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    Default Top 12 SEO Tips for 2010

    Since last years thread is still getting responses and I continue to receive PM's regarding it, I thought I'd post a pre-release of my 2010 Tips.

    I am scheduled to hold a Master Class session on it again in Amsterdam, and this will also be in the next issue (or two if its too big - Sorry Gary and Michael ) of the GPWA magazine, but I though it would be kushdie to post it here first. Hopefully this will;

    1. Give members a couple weeks jump on everyone at the conference and;
    2. Create some great discussions here on techniques and such

    Let me just please say in advance as I have several times in this document - I do not condone many of these techniques. There are too many ways to do them wrong. If you have questions regarding any of these you contact me here, PM or EMail me and I will gladly expand on anything I have mentioned here, as well as at the conference.

    I think its important to know what the competition is doing, or if they could possibly be doing something to vindictively harm your rankings, and many of these techniques, used in different fashions, can do just that.

    If this has happened to you I can also (in most cases) show you how to resolve the issue.

    Either way, everything is free (as always) and although I am sure I will take some flack for publishing much of this, it needs to be known as the playing field continues to transition and the goal posts continue to be moved.

    Finally I ask that you give a big shout out to Euro Partners for giving me the 'nod' on this -pre-release. There are many more to come (PPC 101 through PPC 105, Link Building, 101 through 105 as well as in-depth information on many of the things I cover here as well as many tests I have running regarding viral and social marketing, the implications of the caffeine update, and many more.



    Top 12 SEO Tips 2010


    So here I am for the fifth year and about the 10th version of Top Tips (updates included).. It’s taken me awhile to get around to them this time because as time goes on, you become more educated and recommending something that hasn’t already been said is difficult. Therefore this time around I’ve decided to do a mix of some questionable techniques (that of course I do not condone) with some still seemingly unknown or underutilized white-hat information, and one or two tips that consolidate other basic, but important tips that I have broken up in the past.

    I decided to do this because even today I speak with people that read my stuff years back but have yet to implement them. We also have many readers that are new Webmasters and Affiliates that will benefit from seeing that the small stuff is just as important as the big stuff.
    More importantly I want to share techniques in a step-by-step way that anyone can implement them without even knowing a word of code.
    Once again I must say that I am simply a messenger of information. I do not condone in any way the use of these techniques, as some are dangerous – as well as some of the software that I will mention.
    Now that that’s out of the way let’s get going!

    1. Links I thought I’d tackle the bull by the horns from the start. I have a lot to say about links, and since at least half of the questions I get in the forums, at conferences and from clients is about links, I’m guessing it’s what you are most interested in.
    So Google has said over and over not to buy links. If you do buy them, then you have probably seen some damage, depending on your techniques.

    Establishing what links to buy and where you buy them from has always been a bit speculative because everything from page size, site size, the number of other links, the quality of the links, the relevancy of the site and various other factors have affected what a link is actually worth. Then you had to deal with things like checking the integrity of the link was still intact, or even still there. There are dozens of tools out there that were built just for this purpose.

    So what do you do? I had a look at all the different methods available and several are still effective (I.e. blog posting, blog rolls, establishing forum links, Yahoo Answers and so on) and in the end, what I’ve found is that the clear winner for my money is going out there, doing the homework and negotiation and actually buying sites. If I own the site then I also own the content, and more importantly the links I’ll put in the existing content. I’m looking for related content or a website with a silo of related content that I can take existing keyword phrases and change them into hyperlinks.

    I usually look at the overall spend on “sponsorship – wink, wink” x 18, in order to establish a maximum offer. So if the total amount the client is spending on links is £1000 per month, I look to buy a site for up to £18k. Anyone that has looked around at brokerages that sell sites knows that £5k can buy you a lot, let alone £18k. Take into account the money saved on maintaining purchased “sponsorship” dues versus your campaign expectations. Outside of hosting and domain renewal you will own the links forever – they will never expire.

    There are a few other factors to look at before buying a site;
    Ø Domain Age – 2 years minimum unless other factors outweigh this factor
    Ø Page Rank – yes it does matter when buying a site because it represents G-Trust
    Ø Number of existing back links
    Ø Quality of those back links and are they to any deep pages?
    Ø How many pages are indexed with Google?
    Ø Install McAfee Site Inspector on your computer. It will flag any issues to do with bad history, malware or any one of many other problems it may have
    Ø Other pluses are host location vs. target location, the number of registrants of the domain, DMOZ listing and rankings. If it’s a forum, the number of active members and recent posts are important.

    2. Auto Posting & Spinning for Content – In line with tip #1, now we will use these forums, blogs and websites and start building regular content. There are several pieces of great software out there but two of the best are SENuke and ArticleSpinner.com. In short, once setup with basic logins and passwords you can populate your sites with unique content – even if it’s not – and all automatically.
    Hot Tip – By translating a page using any of the search engines translators (usually in the toolbar they offer) on your existing page you essentially create a new page of related content (with links back to your site of course) and a new URL is created. This is a live page! And it is linked to from the search engines/authority sites. According to a colleague of mine (Rob Kerry a.k.a. EvilGreenMonkey) it’s a technique that works well with Yahoo and MSN.

    3. Blog/Forum Spamming + Creation – I’M GOING TO REITERATE ONCE MORE THAT I DO NOT CONDONE OR ENDORSE THESE PROGRAMS OR TECHNIQUES, BUT KNOWING WHAT YOUR COMPETITION MAY BE DOING MAY HELP TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.

    This is nothing really new but there are some improved programs out there that have made it easier for the novice to do. Auto-blogger is one for automatically posting to blogs; X-Rumer is a good one that if you know just a bit about basic coding, you can create hundreds, even thousands of blogs automatically. Then you go back to #2 and scrape articles, spin them, then auto post to your own blogs with links to your sites.

    I've had a few issues with XRumer but here's how it works;

    XRumer is a Windows program that posts forum spam with the aim of boosting search engine rankings. It has been claimed that the program is able to bypass techniques commonly used by many websites to deter automated spam, such as account registration, CAPTCHAs, and e-mail activation before posting. The program makes heavy use of a database of known open proxies in an attempt to make it more difficult for administrators to block posts.

    In addition, X-Rumer can avoid the suspicions of forum administrators by first registering to make a post in the form of a question which mentions the spam product ("Where can I get...?"), before registering another account to post a spam link which mentions the product. The side effect of these innocent-looking posts is that helpful forum visitors may search on a search engine (e.g. Google) for the product and themselves post a link to help out, thus bolstering the product's Google stats without falling afoul of forum posting policies.

