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[GFPC]

Thanks Steve, today I've spend all day that to make this page. I was going to do that several months ago, but thanks to lots0 I've found this time immediately. I hope nobody is angry at me now.

You are most welcome. May i make a suggestion?? You list FutureBet!!

Future Bet can be also called IGS as well. What i would do if i were you is add every site that is sub licensed under them.

Players need to know to stay away from sites that in business with Future Bet/IGS and any new names they may operate under.

If you PM me i can get you a list of sites, and also share with you some troubling stuff about one particular casino/pokerroom that right now is holding players cashouts and affilaite payments..

Let me know via PM and i will ge tyou all the info on it!!! It will make your list a bit more comprehensive and make our players and affiliates more safe.

Steve

[Nandakishore]

Since the (gentle)man lots0 seems to be very conscious about copying and spamming, I did some random copyscaping on his website xxxhttp://casino-directory.lots0cash.com/.

My results:

The page http://casino-directory.lots0cash.com/blackjack brought 19 results of the type:

"Find a table whose minimum is no more than 5% of you total stash. In picking a table, consider rule variations that help the player like the option of doubling down on any two cards, or the dealer having to stand on soft 17. Even if you don't completely understand them, these rule variations can work to your advantage."

from http://www.freeblackjacktips.com/blackjack_tips.html


The page http://casino-directory.lots0cash.com/casino_tips/ brought 3 results of the type:

"Essential mathematics on probability, odds, formulae, software calculation and calculators for many games of chance"
from http://www.swissbankcasino.com/5/cal...s-in-keno.html

[giggles7p]

Roflmaoooooo!

[vmlinuz]

This will probably be my last post in this thread. Lots0 has a personal issue with aksana, all his accusations are insane as far as I can see. There's simply no point of continuing this. He'll always find new reasons, such as "words" stolen from any other site...
Pointless

[vmlinuz]

Just one last thing. Lots0, you also have a blacklist. Seems that you have some casinos/poker sites on your list that are the same as casinomeisters. How about that? Can people call you a thief from now on?

[Chalkie]

O dear

Man who stands in glass tower ...

[CityGuard]

The conversation here is on a topic that calls up deeply held beliefs. Because of this I want to ask that before clicking "submit post" everyone go through a simply checklist.


A) Does my comment help to educate some members who may not understand certain aspects of the issues?
B) Is my post written in a manner that would seeks to reduce the level of frustration experienced by readers with passionate disagreement to the point I am raising?
C) Does my comment help move toward a resolution of the issue I am concerned about?
D) How does this fit into my goals for the type of community and industry I would like to be involved in?

Or, ultimately, E) Can I feel that my comments made the greatest contribution possible with the information I have available?


My comment here is sparked by a couple of the posts thus far but mostly by a recognition that it can be helpful to take a moment to consider different knowledge levels and communication styles when talking about things we care deeply about.

[lots0]

Since the (gentle)man lots0 seems to be very conscious about copying and spamming, I did some random copyscaping on his website xxxhttp://casino-directory.lots0cash.com/.

My results:

The page http://casino-directory.lots0cash.com/blackjack brought 19 results of the type:

"Find a table whose minimum is no more than 5% of you total stash. In picking a table, consider rule variations that help the player like the option of doubling down on any two cards, or the dealer having to stand on soft 17. Even if you don't completely understand them, these rule variations can work to your advantage."

from http://www.freeblackjacktips.com/blackjack_tips.html


The page http://casino-directory.lots0cash.com/casino_tips/ brought 3 results of the type:

"Essential mathematics on probability, odds, formulae, software calculation and calculators for many games of chance"
from http://www.swissbankcasino.com/5/cal...s-in-keno.html

LOL... are you really that uneducated? That site is a Directory (you do know what a Directory is right?) FYI - site owners submit their own descriptions or we use meta data/original content (you do know what meta data is don't you?) and RSS feeds...

****

Ya it's all better now... the lonely girl affiliate has 'fixed' or should I say covered up her theft..

You know what I really find funny is that some of the same folks that were vigorously defending and even part of the Crap at Cap, coming to the defense of yet another obvious thief...

Oh to the person that said I had a "personal" issue with this group of Russian spammers... I don't, But I do have a problem with any group or individual that threatens my industry and my earnings.

[GFPC]

You make a good point City Guard. Excellent post thank you.

Everyone learns from their mistakes and I believe Askana made an honest error. She was wonderful to correct it and admit her wrong doing.

