Paddy Power

[Bear]

Does anybody have problems with Paddy Power Partners?

I brought in a player to them through my link who deposited £2500. This showed up as a deposit, but I had no earnings. I contacted them and this was the reply I got:

Hi Martin,

The reason why you have not earned money for that player thus far is because they signed up as a Paddy Power Casino customer but actually played on Paddy Power Games. We do not offer cross-channel commission to affiliates as standard, but may consider doing so on a case-by-case basis if we can see that they are sending us good traffic. Please also note that we do not charge for any negative earnings as a number of other affiliate programs do.

What I would say to you as a relatively new affiliate (at least to our program) is just to concentrate on building up the volume of traffic to start with, and your commission total will soon start to build. If you can generate 20 or 30 accounts like that one in the next couple of months, we’ll be happy to reward you with cross-product commission.

Best wishes,

Mark

What a bunch of crap. They could say this to anybody, "oh yes he did deposit through your games link, but played on casino" etc.

As far as I am concerned that is my player through my link and I should be entitled to those earnings. They would not have had that plyer if he had not gone through my link.

Any comments would be apreciated.

Thank you

[brean78]

I believe you have already raised this at CAP. The problem as mentioned at CAP is that you havent set up cross-product commission and have therefore not been awarded the revenue from this player. It is a bitter pill to swallow, but it is up to you to make this arrangement, unless it clearly states in the t & c's that it is automatic.

My recommendation to you is to not keep bringing this up in the forums, but to talk to PP's affiliate team direct and see if you can negotiate something with them. Good luck.

[Bear]

Thanks for the reply, but do you work for Paddy Power. My point is that they could manufacture figures to suit every occasion by saying to affiliate A that the deposit was with casino and played on games, to Affiliate B they could say deposited on games and played on casino etc etc.

If you think that affiliate programs are beyond this then you are misguided. I will continue to post this to warn other affiliates who may not be members over at CAP or anywhere else.

[Chalkie]

It may well have been brought up elsewhere, however, when you feel cheated then you are entitled to post wherever you feel fit, even if it justs helps another person not to fall in to the same trap.

Looking at what has been sais i think this stinks!

PP agree that you sent the player who deposited but will no pay you for his games play.

Come on PP play the game, the guy got you the player, pay the man!

[Chalkie]

Hey Bear,

I just noticed where you are from! Small world hey!

Hoping you are not a Wolves fan mind you!

[Bear]

No I am a season ticket holder at Birmingham City

[Pam712]

Brean - it is people posting on affiliate forums which helps to bring these matters to the attention of the affiliates. Some people may not visit CAP and may not be aware of the issue....

[brean78]

Fair enough. I thought you were hoping to get some money back. I didn't realise it was more to warn other affiliates.

I don't work for PP, but have had success in the past by talking to them about money matters.

[universal4]

When you go to their site, the visitor sees sportsbook, casino, betting and games.

As an affiliate we agree to market a website where we earn commissions from customers of said website.

Well, unless the terms and conditions specifically state that commissions are NOT paid on other games, then I would think affiliates would normally assume that commissions were paid on all products.

I am glad this was brought up here, as I would not even consider joining this program now.

Rick
Universal4

[Chalkie]

Extract from their T & c's

4.2 Subject to your complying with Paddy Power's instructions with regard to tracking customers accessing the Paddy Power Sites via the Links on your Site, Paddy Power shall use all reasonable endeavours to ensure that whenever a customer links to the Paddy Power Sites through these Links and they subsequently place a bet or otherwise transact with Paddy Power, the relevant customer is identified as originating from your Site. However, Paddy Power shall not be liable to you in any way if Paddy Power is unable to identify a customer as originating from your Site.

This appears to say that if you refer the player they will pay you for any transaction that customer makes.

On further inspection of their terms there is no mention whatsoever that

We do not offer cross-channel commission to affiliates as standard

Bear, i would be asking them to show you where, in their t & c's, they say anything that pertains to what they are actually saying in their email response to you.

[universal4]

Good catch Paul

And....they have already admitted that the player came from his link....so they should pay.

Rick
Universal4

[Bear]

Thank you for that Chalkie

I am getting on to them now.

[GCG]

paddypower should pay without the referral they would not have the 2500 in deposits.

programs with multi gaming options should track any player regardless what game he wants to play, any other option is pure theft or a bad business model.

Never will join bad business models.

[ALEX777]

paddypower should pay without the referral they would not have the 2500 in deposits.

programs with multi gaming options should track any player regardless what game he wants to play, any other option is pure theft or a bad business model.

Never will join bad business models.

Yup, you'r right ...... that's why I've not joined BTW

[Topboss]

I agree that Paddy Power should cough up. As GCG mentioned - If it wasn't for Bear's referral they would never have got the $2500 in deposits.
The fact is that Bear referred the player - regardless of where they actually played.

[offyourface]

This is such a load of garbage and the reason why I don't work with them either. I wrote reviews and everything and was ready to rock n roll, but then noticed a thread a few months back where someone said you need to ask for the cross channel commissions and that left a bad taste in my mouth, even though I feel like I would have no problem getting them to agree on this for me.

It's akin to buying a hotdog and being required to ask for the bun so you can eat the damn thing. If programs make money off our traffic, we should earn money on that traffic by default, end of story. Having to ask for cross channel commissions just seems a little underhanded to me. Just my opinion.

[buyonaut]

This is from FAQ section of Paddy's affiliate site;




"The Paddy Power affiliate programme allows you to make money from promoting our product/s on your website. Every referrred customer that goes on to place money on the product/s you have advertised, leaving behind a profit, earns you money.


When you become a Paddy Power affiliate you are assigned a unique affiliate ID. This allows us to track every user who registers with Paddy Power and places money on our product/s from your site. When you select media from our Advert Gallery, your relevant ID will be built into the code, allowing us to track all of your customers who click on it."



From this, I would presume PP is cross selling platform program. Or not?

[ALEX777]

From this, I would presume PP is cross selling platform program. Or not?

Yes and no Another "NLP" marketing trick. the companies like Paddy Power have a like "Peace and War" T&C.

[CasinoRumble]

I play myself in PaddyPower, and had problems myself doing cashouts, I dont trust them, thats why I dont want to play there..

[GFPC]

And like other programs recently they see the heat and remain silent.

One post to the poor affiliate and then gone.

For god sakes what is going in this industry. Why is it that so many programs are totally disregarding paying affiliates.

This is getting unreal.

I totally like "Offyourfaces" Reply...

Buying a hotdog with no bun!!! LOL so true man!!!

PAY THE MAN HIS MONEY " as KGB said in Rounders"

And if you refuse to pay him, please post here so we know you publicly refuse and for all to see.

Steve