    The latest version of XRumer can defeat CAPTCHAs of Hotmail and Gmail. This enables the software to create accounts with these free email services, which are used to register in forums that it posts to.
    I still believe in the old fashioned way of manually posting to 20+ blogs 2-3 times each week and establishing a good member status on 12-15 forums and posting 2-3 times each week.

    You may also want to look at CommentBlogger 3.0 and Market Samurai especially (wink -wink) good as well.

    These are practices that black hats have been using for some time, but php skills were necessary until now.

    Below is a list of dofollow forums;
    1. http://forums.digitalpoint.com
    2. http://www.vuju.com/
    3. http://checkthisup.com
    4. http://www.sitepoint.com/forums
    5. http://www.thewebmasterforum.net
    6. http://www.webmasterforums.com
    7. http://www.allcoolforum.com
    8. http://www.warriorforum.com
    9. http://forums.webicy.com
    10. http://thehyipforum.com
    11. http://www.webmasterforumsonline.com
    12. http://www.webmasters.am/forum
    13. http://www.webmasterforums.net
    14. http://www.devhunters.com
    15. http://www.webmaster-forum.net
    16. http://www.geekvillage.com/forums
    17. http://www.zymic.com/forum
    18. http://www.webmastershelp.com
    19. http://www.webmasterdesk.org
    20. http://www.webmasterground.com
    21. http://developers.evrsoft.com/forum
    22. http://www.websitebabble.com
    23. http://www.elancetalk.com
    24. http://www.talkingcity.com
    25. http://www.australianwebmaster.com
    26. http://www.wtricks.com
    27. http://www.forums.webzonetalk.com
    28. http://www.htmlforums.com
    29. http://www.searchbliss.com/forum
    30. http://www.webmasterize.com
    31. http://www.webmasterserve.com
    32. http://www.freehostforum.com
    33. http://www.seorefugee.com/forums
    34. http://www.cre8asiteforums.com/forums
    35. http://forums.seo.ph
    36. http://forums.delphiforums.com
    37. http://www.web-mastery.net
    38. http://www.webworkshop.net/seoforum/index.php
    39. http://www.webproworld.com
    40. http://www.bzimage.org
    41. http://www.v7n.com/forums
    42. http://www.dnforum.com
    43. http://www.webcosmoforums.com
    44. http://forums.webicy.com
    45. http://forum.hittail.com/phpbb2/index.php
    46. http://www.affiliateseeking.com/forums
    47. http://siteownersforums.com/index.php
    48. http://www.webmaster-forums.net
    49. http://www.geekpoint.net
    50. http://www.smallbusinessforums.org
    51. http://forums.ukwebmasterworld.com
    52. http://www.experienceadvertising.com/forum
    53. http://opensourcephoto.net/forum
    54. http://forums.seochat.com
    55. http://forums.searchenginewatch.com
    56. http://www.ihelpyou.com/forums
    57. http://dishnews.medianetwork.co.in/yabb2/YaBB.pl
    58. http://www.businesss-forum.com
    59. http://www.9mb.com
    60. http://acapella.harmony-central.com/forums
    61. http://forums.seroundtable.com
    62. http://www.submitexpress.com/bbs
    63. http://www.startups.co.uk/6678842908...04/forums.html
    64. http://www.webmaster-talk.com
    65. http://forums.comicbookresources.com
    66. http://www.clicks.ws/forum/index.php
    67. http://www.acorndomains.co.uk
    68. http://forums.onlinebookclub.org
    69. http://www.ableton.com/forum
    70. http://www.davidcastle.org/BB
    71. http://www.webtalkforums.com
    72. http://www.bloggapedia.com/forum
    73. http://www.bloggertalk.com/forum.php
    74. http://paymentprocessing.cc
    75. http://www.directoryjunction.com/forums
    76. http://www.internetmarketingforums.net
    77. http://www.lex224.com/forums/index.php
    78. http://forum.joomla.org
    79. http://forum.mambo-foundation.org/index.php
    80. http://www.simplemachines.org/community/index.php
    81. http://www.namepros.com/index.php
    82. http://loanofficerforum.com/forum
    83. http://iq69.com/forums
    84. http://forum.hot4s.com.au
    85. http://forums.mysql.com
    86. http://forums.amd.com/forum
    87. http://softwarecommunity.intel.com/i...y/en-us/Forums
    88. http://forums.cnet.com
    89. http://seotalk.medianetwork.co.in
    90. https://www.computerbb.org
    91. http://forum.vbulletinsetup.com
    92. http://www.irishwebmasterforum.com
    93. http://www.app-developers.com
    94. http://forums.stuffdaily.com
    95. http://forums.seo.com
    96. http://www.webdigity.com
    97. http://www.inboundlinksforum.com
    98. http://forums.gentoo.org
    99. http://ubuntuforums.org
    100. http://forum.textpattern.com

    4. RSS Feeds for Building Free Links – This is a little sneaky one I use to counteract Black Hat.

    You create RSS feeds to supply information on site updates, increase traffic to your site and place links in your content that will be republished and provide free links back to your site. Using the scraping technique mentioned above, Black Hat SEO’s would search out RSS feeds and build a data base with the content for future use, spin the content and reuse it or just republish the content. In all cases they would insert their own links. They build programs or plug-ins (such as the Word Press All-In-One SEO plug-in) and these will take any chosen word or phrase and search through the content and when found change the code to make it a link to their chosen site. There are many other ways this can be used but you get the basic idea.

    The neat thing here is that they need to do this automatically for speed and being able to make rolling URL’s and websites quick enough to beat the spam-bots for a few weeks for this technique to pay off. Because of this most don’t have the time to clean everything up properly, so your links remain.

    Publishing the URL of your RSS feed on the many different sites that list these (I.e. FeedBurner) will insure a nice number scrapers posting your links to their sites.

    I guess the first criticism of this would be that they will put you on Viagra sites – well even if they do I haven’t seen this particular method draw penalties when I messed around with it. But remember – I don’t condone or endorse....blah, blah, blah.

