covering up his association
    2. He says all outstanding affiliate payments will be cleared up.
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    I was just notified this morning that affiliate accounts were credited yesterday for commissions up to January 31st, so everything should be up to date. February commissions will be paid next week. There are approximately 6 affiliates who have not yet been paid because they have not responded to emails requesting their Cardspike Player account information. If you are one of those affiliates, please respond to those emails as soon as possible so you can get paid.

    If there are any other affiliates that still have not received payment from Cardspike, please contact tom@cakepokernetwork.net."
    3. He claims that those millions Lou has been talking about has been transferred from one corporate account to another
    4. Future changes
    "You will be seeing a lot of positive changes at CAP in the future, including, but not limited to:
    - Changes to CAP Certification
    - Free speech approach allowing members to speak their minds without unjust banning (several were already unbanned at the time of this posting)
    - Termination of hostile CAP efforts, such as the T&C alert monitoring and CAP audits. Instead, we will partner with folks who already do this well, such as AGD and APCW.
    - Evaluating the establishment of an independent “Advisory Board” consisting of influential members that will help ensure CAP makes the right decisions in the best interest of all."

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    A full copy of Warrens statement is as follows:

    Quote Originally Posted by WarrenCAP
    Please note that the below statements do not represent anything other than the facts, and/or the opinions of Warren Jolly. They do not represent the opinions of Affiliate Media, CAP, or any of its other shareholders or employees.

    Dear Clients, Business Partners, Colleagues, and Friends,

    Following the recent events and what they are doing to the industry, I felt issuing this statement was necessary, and frankly, a long time coming.

    First, and most importantly, I owe all of you a huge apology.

    I screwed up. There is no excuse for trying to cover up my affiliation with CardSpike, other than I knew there would be a conflict of interest. I realize that I have betrayed your trust, and all that I can ask at this point, is that you give me a chance to rebuild it. Here is the truth, once and for all.

    Last year, Lou and I formed Effective Media Group, or EMG, as a completely separate company from CAP and PAP.

    We did this for two reasons. First, Lou wanted to manage a company from his home base in Florida. A new company would provide the revenue stream necessary to enable that. Lou would have a separate company to grow and develop, while remaining at CAP as community administrator, while I handled the day-to-day business of CAP, PAP, and Affiliate Media’s other properties from our main headquarters in California.

    Second, Lou and I were approached by a group of investors seeking our help in launching two new online properties: Absolute Slots, an online casino, and Cardspike, an online poker website. We set up EMG as a separate company though which we could offer managed consultancy operations to these clients as well as utilize EMG as a vehicle to launch our own affiliate portals – CasinoFan.com being the first – since that was our start in this business pre-2000. We did this together, as business partners.

    Late in 2008, Cardspike experienced errors with affiliate tracking. I don’t want to minimize the severity of this error; it’s an unacceptable oversight that I take very seriously. However, ultimately it was a regrettable but simple technical error involving inaccurate reporting and in no way a deliberate failure on my behalf.

    As someone who began my career as an affiliate, I sincerely hope you trust me when I say that I would never knowingly deny payment to any affiliates.

    I was just notified this morning that affiliate accounts were credited yesterday for commissions up to January 31st, so everything should be up to date. February commissions will be paid next week. There are approximately 6 affiliates who have not yet been paid because they have not responded to emails requesting their Cardspike Player account information. If you are one of those affiliates, please respond to those emails as soon as possible so you can get paid.

    If there are any other affiliates that still have not received payment from Cardspike, please contact tom@cakepokernetwork.net.

    Although I had no ownership interest in Cardspike or Absolute Slots, I did have a beneficial interest due to my involvement with EMG. Again, I sincerely apologize for not coming clean sooner about this. I failed to do so because of the perceived conflict of interest with the CAP and PAP operations, and because Lou and I could not come to an agreement on how to go public with this information.

    Effective immediately, I am resigning from EMG and surrendering my shares in this company. I will have no further connection with EMG, Absolute Slots, Cardspike, or any of the owners or shareholders of these entities.

    I’d also like to address the larger issue of Lou’s banning from CAP, and the reasons behind that.

