Steven assaulted at cap!

**Notspot** · 30 January 2009, 12:58 pm

Can anyone there in person confirm this?

http://www.pokeraffiliatelistings.co...-cap-euro.html

Sorry it wasn't Michael it was Steven - could a mod change the title please?

**AceHigh Pino** · 30 January 2009, 12:59 pm

Seriously inquisitive and nosy minds need to know this stuff

**Caruso** · 30 January 2009, 1:24 pm

What relation is this Steven?

**ck8795** · 30 January 2009, 1:28 pm

Michaels son aka CityGuard

**Anthony** · 30 January 2009, 1:51 pm

It is my understanding JTodd was threatened not Michael.
I got off the phone with JTodd and he said, Lou asked him to step outside to "settle this like men". Todd asked Lou if he was sure about it and Lou said lets go, so they start walking to the door. An affiliate manager got in front of them and told Todd it was not a good idea and Todd agreed. Lou however did not, it took a while to calm Lou down.

Steven was escorted out of the event, then out of the Hotel.

**mojo** · 30 January 2009, 2:04 pm

Originally Posted by APCW Anthony

It is my understanding JTodd was threatened not Michael.
I got off the phone with JTodd and he said, Lou asked him to step outside to "settle this like men". Todd asked Lou if he was sure about it and Lou said lets go, so they start walking to the door. An affiliate manager got in front of them and told Todd it was not a good idea and Todd agreed. Lou however did not, it took a couple of people to calm Lou down. Warren showed up and told Todd he would never threaten him and shook Todd's hand.

Steven was escorted out of the event, then out of the Hotel.

Is Steven and everyone else physically ok Anthony?

**Anthony** · 30 January 2009, 2:07 pm

My understanding, security was kind of rough with Steven.

No punches were thrown between Lou and JTodd.

**Caruso** · 30 January 2009, 2:09 pm

What happened to Lou's heart condition? Can it be turned on and off as required?

What is there to "settle"? The facts about Cardspike / Absolute Slots will not change. And how would a street brawl "settle" anything, anyway?

**casinobonusguy** · 30 January 2009, 2:10 pm

If this is true ,I wonder where Lou gets off thinking he owns the hotel lobby.And i guess he made full recovery to want to get into a fist fight ,that's not a man that's an asshole!

**mojo** · 30 January 2009, 2:15 pm

If this is confirmed, and I have no reason not to believe it will not be with all of the EYE witnesses, it is time to step up. Affiliate programs and affiliates both. Enough abuse from CAP! This is the last straw.

**republican** · 30 January 2009, 2:29 pm

Steven was taken out of the show with quite a bit of physical force. He was removed by force against his will and that is abuse. Casino companies can choose who they pay money too even if it is CAP. But when people are challenged to fight and also are handled like animals publicly then I have to say we as affiliates and operators STOP this at once.

Abuse refers to the use or treatment of something (a person, item, substance, concept, or vocabulary) that is harmful. It can be classed by the target of abuse or the type of abuse.

**Paolino** · 30 January 2009, 2:37 pm

I have changed the title as your request. I won't comment about this, I'm speechless and my solidarity goes to Steven.

Originally Posted by Notspot

Can anyone there in person confirm this?

http://www.pokeraffiliatelistings.co...-cap-euro.html

Sorry it wasn't Michael it was Stephen - could a mod change the title please?

**TheGamblingGuru** · 30 January 2009, 3:03 pm

It still, to this day just absolutely blows me away that the casino affiliate programs pay Cap anything at all, I just don't see it...I mean what are the programs actually gaining that they could not gain on their own anyway?

I became an affiliate of all of the casinos that I promote by knowing the casinos and playing at them first and actually putting in some test time there...so someone please fill me in here on what experience and benefits does Cap actually sell to the affiliate programs?? Am I missing something here ?

Hell, I've been playing online casinos ever since 1996 when Intercasino first went live...maybe I should make up a "Badge Banner" and start selling it to the programs, I've got purdy damn good name recognition in the industry so why not? Someone tell me why I should not do this and take most of Caps customers away from them...lol

**mojo** · 30 January 2009, 3:26 pm

The first of probably many..

http://www.gambling911.com/gambling-...wl-013009.html

**arkyt** · 30 January 2009, 3:56 pm

Originally Posted by APCW Anthony

It is my understanding JTodd was threatened not Michael.
I got off the phone with JTodd and he said, Lou asked him to step outside to "settle this like men". Todd asked Lou if he was sure about it and Lou said lets go, so they start walking to the door. An affiliate manager got in front of them and told Todd it was not a good idea and Todd agreed. Lou however did not, it took a couple of people to calm Lou down. Warren showed up and told Todd he would never threaten him and shook Todd's hand.

Steven was escorted out of the event, then out of the Hotel.

OMFG - ala' Mafia style - this is CRAZY!

Originally Posted by mojo

If this is confirmed, and I have no reason not to believe it will not be with all of the EYE witnesses, it is time to step up. Affiliate programs and affiliates both. Enough abuse from CAP! This is the last straw.

100% agree - its time for programs supporting CAP to walk! I will seriously consider removing links of programs which choose to support that shop!

**GFPC** · 30 January 2009, 3:58 pm

Something i posted at PAL.

This is a great time to have a mediator really step in and offer a peace accord.

I think we need to find someone independent who has no relationship with either side and have a sit down between all the parties involved.

All of this should be done behind closed doors with written agreements from all parties that no abusive behaviour will happen.

Some form of resolution needs to happen here. There is no need for them to work together but for the respect of the industry and us affiliates who generate their income with our traffic I think we are owed this.

For the betterment of this industry and to keep things in good spirits a sit down should happen. Nothing should publicly be posted until the sit down is complete.

Its time to show the gambling affiliate world that despite differences we can still act like peaceful human beings.

Steve

**casinoranking** · 30 January 2009, 4:04 pm

Wasn't there and I think this is an unfortunate event. I am not judging anyone... but if Lou has a health/heart condition it could be induced and made worse by stress.

So saying what happened to his health condition because of this brawl is sort of an ignorant statement. (as in implying he has none)

Regardless I hope that everyone is all right and that no one got in trouble with the authorities.

**TheGamblingGuru** · 30 January 2009, 4:11 pm

Well this $hit is really getting interesting now, Over at my Website Blog I just received this little comment left by Anonymous!! LOL

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Anonymous has left a new comment on your post "Traveling and Gambling":
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You better not say anything else negative about CAP if you want to keep playing at ANY online casinos. This is a promise!
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Publish this comment.
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Reject this comment.
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Moderate comments for this blog.
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Posted by Anonymous to The Gambling Guru's Blog at January 30, 2009 4:28 PM

Now my question to myself is should I...
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1. Publish It
2. Reject It or
3. Moderate It
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Now this clearly sounds like a threat to me, maybe Lou wants to ask me to step outside with him too, not even man enough to leave his name with the comment, had to do it Anonymously...jeeze..

Didn’t realize I was that popular…

**pgaming** · 30 January 2009, 4:25 pm

This is MADNESS

and very shocking. Finally the true colours are vibrantly showing through.

Some sort of apology may help.

Wow quite the blog spam GamblingGuru!

JMO

greek39

**Topboss** · 30 January 2009, 4:35 pm

What really bothers me about this whole fiasco is the fact there are quite a few webmasters here, ( including myself ) who are CAP members and GPWA members. I want to make it quite clear that despite being a CAP member - I am disgusted by what happened in London and at this point I am embarressed to admit that I am a member of CAP.
This is the sort of behaviour I witnessed in my school days

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