    Here are some simple steps to get started with RSS:
    Ø Set up a FeedBurner account to allow your feed to be consumed by others.
    Ø Share your feed on your various social networking profiles. Many social networking sites have the ability to consume and display your RSS feed to your friends, followers, and fans.
    Ø Submit it to multiple RSS submission directories (do a search for RSS submission for some options).
    Ø Here’s a starter list for you of where to submit your RSS feeds through;
    http://www.feedmil.com/addfeed.jsp
    http://www.feedest.com
    http://www.feedlisting.com/submit.php
    http://www.feedgy.com/Submit.aspx
    http://www.feedlisting.com/submit.php
    http://www.feedbees.com/add.php
    http://rssmountain.com/submit_anonym.php
    http://www.feedsee.com/submit.html
    http://feedfury.com/submit
    http://www.rssmicro.com/FeedRank/?Fe...com%2frss.aspx
    http://www.millionrss.com/add-my-feed.php
    http://www.rss-network.com
    http://www.goldenfeed.com/AddFeed.aspx
    http://www.rssmad.com/index.php
    http://www.feedbomb.com/
    http://www.plazoo.com
    http://www.rss-feeds-directory.com

    5. Webmaster Central Tools – Google I have always included Google WMC in each of my Top 12 SEO Tips for 2010 because each end every year they come out with more tools that make my life easier. I have never subscribed to the theory that associating your website with any of Google’s tools would give things away to Google that you might not want them to know. I’m sorry but I’ve dealt with them for years and have seen every end of the spectrum; from SEO to PPC on every one of my clients, past and present, and have never seen any adverse effects to installing Analytics on a site. I also believe it’s ridiculous to think Google has the time or resources to analyse.
    In fact, depending on how you choose to read into it, Google’s Matt Cutt’s himself has said that Google does look at some of the elements that Google Analytics and Webmaster Central Tools provide in order to rank a site better. Things like click through rates and time on site. They have also stated recently that load time will become more a more important ranking factor.

    So I guess the next reasonable question is; if they admit to using the information for positive ranking considerations, what’s saying they aren’t using it for negative ranking considerations?

    We all have our theories but I personally believe that 99.9% of anything Google would use this information for is automated and unless you are doing things you shouldn’t, you will not throw up any red flags to prompt further investigation by a human editor.

    With that addressed, let’s take a look at their tools and what we use them for.
    Ø Health Checks
    i. Robots.txt – these tell ALL the bots where to go and where not to go. If you have admin or member files you don’t want indexed
    ii. XML Sitemaps – these (and I make individual ones for data files, pic files, pdf files, doc files, etc.) tell the bots the files you do want indexed and where they are
    iii. Internal Links lets you know if you are cross-linked, which may confuse the bots or split influence between two similar pages
    iv. External Links – tells you who is linked to you. Helpful in optimising anchor text and bad links pointing to non-existent pages
    v. Crawl Errors advises you of any crawl errors Google finds like broken links or orphaned links.
    I have seen in some cases a website that has reformatted URL’s or rebuilt a website and neglected or missed using 301 redirects and using this tool have found 100’s of links pointing nowhere (404 error pages). Once they addressed this issue they gained the value of these links and subsequently better rankings.
    vi. Top Queries – this shows the top queries to your site which will allow you to improve specific landing pages for quick wins or target terms that have good existing rankings so that you can build new silos or pages to further enhance positions and traffic. In the gaming market the difference between
    vii. Associate Domains – This is an extremely easy quick win if you have WMC set-up. (This takes 5 minutes). Go into WMC and choose which domain you want as your primary (www or http). The benefit of this is that currently Google sees each as individual pages. Links that you have pointed at your URL may have both and you are losing the full benefit of your back links. You can accomplish this with a 301 but if you don’t know coding this is just as effective.
    viii. Geotargeting – I’m going to cover this in greater detail in number 6 because it’s actually a huge change in the last 12 months to anyone outside of the states that can be a fantastic advantage to a site with a global market, but for now I’ll just explain what it does. Geographical targeting (selection) in WMC allows you to target a specific region. So if you want to target England, just West Yorkshire, or just Leeds itself, Geographical targeting allows you to do just that. Be careful not to over-filter your target market region as this setting may or may not affect your rankings. Test it out before integrating it permanently.
    6. Geographical Targeting & Subdomains – (Advanced Geotargeting) – This isn’t for the feint at heart, the lazy, or the website owner that isn’t ready to do the extra work to get your piece of the pie.
    Using Geotargeting for Language and Regional Targeting

    The various ways that people search and the results the search engines are delivering are evolving rapidly. Smarter queries and more complex algorithms mean that you need to use various techniques to be sure you are showing up in the results. Local search, advanced search, regional search and language-based searches are some of the filters an end-user or a search engine can use in determining who shows up, when they show up and where they show up.

    Geotargeting is one tool Google has refined and one that you can manipulate to a point in order to increase saturation in any market.
    Beyond the obvious on-page considerations, different searches will deliver (in most cases) a different set of results.

    The results can differ greatly depending on several considerations;
    1 .The IP of the end-user
    2 .The server location of the website
    3 .Any geographically targeted settings in Webmaster Central
    4 .The relationship between the search filters and the resulting web pages (I.e. Did they search for Pages from [region] or Pages in [language]
    5 .If the end-user is searching a different extension than the defaulted engine (they manually enter Google.com searching for US or English results in a non-US region.

    The other elements that will affect rankings will be back links;
    1 .Are the links from a TLD that matches the destination URL (I.e. .nl linking to an .nl website)?
    2. Is the IP linking website located in the same region and the linked URL?
    3 .Page rank, linking anchor text, additional outbound links on the page linking to you
    4 .On-page relevancy
    5 .Language based meta-tags
    6 .Everything in the above 5 items relating to the linking website/page

    Any one of these elements can give you an edge over your competition.

    Searching any of Google's (non-US) datasets will generally return a variety of websites when no language or location filter is selected. These can include internal pages in a website, subdirectories (www.yoursite.com/french), Subdomains (www.french.yoursite.com), and various TLD's (top level domains like .com and .nl). All 11 of the above factors are present (but not exclusive) in the automatic algorithm.

    The problem is that no one really knows which approach is best, or which algorithmic attribute is the most effective, so what can we do with this?

    What we want to do is to look at the existing results using the available search filters, and the existing websites that are ranking high and determine what the best strategy for your website is. This takes deep page analysis of your competitors.

    The important thing to note is that there is a hierarchy between one and the other in terms of which is the best solution. Every website has its own individual solution based on their demographics, site mechanics and available resources.