We should praise her for being very responsible for doing that..

Of course this is a very good thread as it will really help others, when they decide to post direct information from another site.

Good discussion everyone!!! Your all awesome!!!

The conversation here is on a topic that calls up deeply held beliefs. Because of this I want to ask that before clicking "submit post" everyone go through a simply checklist.


A) Does my comment help to educate some members who may not understand certain aspects of the issues?
B) Is my post written in a manner that would seeks to reduce the level of frustration experienced by readers with passionate disagreement to the point I am raising?
C) Does my comment help move toward a resolution of the issue I am concerned about?
D) How does this fit into my goals for the type of community and industry I would like to be involved in?

Or, ultimately, E) Can I feel that my comments made the greatest contribution possible with the information I have available?


My comment here is sparked by a couple of the posts thus far but mostly by a recognition that it can be helpful to take a moment to consider different knowledge levels and communication styles when talking about things we care deeply about.

[aksana]

Can you drop me a link to that page?

I was thinking about linking to his list somehow also so I wouldn't mind seeing how you did it so I could get some ideas....

Rick
Universal4

Hi Rick, here is my page http://www.777-online-gambling.net/w...isted-casinos/ .

[aksana]

LOL... are you really that uneducated? That site is a Directory (you do know what a Directory is right?) FYI - site owners submit their own descriptions or we use meta data/original content (you do know what meta data is don't you?) and RSS feeds...

****

Ya it's all better now... the lonely girl affiliate has 'fixed' or should I say covered up her theft..

You know what I really find funny is that some of the same folks that were vigorously defending and even part of the Crap at Cap, coming to the defense of yet another obvious thief...

Oh to the person that said I had a "personal" issue with this group of Russian spammers... I don't, But I do have a problem with any group or individual that threatens my industry and my earnings.

You again say that I'm a "group of Russian spammers". Ok, I agree that I took a list of rogue casinos from CM, but I have already apologized for that, and Bryan has forgiven me, but I do not agree that I'm a spammer. And you even don't have any real proofes.

Ok, another question: what do have bad against Russians? Is it so important for you? I have some ideas why you don't like Russians, but it's not a place for such discussions. Moreover I'm not Russian, yes, my grandmother is Russian and my mother could be Russian, but unfortunately I'm not Russian, I'd like to be.

[Nandakishore]

LOL... are you really that uneducated? That site is a Directory (you do know what a Directory is right?) FYI - site owners submit their own descriptions or we use meta data/original content (you do know what meta data is don't you?) and RSS feeds...

If your site is a directory, then you are also responsible for its contents. If another person provides contents for your site by copying another site, then you are responsible for that content.

The content


"Find a table whose minimum is no more than 5% of you total stash. In picking a table, consider rule variations that help the player like the option of doubling down on any two cards, or the dealer having to stand on soft 17. Even if you don't completely understand them, these rule variations can work to your advantage."

was traced back by Copyscape to

from http://www.freeblackjacktips.com/blackjack_tips.html

There is no reference to this site on your page. So I consider the content on your page as a copy.

[Nandakishore]

The conversation here is on a topic that calls up deeply held beliefs. Because of this I want to ask that before clicking "submit post" everyone go through a simply checklist.


A) Does my comment help to educate some members who may not understand certain aspects of the issues?
B) Is my post written in a manner that would seeks to reduce the level of frustration experienced by readers with passionate disagreement to the point I am raising?
C) Does my comment help move toward a resolution of the issue I am concerned about?
D) How does this fit into my goals for the type of community and industry I would like to be involved in?

Or, ultimately, E) Can I feel that my comments made the greatest contribution possible with the information I have available?


My comment here is sparked by a couple of the posts thus far but mostly by a recognition that it can be helpful to take a moment to consider different knowledge levels and communication styles when talking about things we care deeply about.

I want to add
F) Must I not act when one member of the community is attacked by another openly in a vile, partly racial language?

[aksana]

I want to add
F) Must I not act when one member of the community is attacked by another openly in a vile, partly racial language?

Thank you Nandakishore for such input. I agree with you 100%. I didn't know how to tell that. "Russian spammer", "poor Russian girl", "lonely girl" is very offensive, and even I'm not a spammer. Lots0 didn't show any real proves. I'm not poor and I'm not lonely! I have a husband, who would beat anybody for such words. He doesn't know about these attacks, because I tried to not focus my attention on these words. We don't say "English spammer", we don't say "American spammer", "German spammer", "Serbian spammer", "Bulgarian spammer" and etc. No matter who you are.