    Over the past weeks, because of certain irrational and potentially dangerous decisions on his part, a rift has developed between my former business partner and me. Several days ago, Lou chose to take these private disagreements into the public arena, by posting harmful allegations and sensitive company information here at CAP and on other public message boards (as well as emailing this information to hundreds of other people).

    I felt that Lou’s decision to make our business disagreements public was not only unprofessional, but also potentially damaging to CAP and the entire iGaming affiliate community.

    While Lou originally founded CasinoAffiliatePrograms.com, he has since made the decision to share the ownership and business direction of CAP with other parties via a corporate vehicle.

    Lou has recently accused CAP employees of failing to post his CAP TV videos, in which case the accusations were simply incorrect. The truth is, he failed to meet the deadline for content submission, which is the same every week. He has displayed unwarranted hostility towards community members and has even posted forum threads under other users’ names — even under my own name.

    He has chosen to circulate throughout the iGaming world a letter in which I am accused of illegally channeling Affiliate Media funds into my own personal accounts. This is absolutely untrue. The transactions in question were simply the transferring of company funds from one corporate account to another. This was done in order to limit access to these funds and protect the company and its shareholders from rash and potentially damaging actions (such as posting sensitive financial information on public message boards).

    The following is a statement from Larry Ernst, Affiliate Media’s Vice President of Finance:

    The WAMU Business Analysis Checking account is used for general business purposes for all divisions of Affiliate Media, Inc.

    Regarding the transactions circled on the WAMU Business Analysis Checking Account Transaction History document, funds were transferred to the WAMU Money Market account ending in 2410 to maximize return on funds since the Business Analysis Checking Account was non-interest bearing.

    The funds withdrawn by the PC Initiated Outgoing Wire on February 20, 2009 were transferred to the Wells Fargo Business Cash Management Account for Affiliate Media, Inc. and subsequently transferred to the Affiliate Media, Inc. Comerica Business Checking account for safekeeping.

    In no event have company funds been comingled with personal funds by any officer of Affiliate Media, Inc.

    I am personally appalled to find the corporate records being posted in account number and transaction level detail and compromising the privacy and integrity of the accounts.


    This kind of irrational and damaging behavior is why Lou has been banned from the CAP Forum. I cannot allow such unprofessional behavior to further jeopardize this company or the interests of its owners, employees, and community members.

    In light of his recent behavior, I strongly feel that Lou’s exit will only improve the CAP community. Those of you who have been around CAP for a while know that I truly do care about this community, and have been an integral part of its growth. Yes, as a businessman and entrepreneur, I want to see it generate revenue. However, I am not willing to jeopardize my relationships with clients, affiliates, or colleagues to make that happen.

    You will be seeing a lot of positive changes at CAP in the future, including, but not limited to:
    - Changes to CAP Certification
    - Free speech approach allowing members to speak their minds without unjust banning (several were already unbanned at the time of this posting)
    - Termination of hostile CAP efforts, such as the T&C alert monitoring and CAP audits.
    - Evaluating the establishment of an independent “Advisory Board” consisting of influential members that will help ensure CAP makes the right decisions in the best interest of all.

    I apologize for the fact that a lot of this has been made public, and in the interests of avoiding such a trend into the future, this will likely be the last public post that I make about this issue. I would like to encourage everyone to get back to business so we can move forward with positive change ahead.

    I welcome your comments, feel free to contact me directly via PM.
    GPWA Executive Director, Casino City CEO, Friend to the Village Idiot

    Resources for Affiliates: iGamingDirectory.com, iGamingAffiliatePrograms.com, GamingMeets.com

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    Thank you for posting Michael. A lot is covered in the post. I just don't believe much of what comes out of this battle between the two, there is so much "he said/he said" that it is hard to see where the deceit ends and the truth begins. This is a major blemish that just does not go away with a single post. I don't know if I will ever trust them again.
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    I've spoke with Warren since this all started and I read what he posted on CAP.. Now I'm sure I'll never be close with either of these guys, but I have a TON more respect for Warren at this point because he is at least taking some responsibility and made an apology..

    All Lou has done is try and get people to feel sorry for him, no apology, nothing is his fault, the world is all against him.

    Lou - Man up once in you life!!
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    I deleted it. Not appropriate post.
    Last edited by worthy; 27 February 2009 at 6:14 am. Reason: I was drunk

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