    What you need to consider are;
    1 .Your target market?
    2. If you need or don't need geographical targeting?
    3. If you need language based subdomains or subdirectories?
    4. Should you move hosting?
    Can I afford to do it all?

    How & When to Use Geographical Targeting

    Here's what to do if you wish to;

    Geographically target a region?

    1 .Create a subdomain or a subdirectory in the native language and use Webmaster Central to geographically target it
    2 .Host the subdomain on a server in the native region and use geographical targeting
    3 .Build back links from similar TLD's

    Target a specific language?

    1 .Create a subdirectory in the native language (I.e. www.yoursite.com/nl/)
    2 .Build back links from same language websites
    3 .Do not use geographical targeting

    The reason that you do not want to use geographical targeting along with a language-based strategy is that if the end-user searches in the native language on Google.com, a site using content in that language will be stronger than the same site with geographical targeting in place. (This isn't dependent on whether you use subdirectories or subdomains unless you hosted the subdomain in the target region).

    The answer for me is that I want it all...and NOW!!

    I've recently had subdomains rank with geographical targeting turned on and in the native language rank top 10 in 6 weeks. I've had brand new websites with the appropriate TLD's (I.e. .nl, .de & .es) show up in 8 weeks. I've even had a .com hosted in the US without geographical targeting show up in the top 10 results for “Hollywood” terms when they had never been in results in the UK.

    You can start with subdomains. Look at your log files to determine where the current traffic is coming from to tell you what to do first. Bounce rates can also tell you a lot.

    For example, if your secondary traffic source is Germany and you have a high bounce rate, start with a language-based subdirectory, then maybe move onto creating a subdomains, hosting it in Germany, then set the geographical targeting to Germany in Webmaster Central. Then go back and start all over again using the region that has the next highest contribution.


    Important Things to Remember!
    • To target a language using only subdirectories do not use geographic targeting
    • You can target a language with both subdomains and subdirectories but if you have a top-level TLD (.com) use subdirectories versus subdomains.
    • You can use Google geographical targeting on subdomains and subdirectories
    • Your title should be in the native language and/or use regional slang terms where they apply.
    • Use language-based meta tags whenever targeting language-based searches
    • Host subdomains that are for geographical targeting in the target region
    • When you implement the subdomain strategy, link to it from the original website
    • Create new sitemaps for each subdomain
    • When creating meta tags and content be sure to use native slang. (If you sold pants in the US and the UK. Pants are referred to as trousers. Sweaters are referred to as jumpers.
    • Get back links from same TLD's (get a .nl link to your .nl site in the native language)
    • If you have a TLD (like .nl or .de) do not use geographical targeting. These domains are already associated with its designated region

    TIP – In the past when you moved domains to a new host (or in this case Subdomains) it could take up to a week. Google WMC now has a tool that makes this almost instantaneous. Just get your ‘A’ address, move your content and any redirects from the parent site (Remember linking to the new subdomain from your parent site will pass nearly 100% of the PR, trust and authority, even though its seen and treated as a stand-alone website)

    In a nutshell, I recommend that if you already have an existing website with a TLD like a .com or .cu.uk, and they are your target market, do not use the geographical targeting option. Start building subdirectories using the top native language determined by looking at Google Analytics or your log files. Identify your top referrer language. If the languages are close, as it the case between the US, UK, New Zealand and Australia, use native slang in the title, metatags and content. Build a new xml site map and manually submit it through all the main search engines.

    The next step is to create a subdomain and get it hosted in the region that you are targeting. Build content in the native language and get r submit it, as well as setting up the geographical target in Webmaster Central.

    By implementing this strategy, you will have a significant advantage over most of your competition (or a little less after this article is released).

    Whether the search is initiated in the region or outside the region, whether your site is located in the region or just hosted there, or even if they search in the native language or manually enter a specific Google engine like Google.com.mx or Google.es, you will have improved saturation.

    7. Canonicalisation – Because of development issues, server settings, programming platforms, and even natural site progression a site may have multiple version of a homepage, or even an entire site. Let’s say you upgraded your site from an html site to a php site. Many times in the crossover pages are left on the server and are crawlable to the robots. These present several issues. You may have the same content and the new page never gets indexed. Links back to you may be to different versions. To mention just two of the most serious issues.

    I’ve seen a website that had 8 individual and crawlable versions of their homepage live at the same time. This can reduce the strength of your page. (Ever see a site that has a lower homepage PR than an internal page?) The simplest and least painful way to fix this is with 301 redirects.

    8. Other Important Factors
    a. Alt Attributes and Titles in Images – Use alt attributes on images to preserve content integrity while providing internal links for ranking factor. Using the alt attribute in images allows you to reinforce topical relevance with the on page text based content to improve a pages relevance score.
    b. Anchor Text Optimization – Use pertinent anchor text and do not waste link equity from excessively linking to non reciprocating pages within a site. Employing anchor text optimization means using relevant keywords to link to relevant pages within a site. Do this enough and before you know it you are virtual theming - creating a secondary navigation contextually through keyword co-occurrence. This can distinguish your site from competitors as each granular layer consolidates ranking factor for a website. This is why Wikipedia dominates search results.
    c. Flattening Site Architecture – Keep site architecture as flat as possible or use breadcrumbs to aid in information architecture and crawling.
    Avoid using sub folders excessively within a website domain.com/categories/products/colour/page.html vs. flattening the url and site by using more descriptive naming conventions for a page domain.com/Super_Audi_R8_Black_2010.html. The closer the more competitive keyword landing pages are to the root folder, the easier it will be for them to gain additional ranking factor, page rank and page strength to express the content on that page.
    d. Content Volume- Ensure you have enough content to dominate a competitive keyword. Trying to rank for a keyword with millions of competing pages with a little or no content is a waste of time. You will need topical relevance which means articles, posts and pages all internally linked and consolidated within a clear silo to create the proper on page signals for that keyword. Shoot for a minimum of 300 words that integrate LSA (Latent Semantic Analysis) or associated keywords and typical keyword phrases. You can find these using Google’s keyword suggestion tool or better yet look for the bolded print within the snippets when utilising Google’s beta LSA search query by typing a tilde (~) just before your keyword in a search on Google. Also use these keywords and keyword phrases in internal back links and external anchor text links.
    e. Contextual Links – Link contextually within related document to select preferred landing pages through virtual theming. If you are on a page about poker rooms, and have a keyword phrase such as “free poker rooms”, link the keyword phrase to the free poker room page. Do this for every keyword/kw phrase (just once per page if it appears more than that) and you have just added a virtual theme to your keywords. This means that each page can now work together collectively to support the parent theme (which is the main/root keyword itself).
    9. Social Bookmarking – I have included Social Bookmarks (SBM) in many of the last few Top Tips I have written because it just made sense that it would only be a matter of time before Google and the rest of the SE’s started placing more weight on them in the overall organic algorithms they use. A couple reasons why I believe this is that they are methodically devaluing links; they need some type of mass voting system that works much like back link valuation; and most of the social networks are progressively monitoring the way their services are used; or in other words policing member accounts and patrolling for spam accounts. Oh, and Google Buzz (jury's still out on Buzz though)