[Paolino]

At this point of the discussion I can only think that l0ts has probably found a group of some russian black hatters, but he's targetting the wrong person, this is the only explaination I have. Aksana is truly a genuine person, and she showed it by admitting the little mistake she made when she published the list on her site. I don't see any other issues with her site.

[Chalkie]

Having read what Steven has written below i feel somewhat guilty in all honesty.

I have made a couple of low blows to Lotso during this thread but only in retaliation for the nasty and offensive comments and yes racial comments that he made. I was i suppose originally more interested in defending my friend than taking any interest in the problem that was being raised. Although in a lot of my posts i did leave my comments open to interpretation and offer a little amount of courtesy to lotsos claims too.

I suppose that the thread has in some way been rather unprofessional and diverted from the main principals of most GPWA members, i am one of those that has contributed to this fact and for that i apologise.

Most here have openly looked for fault with lotso rather than to the problems that he has brought up (myself included), which is i suppose wrong, although i am sure that some people have done the opposite without making a comment.

I think this thread only goes to prove that accusations like these should be made in private after discussions with a guilty party have failed to reach an agreement or solution. I think it also proves that if openly making accusations, the last thing that you should do is start throwing insults around too.

Because of the nature of the thread from the very beginning i believe we can all be allowed a little slack but take the experience we have gleaned from this very thread to make us a little different in the future maybe.

[aksana]

Guys, can you try to view my source code in your browsers? I can view my source code in all my browsers. But Dominique told me that she couldn't, she thought that it was a copyscape protection. But I don't have any copyscape protections. Many thanks for your help, guys!

[lots0]

Aksana is truly a genuine person, and she showed it by admitting the little mistake she made when she published the list on her site.

So you have met her in person? I doubt it.

Hey if I am wrong... One of you that has met this person face to face speak up...

As to the issue of race... The Russians are one of the largest groups of spammers and have organized into large gangs...
http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned...ian+spam+gangs
I believe that this 'lonely girl' is a front for one of these.

And... ya I(and the US news media) do say "American Spammer", "Chinese Spammer" etc.... Helps to identify where the spam/attacks are coming from.

BTW - "lonely girl" is not a racial slur. What it is, is calling a con a con.


To those of you that think I am 'barking up the wrong tree' or on the trail of the wrong people.
Most of you know me from the Absolute Poker and CAP problems and most of you know I am out spoken, but I am honest and I'm not usually wrong about these things. I don't think I'm wrong about this. There is a lot of other evidence as well, but it is not proof, so I am not posting it in public.

As to the issue of copyright on my site... When/if a site owner contacts me with copyright concerns it will be addressed per the DMCA. Are you the site owner? If so please contact me through my site.

To the person that says this should be handled in private... Obviously you don't have much experience with these issues. I been there, done that, several times... I been doing this for over 12 years and I can tell you from experience it is a waste of time to try to contact hackers/spammers to tell them they are being bad and they should stop...

And don't feel too bad cuz you were taken in... the first "lonely girl" on utube had millions of 'friends' that just couldn't believe she was a phony, some of them even jumped to her defense... at first.

[lots0]

Guys, can you try to view my source code in your browsers? I can view my source code in all my browsers. But Dominique told me that she couldn't, she thought that it was a copyscape protection. But I don't have any copyscape protections. Many thanks for your help, guys!

ROTFLMAO....

So you just pulled the javascript cloaking off the site and now everyone can see your source...

And you didn't know anything about it...

Dom and others can vouch that yesterday the source for the this site was behind a 'cloaking' script.

Just how stupid do you think we are?

But I don't have any copyscape protections.

So the protected by Copyscape button on your site is bogus? I suppose you dont know how that happened either.

[Chips]

Guys, can you try to view my source code in your browsers? I can view my source code in all my browsers. But Dominique told me that she couldn't, she thought that it was a copyscape protection. But I don't have any copyscape protections. Many thanks for your help, guys!

Hi Aksana, no the source code can not be view by me either in Fox or IE. Thanks for the link back on the IGS/FB blacklist. Always glad to have a link from a quality site.

I like the page by the way. Perhaps a search feature would help the visitor too, although many people would spell the site wrong... we don't want them to leave thinking they are safe when a site is there but they typed the name in wrong. Might be something to play with.