    We did some testing two years ago and I made the results public on SEOChat. In short, a member said that he had a competitor that had two of the top 10 listings for “Poker” in the Netherlands. This meant he was getting bumped out of the top ten – or front page of results and was wondering how to eliminate this dual listing. So we took a non-competitor site that ranked below his competitor and above him and used software called Onlywire that posted to several SBM services in one click. (I posted screenshots of the before and after in the thread). We revisited the experiment in less than 24 hours and not only had it bumped the secondary listing that his competitor held, but it also gained him an extra position.

    So what does this mean in the big picture? Anyone in the Poker industry online knows that one position gained in the top 10 results can be huge. In the graph below take a look at the difference between the #4 and #3 position; the CTR jumps from 4% up to 9.82%.

    This is primarily because when you are in the top 3 results on Google you are syndicated across other big sites like AOL, Netscape and iWon to name a few, but even the jump from #6 to #7 adds 1.5% CTR. 1.5% of a few million searches is pretty significant. Do the math and see what this small move with very little effort would make to your bottom line by increasing your position.

    One that I have been messing around with that seems to have more-or-less perfected this technique is Ping.fm. It added a few other viral services to the mix like GTalk, Twitter and LinkedIn, and is a one-click tool as well


    10. Other Killer Apps I use – Over the years I have isolated several programs and utilities that save us a massive amount of time. I’ll list them here, what they do and how we use them;

    (I use most of the tools at SEO Suite except for the Website Tool. Especially for global rankings monitoring as if you were from the target country)

    a. Google Alerts - This monitors Google’s data bases and will notify you when content appears that contain the kw/kw phrase that you are looking for. We use this to monitor the effectiveness of Press Releases, monitor the competition, identify new “buzz” in certain industries (primarily gaming), client reputation management and certain content. It can load directly into your iGoogle desktop.

    b. Google Trends – This is a tool that shows graphs identifying the traffic trends over time, from the last few years to the last few weeks and allows you to see a snapshot of most any industry. Great for researching your next product offering.

    c. Google Insights – This is a supercharged version of Trends. It monitors the actual search queries globally. So if you wanted to see what city, county, country or region had the most activity for a particular search term, this tool does that – and more! It can add delimiters such as time frames, and will also compare regions, compare related keywords and any mix of the above 3 filters. Then it will graph them all for you as well for a clear look. One of my favourite accessories that Google Insights has is that it will monitor the sector for related kw’s that have significantly increased search volume – they call them Breakout Terms and you can have these delivered to your iGoogle desktop as well. I can’t tell you how helpful this is when you are in a highly competitive field trying to find niche or long tail terms to target and get the jump on the big guys. Once we identify these terms we then create pages for them and add them to a silo. So for instance if “Million Dollar Bingo Game” is a breakout term being searched enough to draw a “Breakout Term” notification from Insights, we’ll build a page for it using all the steps mentioned above, add it to a relevant silo, bleed PR to it using no follows, and suddenly we are ranking very well.
    TIP – We also use the upgraded version of Domain Tools much in the same way. We monitor for our kw (e.g. Casinos). Anytime a domain is purchased with that kw in it we get an email. When we see that all the TLD’s (Top Level Domains like .com, .net and .org) are all purchased at the same time, we know some VC out there is paying to buy them up in expectation of a future site launch. Posh Bingo is a great recent example. We received email notification from Domain Tools, put an Alert on the term, and then watched Insights for a breakout alert. (We monitored the URL as well for launch)

    d. XENU – crawls your website and identifies errors, link structure, page size, external links and many other things that are important to the health of your site
    e. SEO Spyglass – Gives you a detailed report of your own or a competitors back links and ranks them using important factors like follow-no follow, Page Rank, and other factors. You can even import your Google WMC exported BL report and see if any of the back links to your site are potentially hazardous.

    f. EXCLUSIVE - VanguardSEO’s Dual Depth Back Link Checker – When acquiring a website we want to know who is linking to the sites that are linking to us, rather than just the first level of linking, so we built this free tool. - http://toolbox.vanguardseo.com/td/

    g. SEOMoz’s Linkscape – Another great tool for evaluating a competitors back links, anchor text, and discovering the strongest pages on a site.

    h. Majestic SEO – Looks at the back link trends of competitors to identify if a sudden surge in back links could be the reason for their rankings increase, then you can use one of many other tools (Link Assistant, ShoeMoney, SEOMoz) to identify these links that significantly changed their ranking and go after the same links or an equivalent linking structure)
    i. Rank Tracker – The best tool I’ve found so far for checking daily SERP (search engine rank positions) checking. It gives historical information and clear signs for increases and decreases from day to day or pre-seo to current day. It graphs everything over the full term of the campaign. It has human emulation and scheduling to reduce the chance of getting blocked. And my favourite; it queries any search engine anywhere as if you were there, so IP concerns aren’t an issue.
    j. Firefox SEO Quake Plug-in – Great for a quick look at all of the important ranking factors of the top 10 or just one site. This is a toolbar that allows you to set the values you wish to see like PR, indexed pages, registration date, SBM references, DMOZ, Yahoo, MSN, Baidu, and most other SE’s, plus a ton of other information on the fly.


    11. Niche and Longtail Targeting – I mentioned this at the RoNewMedia Event in Stockholm last year and I think a few people fell out of their seats; 25% of searches on Google that are searched each day have never been searched before.

    Now that my friends is a pretty significant stat! This is the reasoning behind Google buying Applied Semantics years ago and their more recent claims of gradually combining their current results with Universal results and Latent Semantic Analysis. Doesn’t it all make sense?

    You take the phrases people search, look at the CTR and time on-site versus the results hierarchy, run them through a semantics formula for related terms, then pool the terms in relevant silos. Factor in back links and semantic associations and you’ll probably have a pretty good start to a less-engineered set of search results.

    Well, that’s a sloppy example but you see what I’m getting at.

    Long tail and niche terms aren’t just important to target for the low-hanging, high-converting traffic, it’s crucial in content and back link anchor text, as well as SBM because Google doesn’t want to be “gamed” or their result manipulated by guys/gals like you and I. They want related content from related sites; not a bunch of Affiliate portals, and without the best content, laid out in the best way, things are set to get a bit harder for anyone to rank well if you’re not an Operator or big name brand.

    So how do you identify these LT phrases? For real-time I use HitTail. For building a data base for mySQL use I prefer raw log files. Other options are Shoemoney’s kw tool, WordTracker, or even Google’s keyword tool along with Shoemoney’s kw tool. There are also tools like IBP that will scrape your competitors sites and export an excel file to your desktop to play around with (like adding your city or region or brand). Many of these techniques I use whilst building PPC (Pay Per Click) accounts. Just be sure that you create silos with your kw strings and that you don’t link to multiple pages using closely related keywords or Google may consider them to be too closely related and not index one or split the value between the two pages. Using individual page titles and meta descriptions, along with non-duplicated content, then some back links and SBM should take care of this.

    I mentioned this once before; go after the low-hanging fruit. It converts better.
    I know I mentioned 25% of all search queries have never been searched before.
    Well this one is just as good;60%+ of all conversions come from niche and long tail terms.

    12.Get Free Help - Tip 12 is very simple; read Top 12 SEO Tips for 2006, 2007, 2008 and 2009. Most are still relevant. Send me an email or pick up the phone – I don’t bite or charge. You are also invited to approach me at a conference and have a quick question or a 1-on-1 session. Lastly, I am sponsored by Euro Partners and as an Affiliate of Euro Partners you get 100% free access to me, my network and free hands-on advice – so if you aren’t an Affiliate get signed up!

    Those are my Top 12 SEO Tips for 2010. I am sure I am bound to get a bit of flack from colleagues for releasing some of this information, I seem to be good at doing that, but in the end it’s about information sharing and passing it forward.

    Remember, I don’t recommend or endorse any of the above mentioned techniques or software. To a point you need to follow these instructions ass explained. Some of them are slightly risk with measured benefit, some are downright aggressive with a high likelihood of drawing some type of penalty (specifically the Auto-Blogging, SENuke and X-Rumer).
    If you have questions regarding any of these methods or programs email me or my team at VanguardSEO and we’ll give you free advice.

    Don’t miss CAC Amsterdam this year April 15-16th. We are assembling some of the best SEO’s in the industry for an SEO related event rather than just Gaming or just Affiliates.

    I’ll be covering these Top 12 Tips for 2010 in greater detail with Q&A’s and 1-on-1 sit down’s all week and during the conference in association with GPWA and Euro Partners.

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    Gary, sir, god, wow what an amazing post.
    I sooooo wish I could understand and implement some of it though.

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    Ask away - many others may have the same questions. That's what the forum is for - sharing information and opinions.
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    thank you for sharing!
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    Nice post Gary.


    But I've got to admit that my eyes started to blur a bit as we went down the page.

    Let's pretend that :
    - I don't want to buy links
    - I don't want to clutter unrelated webmaster boards
    - I don't want to run automated CAPCHA beating bots.

    Is there anything practical you suggest for links ?

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    That is the perfect seo guide.I just want to add few points for latest seo techniques.Those Points are listed below:
    Content Creation:
    Google likes fresh content.It always avoid duplicate literature,so that it is very important to create fresh and helpful content by our own.

    Social Media:
    That is the most important way for generating the natural traffic,also good for generating good contacts.The main points for which we should take care are "Highly Relevant Backlinking" and "Naturally Occurring Backlinks".

    Indexation:
    In Indexation is simply related on relevant search engine index.It is nothing but getting optimum pages in whatever the search engine.The variation of ranking is the effect of Indexation.Here are few points for batter indexation:
    Tamplets with fresh navigation
    Rewriting lacklustre titles and meta tags
    Relevant Authority Backlinks

    Crawl Frequency:
    Crawl Frequency is simply refers that how many times(How frequently) the search engine crawel the particular content or the site.As per simple logic of frequency the particular site or content is upgraded,it will crawled more effectively and efficiently.Parameters of links and domain authority also palys important role for frequency...

    Real Time Search:
    Google Real Time search is Google’s relevance technology meeting the real-time web..Real-time search offers not just a stream of data, but an organised stream filtered of spam and other irrelevant information.

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    Quote Originally Posted by TheGooner View Post
    Nice post Gary.


    But I've got to admit that my eyes started to blur a bit as we went down the page.

    Let's pretend that :
    - I don't want to buy links
    - I don't want to clutter unrelated webmaster boards
    - I don't want to run automated CAPCHA beating bots.

    Is there anything practical you suggest for links ?
    Buy related websites (you can typically pick them up cheap)
    Press Releases (both free and paid)
    Contact your vendors for links?
    Write daily content with links back to your site and create a public RSS feed according to #4

    I did a pre4tty extensive article HERE - but keep in mind its nearly 3 years old. 80% still applies.
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    Many many thanks for these valuable SEO tips. I have to go through them once or twice again to get the maximum benefit out of it. BUT... I must say that I didn't like the #3. Although you say that you are not condoning the techniques, but it is still a HOW TO spam, which I regret.

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    3. Blog/Forum Spamming + Creation – I’M GOING TO REITERATE ONCE MORE THAT I DO NOT CONDONE OR ENDORSE THESE PROGRAMS OR TECHNIQUES, BUT KNOWING WHAT YOUR COMPETITION MAY BE DOING MAY HELP TO ANSWER A FEW QUESTIONS FOR YOU.


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    In relation to Number 2 just a quick heads up, i think articlespinner has been discontinued

    Interesting read and look forward to hearing you speak in amsterdam
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    I'm using it now - Sry - its called TheBestSpinner.com
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    Excellent list Gary, as they usually are. I seen that you are willing to answer a few questions and I have a few things to ask about your post. It has to do with the part about buying websites for the purpose of linking to your main website (if I read it right).

    If you buy websites for the purposes of linking back to your main website, don't you have to worry about getting penalized for one reason or another?

    Let's say you had 100 websites that you bought, how would you safely link them to your main website without having to worry about a penalty of some kind from google?

    What would be the proper technique to use if you set up a network of sites for this purpose? Would you use multiple hosting companies? Would you interlink any of the 100 sites between each other or just to the main one?

    Thanks again for the post and any answers you can give me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by smv80 View Post
    Excellent list Gary, as they usually are. I seen that you are willing to answer a few questions and I have a few things to ask about your post. It has to do with the part about buying websites for the purpose of linking to your main website (if I read it right).

    If you buy websites for the purposes of linking back to your main website, don't you have to worry about getting penalized for one reason or another?
    Hi smv80 - and thank for the kudos

    Google has stated buying links may get you penalised not websites. The key is to keep the owners name somewhere in the netsol information and keep it hosted wherever its at. Google is a registrar so they have access to hidden registrant information so that doesn't work.

    Quote Originally Posted by smv80 View Post
    Let's say you had 100 websites that you bought, how would you safely link them to your main website without having to worry about a penalty of some kind from google?
    Alternate anchor text, alternate landing pages and staged integration on the websites. 1 link per site within content - which is why I buy sites that are related so that they have existing content to use for relative anchor text

    Quote Originally Posted by smv80 View Post
    What would be the proper technique to use if you set up a network of sites for this purpose? Would you use multiple hosting companies? Would you interlink any of the 100 sites between each other or just to the main one?
    I would keep them hosted where they are because this is flagged by Google. If this isn't possible the next best option is to host them in the target country.

    We currently have well over 100 hosting companies all over the world to accomodate client targets.

    I wouldn't interlink the sites.
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    Agree with Nandakishore. Pretty sad Gary when your 2nd and 3rd tip is to spam

    I really don't care if you condone it or not - your writing about it and the # of affiliates who think your word is gospel is likely to get them into trouble. If any of those were my sites I'd be pissed that your linking to them as do follow sites. How about listing yours for the taking

    And yes spinning is spamming when you explain it the way you did.

    In short, once setup with basic logins and passwords you can populate your sites with unique content – even if it’s not
    * I would comment on the other tips but when I got to #4 I said forget and didn't read the rest of the article. It very well could have been good but for what it's worth the spam bits totally turned me off from wanting to read the rest. You dont need to take shortcuts or play dirty to obtain strong rankings*
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    Wisdom is the power to put our time and knowledge to the proper use.

    I expected to get flack for this post, I thought I'd made it very clear I do not condone a couple of the new tips - but the need to know what your competition is doing, or even HOW they are doing it, is what will arm you with what you need to overcome their tactics.

    You can find this information anywhere with a bit of homework. As an SEO for 13 years now I have picked up much more information on exploitation, hijacking, cloaking and many others that I do not share, because the average person will not have programming knowledge to exploit them.

    Being that is Google pointing well over 50% of their algo at links and content, being armed with this knowledge is important - and abuse is to be expected.

    Wisdom is the right use of knowledge. To know is not to be wise. Many men know a great deal, and are all the greater fools for it. There is no fool so great a fool as a knowing fool. But to know how to use knowledge is to have wisdom.
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    So to my critics, although I appreciate your feedback and passion for a 'cleaner' and 'innocent' internet, that is never going to happen - especially in this sector. There will always be the individuals that try to exploit everything and anything for personal gain - that's ignorance.

    And there will always be the individuals that run the straight-and-narrow, but they have the knowledge of what their competition is doing and how to combat it as well. If you can identify their 'attack patterns' then you essentially know what they are doing in order to compete with or defeat them.

    I thought I made my position on this very clear;

    I think its important to know what the competition is doing, or if they could possibly be doing something to vindictively harm your rankings, and many of these techniques, used in different fashions, can do just that.

    If this has happened to you I can also (in most cases) show you how to resolve the issue.

    Either way, everything is free (as always) and although I am sure I will take some flack for publishing much of this, it needs to be known as the playing field continues to transition into new playing fields.
    I own an SEO company, speak at most conferences and write many gaming, affiliate and SEO related articles - so obviously my reputation is important to me. If my fellow GPWA members think that the information I've shared should buried - then so be it. I am listening and didn't intend to 'teach' how to integrate BH techniques in your tactics, but how identify them and understand the processes.

    If I could add a vote to this post I would; as I am curious to get other opinions.

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    Gary if you don't condone them why put them in a top 12 seo article. Why not write two articles - the first being what your competitors dont want you to know with a follow up the top 12 seo tips.

    I dont see anything in your post, where you tell people how to manage their sites, how to build them, how to anything that requires onpage. Its all offpage stuff that in some cases could get a noob in trouble. I think you forget there are still a number of people here who don't have the slightest clue about seo and are counting down the days for the tiny toolbar to turn green.
    You have others who are just learning and to turn and say spam forums and blogs for links, auto generate your content - even though you dont condone it - what do you think they will do.

    I dont see anything that says find great links - links that 99% of your competitors cant get and links thats people cant buy. Build a page that receives links from others because that page really does kick ass. Links like that are more valuable than any automated spam filled forum post or blog link.

    So to my critics, although I appreciate your feedback and passion for a 'cleaner' and 'innocent' internet, that is never going to happen - especially in this sector. There will always be the individuals that try to exploit everything and anything for personal gain - that's ignorance.
    Explain how to beat them - not join them.

    Im really not trying to be an ass here - just saying ya know

    I own an SEO company, speak at most conferences and write many gaming, affiliate and SEO related articles - so obviously my reputation is important to me. If my fellow GPWA members think that the information I've shared should buried - then so be it. I am listening and didn't intend to 'teach' how to integrate BH techniques in your tactics, but how identify them and understand the processes.
    Im not speaking for anyone else here - just giving mo - shoot it got me to post again after months. and I dont think it should be burried, I think you need to pick and choose what goes into top whatever lists and how that list will be received by the members. If you post something shady explain why it has the potential to land someone in trouble - like really drive it home. Anyway I do want to thank you for taking the time to write and post the article here.

    Edit - here is an example of what I'm talking about.

    A concise list of SEO black hat tactics

    Another 20 Hardcore SEO Tips

    Instead of mashing up good and bad advice together why not write an article that's specific to one side or the other, as to not influence members based on "Top 12 SEO Tips for 2010"
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    I have to agree with Kaus here, I was super surprised when I was reading the April GPWA Magazine and I have to say I think it and this post are boarderline irresponsible.

    I think a post on real SEO strategy and issues would be a lot more productive than this. Although you say you do not condone some of these tactics, its obvious you use some of these. Example:

    The article spinner - Yeah you can scramble some text and change some word and it may seem original, but this is not even close to the scale of a true original article and won't hold the same value. (you give what spinning software you use)

    The translation "hot tips" is another redflag which you admit to implementing. SEO is about long term results and not "quick tricks and shortcuts".

    Blog and Forum Spamming - You give advice from personal experience on spamming software and post a 100 forums to spam to???? (Seriously, you have a list of 100 Do follow forums and post it so they get spammed? OMG man)

    So again you use this and leave a roadmap to encourage spamming. Prefacing the tip or post with "I don't condone these tactics" and then advising on how to and where to spam to me is doubletalk.

    You mentioned which one you use, so you obviously employ this tactic which is a red flag for someone who "owns" an SEO company.

    An solid SEO strategy should center around onsite factors such as content, format, , page structure, coding, internal linking/navigation, etc. In essence you should have a plan. Only then should you worry about external links and such.

    I will say that what was posted about some of the Google Tools and SEO suite are accurate, those are great.

    I'm not going to go on picking apart your post because you and I both know these are not good tips really. Most of these are shortcuts and short term tactics which goes against the very nature of a solid SEO plan. Kaus covered some other points really well so I won't go on with them, but SEO is more about onsite factors than links, social, etc. Article spinning and spamming have no place in a good strategy IMO. The fact that you obviously use these tactics reduces your credibility IMHO.

    My fear as said above is that newer members will find this post and think these are good tips and that is what SEO is about and many of the things you posted are dangerous and potentially harmful. Again these are things YOU admit to doing! So you could be doing more damage than good.

    I encourage you to give serious thought about posting things like this in the future because it can simply be harmful to members. I would also encourage you to work on a new article which details a Real SEO strategy and not simple tricks and short-cuts that can be harmful.

    Final Note: I know I do not post much here, and I do apologize if I come off too harsh. I have no doubt you have good intentions by posting what you consider good SEO practice, but I think/hope you decide to put up a more useful post on current SEO tactics which can be applied without the risk of hurting a website.
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    My fear as said above is that newer members will find this post and think these are good tips and that is what SEO is about and many of the things you posted are dangerous and potentially harmful. Again these are things YOU admit to doing! So you could be doing more damage than good.
    Thank you Randy! Really I could just be quiet, not post and be done with it because really, the only person w Im hurting is myself by saying don't follow the advice given if you value your websites.

    I really don't care what seo company you work for, what you own or any of that but I do know it doesn't take many links to get a very good ranking - it takes quality and no automated spamming tool is going to give you that EVER.

    The advice given is found on hundreds of spammy seo blogs. Im not discrediting you for posting - I'm just saying if I can find it regurgitated on so many "seo blogs" do you really think those tactics work anymore. Quite possibly they did in 2005 - but I very much doubt they do now and if by chance your still finding success OP - Im curious about the longevity of that success in the serp's - do your rankings hold for 3mths - 6mths or even 18 mths down the road or do you need to keep the process going of spin, spam build due to sites dropping -

    Anyone wondering about forum spamming and blog spamming please read this post by Michael Martinez who is one of the best as far as SEO's go

    A word of caution about link building

    Now in case you only read the first post in that thread, Michael follows up with

    This is not about forum signatures. This is about links where people drop by a site on one occasion and leave a comment with one or more links embedded in the text of their message.
    As for spinners - if your using a spinner as a get it done quick gimmick please stop - while you may be able to generate content faster than most other affiliates your pages will be weak. They wont be able to rank as well as mine - not long term - you wont get as many CTR's as mine - so the end goal is what. A website full of auto generated content for what purpose. (and if you think any credible website would link to a website that's spamming or publishing gibberish your crazy)

    Our goal is to make money. If your content sucks your conversions will suck. I guarantee it

    Unless you have complete idiots for visitors, they will know it's written by someone who obv does not speak english (hence the spinner) and I think that's something Gary missed when he gave those tips - while they may or may not work in the SE's your job doesn't stop with the search engines. Your job is to get the visitor from point a to point b. Publishing content that sounds like a 3rd grader wrote it does not give your site credibility and considering how hard it is to convert a casino player compared to a poker player (never mind other products), you need as much trust and credibility as you can. Put yourself in your visitors shoes - does your article about xyz casino or xxx bonus make you want to whip out that credit card and deposit - or does it sound like someone who is doing whatever they can to get your money.

    Now before someone pipes in and says well I can edit the article. There was a post on Pokeraffiliatelistings a few weeks back with the same argument. I downloaded the software the guy used and gave it a go. It took me longer to correct the errors the spinner made than it would for me to write a whole new article from start to finish. It was complete gibberish what the spinner did. And the bloody time it took to swap out words was ridiculous.

    Its like going to google and using the auto translator - yes it works well when testing new niches in another language - but would you use auto generated stuff for your main sites - the one you value. Of course not. Your visitors would hit the back button. The same applies IMO with spinners.

    This wasnt supposed to be a long post - more to thank Randy but I wanted to give newbs a few things to think about

    Quality links will help you rank better than forum links or spammy blog post links

    Quality content will give you better conversions than any spinner could ever create for you.



    There are tons of shortcuts you can take in this business - but those shortcuts will def impact how well you do and how much money you will make.

    Edit - Just heard this article was published in the GPWA mag -

    Michael - can I give some constructive feedback - maybe get two or three people to work together on articles like this and not just the opinion of one person. It's one thing to read it on the forums - it's totally different when it's published in the mag and I think it can mislead new affiliates into believing what they are reading is true and accurate and could potentially hurt their websites. generally speaking people will use what they like to build websites rather than what's in the best interest of others and there will always be a difference in opinion. Plus it would be a much more interesting read to have three opinions on something - each could state their point etc and disagree or agree with another. Obv would take more time to do and planning but would def be well worth it
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    Well i don't want to get involved in this debate other than to mention one thing,

    I agree with what Kaus says about article spinning

    I tried a couple over the weekend to see what they can and cannot do and they are useless and i certainly wont use one for my websites.

    You will have to edit be assured of that, they take one sentence and move it somewhere else and then you do indeed get an article that is gibberish.

    In the end it takes more time than just sitting down and writing your own.

    Nothing against Gary at all, like i say won't get involved in this, but just wanted to give some feedback re article spinning.
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